Does anyone know of any good videos that will really help me with the diamond system? also is the advanced pro book any good i want to rise my game to the next level.
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juniorchamp_ktm said:
Two videos i wished i had watched years ago....
Kicks only by Graddy Mathews( some of it you need to be advanced to follow though)
and FAST EDDIE.....there is a couple but the one im talking about is abour 2.5 hours long
good luck to you
juniorchamp_ktm said:
There is a set of posts made here on AZ by DeadAim all named "Kicking Academy" . These contain several diamond systems and some wonderful insights into kicking in general. Use the 'search' function to find them, or go to the Members List, find DeadAim, then show all threads started by DeadAim. Here is a sample (there are 9 Kicking Academy threads iirc) :
http://www.azbilliards.com/vbulletin/upload/showthread.php?t=9115
I am a big fan of Bob Hennings book "The Pro Book", but have not read the "Advanced" version.
Rumor has it that Gradys video on kicking is excellent, and it is available at Bobs web site :
http://www.bebobpublishing.com/mainindex.htm
Dave
Donald Duck in Mathmagic Land has an interesting little blurb on the Diamond system.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0052751/
Years ago I heard that Willie Hoppe playing billiards was the template that Donald’s cartoon was drawn over for the Billiard scene. Same principal as in FlashDuck.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0052751/
Years ago I heard that Willie Hoppe playing billiards was the template that Donald’s cartoon was drawn over for the Billiard scene. Same principal as in FlashDuck.
"Science of Pocket Billiards" by Kohler is the best info I have found thus far.
Google is your friend.... Here are a couple more links.
http://www3.sympatico.ca/eric.perreault/diamond_system_en.html
http://www.jimloy.com/billiard/kick1.htm
-djb
http://www3.sympatico.ca/eric.perreault/diamond_system_en.html
http://www.jimloy.com/billiard/kick1.htm
-djb
juniorchamp_ktm said:
Wow, now this is a long awaited topic. I do not know how long you have been playing, but I would suggest that you spend a little time on a 3 cushion table. Nothing like real-time learning. Kicking is a beautiful part of billiards and defensive kicking is supreme.
Books are fine, but working and learning with a 3 cushion player will put you way ahead of reading books and studying internet sites fast. Why? Because you are experiencing it and testing it, and stroke changes everything. You'll first learn some pretty basic shots that you can then turn into a host of many shots. Later you'll extend to advanced shots and that's even more shots. Soon no one will ever bury you and they will cringe with not hopes of getting ball in hand but rather what they will be left with to shot at.
Kicking Academy in Word doc
For your convenience, all the relevant posts from the series are attached as a word document.
I hope J.R. doesn't mind. If he does I'll take it down.
29 Pages of great diamond systems info!
Go HERE to download the word document.
It will only be available for a week....then Yousendit.com removes the file.
For your convenience, all the relevant posts from the series are attached as a word document.
I hope J.R. doesn't mind. If he does I'll take it down.
29 Pages of great diamond systems info!
Go HERE to download the word document.
It will only be available for a week....then Yousendit.com removes the file.
There are many diamond systems. The corner-five, the plus-two, system Sid, the equal angle/mirror, Shepard's true mirror, the various spot-on-the-wall systems, the opposite-three (which has to be corrected for pool tables), and great steaming piles of other systems.juniorchamp_ktm said:
If you can, find someone to show them to you. I don't think videos are enough.
Colin Colenso said:
Hi Colin,
No problem, that is what I posted them for; to educate players who have lacked the kicking skills needed in 9 Ball. Twenty-Nine pages!!! I didn't realized it was that much.
Bob’s right, so many systems; so many numbers to remember. I can’t remember how many systems I mentioned but it was only a rain drop in the ocean compared to the various systems out there for “3 Cushion Billiards”
KTM,
These systems are like a road map to get you from LA to New York, a basic idea of where you are going; you still need to know how to find the particular street you are going to.
TRY THIS: Knowing where the pocket is, good for two rail kicks. No numbers or systems to remember.
Stand in front of a corner pocket; anyone, it does not matter.
Place the cue ball at the first diamond to your right
Shoot the cue ball at the first diamond to the right of the diagonal corner pocket with no english
Cue should head toward side pocket; remember, speed is important. Not to hard not too soft, just right; my friend Goldie thought me that.
Now you know where the pocket is, from here you just have to adjust the hit point from wherever the cue ball lies.
NOW, try it from a side pocket.
Kick two rails around a corner pocket and it should head towards the opposite diagonal corner pocket; again, adjust and experiment.
After about 10 to 20 thousand shots you’ll be kicking like Efren.
JR
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bump........
On the broken links, take the last numbers and copy/paste them in your url where you see some other numbers.
Hope that made sense.
Here is one example:
Change
http://www.azbilliards.com/vbulletin/upload/showthread.php?t=9146
to this
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=9146
Hope that made sense.
Here is one example:
Change
http://www.azbilliards.com/vbulletin/upload/showthread.php?t=9146
to this
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=9146
Links and Word Doc of Deadaim's Kicking Academy
Introduction: http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=9114
Part 1: http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=9115
Part 2: http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=9121
Part 3: http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=9146
Part 4: http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=9148
Part 5: http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=9150
Part 6: http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=9166
Part 7: http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=9167
Part 8: http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=9168
Conclusion: http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=9170
Here is the download location for the Word Doc with all the posts and diagrams:
http://download.yousendit.com/9FEE9837326BC7FE
This will only be available for 7 days. Could someone host it on their website so it is available permanantly?
Colin
After the forum upgrade, the URLs changed...here are the new links:Cuebacca said:Thanks, Deadaim and Colin for your efforts making this information available to us. Unfortunately, all of these links are dead for some reason.Is there any way you could post that Word doc again?
Introduction: http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=9114
Part 1: http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=9115
Part 2: http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=9121
Part 3: http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=9146
Part 4: http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=9148
Part 5: http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=9150
Part 6: http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=9166
Part 7: http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=9167
Part 8: http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=9168
Conclusion: http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=9170
Here is the download location for the Word Doc with all the posts and diagrams:
http://download.yousendit.com/9FEE9837326BC7FE
This will only be available for 7 days. Could someone host it on their website so it is available permanantly?
Colin
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Here it is on rapidshare:
http://rapidshare.de/files/20418836/KICKING_ACADEMY.doc.html
As long as someone downloads it every 30 days it'll stay up indefinatly....
http://rapidshare.de/files/20418836/KICKING_ACADEMY.doc.html
As long as someone downloads it every 30 days it'll stay up indefinatly....