jnwilliams
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I have the 4.5" pockets on my new professional, and it plays MUCH easier than my 8' Olhausen with 4 5/8" pockets.
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Yes, a professional table mechanic did my GCIV.
And nope, I don't know that. Sounds like your opinion. I respect your opinion but others have different opinions.
See the above post from jnwilliams.
r/DCP
If you decide to go 4.75" pockets, your wait jumps from 6 months to 18-24 months.
The assemblers look at the work order and go GTFOH!
boogieman
It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that ping.
The Diamond plays easier than the Olhausen because of Olhausen's well known bad pocket geometry. A 4.5" Diamond will most likely play better and more fairly than an Olhausen with even 5" pockets. Olhausen rattle. I have a thread on here about fixing mine. It was a real chore but it's doable if you're somewhat handy and have the correct tools.
It's not really directly related to pocket size, the Olhausen pockets are splayed open so any ball hit over medium speed will rattle out unless you play them from where the point the facing meets the slate cutout or further into the pocket. Without putting too find a point on it, stock Olhausen pocket geometry is shit. They are decently built tables other than the pocket geometry.
Dymondwood was butt ugly imo. The new black material they have been using the past 5 or so years looks way better. (NOT the very first material after the Dymondwood factory burned down). I've been around a lot of those newer tables in commercial rooms, and have yet to see a single ding/scratch/blemish on any of those rails. Whatever that material is, its just as good as the Dymondwood was for durability.
DCP: you are going to hang up a ton of balls on the Diamond that will leave you scratching your head it didn't fall. The shelf is significantly deeper than a GC.
The only thing that might save you is you change the cloth more often than just about anyone else, so you will have the benefit of new cloth slide during much of the cloth's lifespan.
The only thing that might save you is you change the cloth more often than just about anyone else, so you will have the benefit of new cloth slide during much of the cloth's lifespan.
All that said, I do think it's a good idea to get the Diamond for you. Its nice to have a change and something new and shiny.
Oh, you'll need a ball cleaner too. The brand new ones still mark up the balls with their pocket dye. Not as bad as before, but you'll see it, especially on the light colored balls.
Oh, you'll need a ball cleaner too. The brand new ones still mark up the balls with their pocket dye. Not as bad as before, but you'll see it, especially on the light colored balls.
Buy one used. I see them on the market all the time. Nothing wrong with a five or even ten year old Diamond. I had my older Diamond Pro-Am converted from red label to blue label rails.
Do what ever you want .. it’s your money but if your going to get bucket pockets you might as well save your cash and buy a valley lol
you can buy a used one easy.. the apa has plenty of their used tables for sale after nationals and that’s what they use
I’ve had and olhausen and still play on one at a friends house and your not completely wrong. I think they play way to easy and can easily string racks BUT yes shoot everything at medium speed and it drops right in those buckets but as soon as you add any speed if it doesn’t go in completely clean it spits it back out. They make a great piece of furniture but the pockets are just cut strange
I thought APA Nationals were only played on 7'ers.
You should prolly look into a free trial period while you're at it.
Honestly, I might argue the gc done by a pro is a more desirable table.
I know you enter into dialogue here and I feel you are looking for support for your position, not actual discourse. That's fine.
A change might be a pleasant experience for your pool life and imo, how well you play really doesn't impact enjoyment when youre at home. You can run .5 racks or 1.5 and at the end of the day, the experiences are virtually identical.
Now...you gonna buy my 9' blue label with the diamond polisher included or what?!
jnwilliams
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Thanks for that. Very familiar with the rattle, as I have said a few bad words over it the past couple of years. Actually, except for the "rattle", I loved everything about that Olhausen. Played great. BUt man this diamond plays so much better running one down the rail.
Are you going back to a GC or quitting home tables?...snip...
Now...you gonna buy my 9' blue label with the diamond polisher included or what?!
One comment about delivery time, from what I have read on the forum over the years, Diamond's estimates are more like "cue-maker time". Use that info as you will.
I've watched a lot of pool being played on Diamond tables. And from what I have seen the balls will wipe their feet and go in about the way one might expect. And yes, some times they were playing on new cloth and getting the slide effect. But other times it was not.
Either way, this new Diamond Professional can't play any worse than the Gold Crown IV that I have.
Besides, I've got to spend my $$$ on something. Can't just let it sit there.
Will you move into one of the rental properties if it becomes vacant? A table on the first floor instead of the basement will immediately improve your humidity issue.
Rebuild/restore the IV.
I own the rental property. It's a 3-car garage with a 1,000 sq ft living quarters above it. I do NOT rent it anymore. Renters are a royal pain. Three of the last four the police got involved, damage was done, and one renter got thrown in jail and then later killed in a car wreck running from the police. NO MORE RENTERS for me!
Currently the neighbors rent the entire place for storage only. After the first of the year, however, I am going to take the upstairs apartment back over again and put the Diamond Professional table up there. I believe my renters will still rent the garage stalls for storage and cars, however.
Here is a pic of the rental property. My red brick house is right next to it, about 30 feet away.
Oh, and in case anyone is wondering.......where the Diamond table will sit there are seven (7) extra floor joists underneath.
