Did you know this about Buddy Hall, The man!!!

No I am not KIDDING

Eric, Mike told me weeks later at a party, that they DUMPED.
When Vegas bookies found out they were furious.
The boy's made a lot of money !!!!!!
 
BarneyCalip said:
Met Buddy at Jay Helferts, LA Open in Burbank.
He was awesome.

To me the best player that beat Buddy soundly.
Was Mike Lebron at the 1991 International Challenge of Champions.
Spanish Mike put the fear into Buddy, Buddy missed some easy shots.
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Buddy got beat!!! That was a miracle! Thanks for your input, Barney. Always good to hear from you.
Many Regards,
Lock N Load.
 
vagabond said:
In 1990 or 1991 at continental Inn in Lexington, KY, Buddy beat parica in a tournament-(?) Lexington all stars. billy Incadona did really sweat over that match. I now don`t remember any details and all I remember was it was a nail biter:cool:
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Thanks my thread needed this post of yours very bad!!! Now they know and do not have to guess about this match up!
Many Regards,
Lock N Load.
 
I've always thought that Buddy is the king. That stroke of his is a thing of beauty. He hardly taps at the ball and gets more action than most of us could even dream about. I would give anything to have his stroke.
MULLY
 
mullyman said:
I've always thought that Buddy is the king. That stroke of his is a thing of beauty. He hardly taps at the ball and gets more action than most of us could even dream about. I would give anything to have his stroke.
MULLY
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I would too Mullyman! He is the best! Period. Thanks for your input.
Many Regards,
Lock n load.
 
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Yukon Ed said:
These tournaments he won with a different cue were on the Florida tour. I guess you could inflate their importance and call them pro events.

I watched a ton of Buddy Accu-stats tapes from the 80s and the 90s. I also firmly believe his reputation is overrated. Of the tapes I own, he was rarely the favorite to win the match, let alone the tournament. When he won the U.S. Open, it was an upset. Sorry.
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Which one of his U.S. Open 9 Ball Championships was he an underdog in???
In 1991 or 1998? Or didn't you know he won two of them? Along with several World 9 Ball Championships as well.....

Luther Lassiter, Earl Strickland, Mike Sigel & Buddy Hall were the 4 best (in my opinion) 9 ballers ever in the USA.

Superstars like Nick Varner & Allen Hopkins were also superb 9 ballers, but their reputations were also solidified thru their championships won in 14.1, One Pocket & Banks. Varner & Hopkins were better all-around players than Stickland & Hall, but Lassiter & Sigel were also killers in 14.1.

The pool historians who know the pecking order of the players ALWAYS rank Buddy Hall among the best ever to have played 9 Ball. Asking if he should have been in the Hall of Fame (which he is, by the way) is akin to asking "Is water wet?"

Lock-n-Load, thank you for the nice article you shared on Buddy. I haven't been able to spend much time on here or at 1P.org for the last few months, but hopefully, I'll be able to get back to spending some more time here. I can't imagine all the good material I've missed reading.

*Please relay to Buddy that he & his wife and children are in my prayers.
 
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Nostroke said:
Buddy thinks Lassiter was the best with 15 wins at Johnston City vs then next best at JC-Shorty with 3 wins. Heard him say it myself.
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Larry "Boston Shorty" Johnson actually has 4 wins at the Johnston City All-Arounds.

Eddie Taylor and Harold Worst each has 3.
 
Terry Ardeno said:
Which one of his U.S. Open 9 Ball Championships was he an underdog in???
In 1991 or 1998? Or didn't you know he won two of them? Along with several World 9 Ball Championships as well.....

Luther Lassiter, Earl Strickland, Mike Sigel & Buddy Hall were the 4 best (in my opinion) 9 ballers ever in the USA.

Superstars like Nick Varner & Allen Hopkins were also superb 9 ballers, but their reputations were also solidified thru their championships won in 14.1, One Pocket & Banks. Varner & Hopkins were better all-around players than Stickland & Hall, but Lassiter & Sigel were also killers in 14.1.

The pool historians who know the pecking order of the players ALWAYS rank Buddy Hall among the best ever to have played 9 Ball. Asking if he should have been in the Hall of Fame (which he is, by the way) is akin to asking "Is water wet?"

Lock-n-Load, thank you for the nice article you shared on Buddy. I haven't been able to spend much time on here or at 1P.org for the last few months, but hopefully, I'll be able to get back to spending some more time here. I can't imagine all the good material I've missed reading.

