DMIRO Tour News

Mikey returns

For all those who gave their hard earned money to this toolbag and his sham DMIRO tour, Mikey's back in town. His Haiti security gig must not have worked out to well. Playing as badly as ever, but not running his mouth quite as much. No doubt he stiffed Alan Jr. and kept the end of year tournament money. Classic.. very classic..
 
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For all those who gave their hard earned money to this toolbag and his sham DMIRO tour, Mikey's back in town. His Haiti security gig must not have worked out to well. Playing as badly as ever, but not running his mouth quite as much. No doubt he stiffed Alan Jr. and kept the end of year tournament money. Classic.. very classic..

Hmmm, things must not be very well to return to this area. But it's probably the same all over ! Where are the good old days ? :eek:
 
I had no doubt that me going to Salt City the other day that Brain would get on and run his mouth as usual. No one was stiffed. I was offered anouther position in the area, so I didn't have to depoly. The security and investigations company had anouther oppurtunity for me to work in Pennsylvannia. So I am back to work full time as a Private Investigator.

And does it realllly matter? The tour wasn't making money so you expected me to stay on the road making no money? **** no. I needed to get back to work. I don't even know why I am writing this, but I sincerely don't give a shit what anyone has to say.

for someone who didn't want to comment anymore you sure do make a lot of posts;)
 
Mike, I'm glad to here you have new ways and means.

It's too bad the tour didn't go as well as you would have liked it to.

I give you a ton of credit for trying. That is much more than most would undertake. You did put in alot of time for no rewards. not to mention the often bashing comments that came with your efforts.

Good luck to ya , Zilla
 
mike is a loser

When was the money you mentioned given over to my father for the year-end event? I know I never heard about it, so maybe he forgot to mention it to me.

I know I was at sbe and there was nothing about the 10 ball event, I asked allen sr. and guess what? Mike never sent the money! Suprise suprise.

I hope your grandparents kick you out and you have to make your own way someday.

You lied, quit justifing it and man up. