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I have a big problem making balls with center ball hit... I'm always throwing the ball in the pocket with english ( inside outside )

I can make incredible shot, but if I want play center ball I always undercut my shot cause my habit is to throw it, I just dont have confidence in center ball hit

I feel like I have to start over again... I'm going to play 14-1 with only center ball for practicing


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Yeah I'm not just using helping I'm using both but I think its just a question of confidence for the center ball
 
RickyD77 said:
Yeah I'm not just using helping I'm using both but I think its just a question of confidence for the center ball
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With center ball,I think the OB and CB take a slight turn together. Try aiming at the upper part (or slightly above ) the edge of the pocket facing.
 
RickyD77 said:
I have a big problem making balls with center ball hit... I'm always throwing the ball in the pocket with english ( inside outside )
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Put an object ball on the center spot and place the cue ball in a direct line 6" from the OB to one of the corner pockets.
Hit the cue ball just far enough above center so it will follow the OB into the pocket.
You can't make both balls unless you hit the cue ball exactly near it's center line.
 
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I struggle w/ no sidespin too. Inside/ outside, no prob. I just don't see the aim spot with centerball.

I do use varying degrees of side w/ no problem, so some shots are close to centerball, but there is still some deviation from center...

I heard that a handicap given was that one shooter had to lick finger/ touck tip before each shot...aside from the obvious- gross- I guess that would teach you (us!) to hit center.
 
try shooting the shot real soft with follow thru and after time will train your stroke---worked for me
 
My problem is not to shoot center ball, if I saw the pocket I have no problem, when its becoming over 45 degres and shooting away, I'm just not sure about the shot if I use no english and it becomes a bit frustrating,

I have less trouble to shoot a very high dificulty shot whit mabe low right, thant try to do the same shot just center ball :)
 
If you can't deliver the tip of the cue in a straight line to the selected point on the cue ball either you cue is hopelessly warped or your stroke mechanics and/or stance are faulty.

You can try doing some standard exercises (E.G. Shooting the cue ball to a rail and trying to get it to come back and hit your cue tip, trying to follow the cue ball into the same pocket as the object ball) and keep practicing these with your existing stroke faults until you can adjust for them well enough to hit center ball despite them. However I believe you will get a much better improvement from investing in some professional coaching or instruction from someone who can properly asses and adjust your mechanics.

I too used to shoot almost every cut shot with a bit of outside whenever possible, and I know some really good players say they do this. (E.G. Earl Strickland) However I'd also miss straight shots regularly by hitting them either off-center producing a bad aim and unintentional side English. I finally decided to have had some lessons with Scott Lee. What he teaches (Stance, mechanics, SPF, SAM aiming etc.) has REALLY helped me play center-axis shots much better. I find myself playing far fewer side English shots and making more balls in, so I am very happy with this.

I'll be honest that what he taught me did not sink in straight away. You do have to work to implement a different stroke as it will throw you off completely at first, but it has been worth it for me. Some stuff has taken longer than others to get through my dense head. For example I injured my left ankle a while ago and couldn't throw my body forward on that leg anymore when breaking. Now I am keeping my body down and keeping my stroke fairly normal, just accelerating it a bit faster, and am nailing the wing ball and controlling the cue ball with much more consistency.

It also greatly helps when you are forced to play a non-standard shot. For example last night whilst playing 9 Ball I had a dead straight shot on the 8 with the cue ball almost froze on the rail. The 9 was right next to the 8 so any slight angle off center would have caused me to hit the 9 first, or miss the 8. I could have slow rolled the cue ball through and accepted a tough cut on the 9, or jacked up and drawn back for perfect position on the 9. These jacked-up from the rail, dead-straight shots used to terrify me because I was so inconsistent at them even over a short distance. With what I have learned from Mr. Lee I chose the draw shot, placed my bridge and back hand correctly and nailed it.
 
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since I have no trouble on making long and short straight shot I think it more on the aiming side, since I was throwing balls with english I think I undercut those with no english

thank all for your help
 
I would bet you tend to miss to one side of the pocket way more than the other... What hand do you shoot?

I looked at your post again. You under cut the shot. Right hand playing to left pocket you hit to the right of pocket, is this correct? If it is, I would check to see if your stroke starts inside and finishes out. Even though you align and take practice strokes center ball, this stroke will cause the same miss over and over. If you over cut then the stroke would be out to in!
 
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RickyD77 said:
I have a big problem making balls with center ball hit... I'm always throwing the ball in the pocket with english ( inside outside )

I can make incredible shot, but if I want play center ball I always undercut my shot cause my habit is to throw it, I just dont have confidence in center ball hit

I feel like I have to start over again... I'm going to play 14-1 with only center ball for practicing


thank
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Your may be having trouble finding the center of the Ball. If you know which eye is dominate, line up your shot as you normally would for a center ball hit. Then close your none dominate eye, and see if you cue tip is at the center of the ball. If you need to make an adjustment, do so and shoot the shot, this will give you the correct sight picture, however, it will only work if you use your dominate eye while aiming.

Hope this helps!!!!
 
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Your may be having trouble finding the center of the Ball. If you know which eye is dominate, line up your shot as you normally would for a center ball hit. Then close your none dominate eye, and see if you cue tip is at the center of the ball. If you need to make an adjustment, do so and shoot the shot, this will give you the correct sight picture, however, it will only work if you use your dominate eye while aiming.

Hope this helps!!!!
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You can also aim at the number on the ball. Stroke tip until it touches the number and see if it hits where you thought.
 
RickyD77 said:
since I have no trouble on making long and short straight shot I think it more on the aiming side, since I was throwing balls with english I think I undercut those with no english

thank all for your help
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Simple question. What makes you think you were "throwing" those balls in????randyg
 
I am a rookie and sometimes I hear a lot of people say that they forget about the simple stuff and only remember the advance stuff. Take this with a grain of salt, as I am no instructor. This is a routine I was taught, and a very popular routine. My first lesson before I even get to hit an OB was to hit the CB 30 times non stop, dead center. Shoot to opposite rail and let it come back. If it doesn't come back to the tip of your cue, you are not hitting the center. I had to do it over and over again. At first, I thought, what a waste of time, than I realize how much better it made me to learn how to shoot dead center and to shoot straight. Hope this helps.

Chino
 
Dude!....I rarely post info that will ruffle the feathers of the established board, BUT......shoot the ball into the hole.....if it goes in GREAT! if not, try another way.

I have been playing for so long that my moto is WATEVERWORKSWORKS!

I might catch some flack, but most know me as a good dude, and not one to BS, so.....what worx for you worx for you....end of post!


good luck, G.
 
Gerry said:
Dude!....I rarely post info that will ruffle the feathers of the established board, BUT......shoot the ball into the hole.....if it goes in GREAT! if not, try another way.

I have been playing for so long that my moto is WATEVERWORKSWORKS!

I might catch some flack, but most know me as a good dude, and not one to BS, so.....what worx for you worx for you....end of post!


good luck, G.
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Great advice... I think Nike believes the same "Just Do It". Pool instruction books would be short. How to play pool. Chapter 1 Aiming: Just Do It. Chapter 2 Shape: Just Do It. Chapter 3 Don't listen to him: Just Do It.:thumbup:

If you want to fix this on your own, take video! Everyone notices the stroke of a good player, try to stroke like one on camera.
 
I like the just do it :)

For Randyg: I know im throwing the balls in cause even in fairly straigth shot I throw the ball wit english. exemple cue an object ball at 4 inch to the long rail I will just put a touch of english to send the ball in

I got good result with my pool I just want to improve my game and have the fondation even better

thank and excuse my english
 
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