*Please relay to Buddy that he & his wife and children are in my prayers.
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Hello Terry and wife,
I miss you on the AZB forum. I am glad to see your post. I will tell Buddy and wife that they are in your prayers. Buddy will be glad to hear that. I trust that you and the wife are doing well! Keep in touch with me.
Many Regards,
Lock N Load.
 
Back room sessions.

Buddy was the most feared and best player for the cash that ever lived. But did everybody forget that Dan Louis came to Buddy's place when they both were in their prime. They played and Dan Louis broke Buddy and the whole town. Now that was a major hit and a gutsy take down.
 
Neil said:
Best ever means just that. The best player. You are thinking of the best tournament player, which as we all know is usually not the best player in the event. To win a tournament, you have to play good, and the luck factor has to go your way. All tourneys are short races. I've beaten guys in tournaments that playing for money I wouldn't even bother getting on the table with them. The spot I would need would be ridiculous to even ask for. The best player is the guy that everyone else want's weight from or won't play unless they are in a short race tournament.
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This is the best explanation of what the best ever player means/is that I have ever read!

And for all of us that is in the know, that would be Buddy Hall.


David Harcrow
 
Who does Buddy consider as the greatest player of all time, all respect aside etc.. down to the nitty gritty.. the "best" in Buddy's opinion?
 
ironman said:
I have psted about his before and will do it again. If it is old to some, my apologies.
Back inthe early 70's i lived in a small town in Arkansas only about 90 miles from Shreveport. the only newspapers we got was the Shreveport Times and Arkansas Gazzette.
one day I was reading the Times and in the sports section was the full page article about Buddy Hall. It gave a brief Bio and stated he was willing to play anyone, anyone and gaurnteed, $50,000 worht of action. he was automatically my hero.
A buddy and myself went to Shreveport that weekend and directly to Guys & Dolls where h was known to hang out.
The pool room was on the bottom floor of wne of the larger office builings downtown. Thee was a room to the side that had once been a barber shop with 2 Gold crowns and a big poster on the wall that said, "this room is dedicated to Buddy Hall, the best living 9 ball player and the best there has ever been."
We hung round the room and overheard that he was to play some guy the next day named Louie Roberts. Buddy was giving the 7 ball and they were to play 8 haead for $2500. This was to take place Sunday afternoon at 1 PM and I knew where I would be.
We got a room and stayed over and I was so anxious, I could barely sleep.
Now nearly 40 years later I feel as though I witnessed one of the greatest 9 ball matches ever. Itlasted about 20 hours and Buddy came out 4 sets ahead. The only person to stay as long as me was Redd Box, Buddys backer.
Buddy was much lighter then and in pretty good shape. he hammered on poor Louie for endless hours and hours. It seemed that every time Louie pushed out Buddy would punish him with long banks, short banks, combinations, or some crazy safety.
louie never stopped chattering and Buddy rarely spoke a word. Lopies associate or girlfrien, a stoned knockout finally had seen all she could and just left handing Louie a large roll which he kept putting into play.
It isn't like louie played so badly either, he just didn't shoot much.
Buddies style and grace had a profound impact ont e way I looked at the game from that pint on.
About 3 years later I got play him at the Tropicana in Vegas and I don't even want to discuss the result of that.
i iam biased of course but Buddy is by far the vest 9 ball player I ever saw.
i will remeber that day for the remaider of my life!
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Lewis,
great story and certainly some fond memory's, I remember Buddy's private room at the Guy's -N- Doll's poolroom in Shreveport,LA. it had a half plate glass window you could look through into the side room, or if you was in the know, you could get a seat in the theater chairs for a ring side view of the action.

When Calvin was 18yrs. and just learning the game he would pump up his chump change and head out to Shreveport to play Buddy, Calvin would lose and in a month or so he would go back for more lessons from Buddy, by learning how to play 9-Ball from Buddy it certainly molded Calvin into the pool player that he became for sure.


David Harcrow
 
my old mentor

catpool9 said:
Lewis,
great story and certainly some fond memory's, I remember Buddy's private room at the Guy's -N- Doll's poolroom in Shreveport,LA. it had a half plate glass window you could look through into the side room, or if you was in the know, you could get a seat in the theater chairs for a ring side view of the action.

When Calvin was 18yrs. and just learning the game he would pump up his chump change and head out to Shreveport to play Buddy, Calvin would lose and in a month or so he would go back for more lessons from Buddy, by learning how to play 9-Ball from Buddy it certainly molded Calvin into the pool player that he became for sure.


