Diamond tables (Black phenolic vs. Dymondwood)
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Exactly. That was my impression. Also the fingerprints and chalk show everywhere.
These new tables also have the coin device installed, and it takes longer for the Cue ball to find it's way to the box and all the players are annoyed at bending down and searching for the ball and it not being there after a scratch.
Does that mean they have to use a magnetic cue ball to work this table?
Does that mean they have to use a magnetic cue ball to work this table?
The cue ball don't take any longer to return than on any other coin operated pool table, and Diamonds have never used a magnetic cue ball, I think you have the Diamonds confused with Valley tables, they are the ones that use the magnetic cue balls.
The Smart Table can 'see' the cueball and direct it to the correct place.
How does it know to send the Cue ball to you and not the others when you are playing with the coin operated device? It seems like the ball return takes forever on these tables either way, they run down the glassed area on the side instead of the center like the others.
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From what I've seen, barbox ball return tables all tend to use a funnel type system that sends them to the window. The cb on a valley rolls of the track from size or magnets or whatever, but diamond uses a light sensor that triggers a kicker to send the red circle to the front. The cb may take a second longer, but the rest are about the same, imo.
Btw, did you get any pictures of the new tables?
The cue ball is separated by density, hardness, because it's harder than the object balls. What coin operated pool table don't roll the balls beside a ball view window? The ProAm 9ft returns the cue ball to the foot of the table in 3.5 seconds at the longest, but that's not a coin operated pool table either
Just talked to Greg here at turning stone about these tables. The ball takes 8 seconds to get to the box, so there is about a 4.5 second delay as opposed to the non coin opp tables. This wood is actually pressed paper with phenolic treatment, so it's very hard. so far black is the only color but they want to work with others.
The diamond wood factory burnt to the ground and the owners got an insurance settlement and retired, so they won't get that type of wood again. Unless another company copies the formula and starts to produce which he is hoping for.
Until then, this is the material they will be using.
Pockets are 4.5 "corners 5 "sides.
These tables are going right from here to Derby
The diamond wood factory burnt to the ground and the owners got an insurance settlement and retired, so they won't get that type of wood again. Unless another company copies the formula and starts to produce which he is hoping for.
Until then, this is the material they will be using.
Pockets are 4.5 "corners 5 "sides.
These tables are going right from here to Derby
I just took a round of photos with the wife's camera, it was too dark for my phone camera.
After I get back tonight I'll get some photos up on this thread.
The sensors on Diamonds measure optical density (color), not hardness.
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Thanks a bunch. Will probably be getting some soon and really hope they're not butt ugly.
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I agree with you, I originally had a Diamond with Cherry wood and it was gorgeous, but it hurt everytime a ball bounced on or off a rail dimples and dents pile up over time as do scratches from players belt buckles and rings. I traded it in for a Dymondwood and could not be happier and you are right it looks great with some polish. The table was installed two years ago and looks like the day it was put in.
I agree with you, I originally had a Diamond with Cherry wood and it was gorgeous, but it hurt everytime a ball bounced on or off a rail dimples and dents pile up over time as do scratches from players belt buckles and rings. I traded it in for a Dymondwood and could not be happier and you are right it looks great with some polish. The table was installed two years ago and looks like the day it was put in.
Could you elaborate on the loss of quality in production statement?
Here are the photos I took from tonight....
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so the grain you actually can see is the layers of pressed paper which create the wood. I am interested if they can come with a nice dark wood color like the pro-am tables, but after talking to greg, I'm thinking we won't be seeing that nice beautiful brown table for a while. The factory is gone for good.
Yes, for sure - thanks for those diamond wood pictures for comparison - after seeing them side by side, there is no question, those were gorgeous tables. Watch for the value in those to go up. The actual wood grain looks beautiful compared to the imitation grain of the pressed paper/phenolic treated panels in the new editions.