David Harcrow
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David,

Great story, and made me remember my old mentor. Jesse watched for months as I came in and actually hit balls, not just stood or sat around, for more hours a day than most people worked a job. After awhile he started coming over and showing me one little thing at a time most days, once in a great long time he might show me two things in one day. Nothing made him madder than people offering to pay for lessons though. He thought they were trying to buy what he had taken many years to learn. I still can remember his growl, "I'll give them lessons, all the lessons they want for ten a game!"

Hu
 
catpool9 said:
Lewis,
great story and certainly some fond memory's, I remember Buddy's private room at the Guy's -N- Doll's poolroom in Shreveport,LA. it had a half plate glass window you could look through into the side room, or if you was in the know, you could get a seat in the theater chairs for a ring side view of the action.

When Calvin was 18yrs. and just learning the game he would pump up his chump change and head out to Shreveport to play Buddy, Calvin would lose and in a month or so he would go back for more lessons from Buddy, by learning how to play 9-Ball from Buddy it certainly molded Calvin into the pool player that he became for sure.


David Harcrow
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Hello David,
Good story. Thanks.
Many Regards,
Lock n load.
 
Thanks

pt109 said:
I've always suspected that Buddy Hall was showing respect to his elders
when he said Wimpy was the best. Lassiter has said the opposite.

Here is a clip from '99....Buddy is 54 and at least 100 pounds over weight
but still shows that golden stroke.
I first saw him in the 70's when he was fit...in this video he looks like he's
gasping for air...and still hits the ball so well it makes you want to cry.

..notice when a ball is bothering his bridge, Buddy always goes to the
short bridge...looks much more stable that jacking up from the other side
of the ball.
..http://www.google.ca/url?url=http:/...p+hall&usg=AFQjCNHIyHtcDDX76dUgC5oA02Nu52P9Kw
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Thanks for posting the link to the video. I really enjoyed it. It's a pleasure to watch how easy Buddy made the game look but we all know it isn't! I was at Forest Park Billiards in Dayton when Buddy won the 9 ball in 1974 IIRC. It was (I think) one of the first tournaments that he played it.

I also recall being at Starchers at the Akron Open and was outside talking to Earl Strickland and commenting how well Earl played. Earl thanked me and just then Buddy was driving his Thunderbird down the drive past us and Earl said: "That's the mayor, right there"! I'll never forget that.

I wish Buddy the best and he'll always be in my thoughts and prayers.

Thanks Lock N Load for posting info on Buddy. He is a legend for sure!
Curly
 
curly said:
Thanks for posting the link to the video. I really enjoyed it. It's a pleasure to watch how easy Buddy made the game look but we all know it isn't! I was at Forest Park Billiards in Dayton when Buddy won the 9 ball in 1974 IIRC. It was (I think) one of the first tournaments that he played it.

I also recall being at Starchers at the Akron Open and was outside talking to Earl Strickland and commenting how well Earl played. Earl thanked me and just then Buddy was driving his Thunderbird down the drive past us and Earl said: "That's the mayor, right there"! I'll never forget that.

I wish Buddy the best and he'll always be in my thoughts and prayers.

Thanks Lock N Load for posting info on Buddy. He is a legend for sure!
Curly
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Hello Curly,
It was a real pleasure to post about Buddy Hall, who is my good friend!
You are welcome.
Many Regards,
Lock n load.
 
Celtic said:
Has he ever played even close to this speed the article indicates he had on video? I have watched alot of Buddy Hall video from the 80's, as much as I can find, and I have never seen him play at a level close to the peak I have seen Sigel or Earl or Efren on video. Now maybe he is just the epitome of a hustler and the instant the camera was turned on he went into intentional dog mode, but no video I have ever seen of him has ever made me think "man, that guys is the best 9-ball player ever", and I mean not even close. I have seen video of Sigel playing near perfect, seemingly unbeatable, I have seen Earl play unbelieavbly sick offensive pool, I have seen Efren play absolutely insanely good to where if he ever had a actual top break he would have won everything. I have never seen a video of Buddy that has really impressed me. I know the stories, I know he is a supposed cash game legend, but his actual top speed is a mystery to anyone who was not there if he actually had that type of game to slaughter the above mentioned players like that article indicates.
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Maybe you should go watch the S.C. Open match in 1988 between Buddy and Earl. If I ever had to pick a match which discloses Earl's PISS POOR pattern play, this would be it. I mean it was PATHETIC. The only reason Earl has done so well is his shot making ability, and good break. If you can't see this, then you know nothing about pattern play.

Besides, Lock, the jury is still out if Buddy beat Cole Dickson or not, other than he beat me some and I beat him some. Maybe his was just being nice to Cole or was embarrassed that he really got beat by Cole - who knows.
 
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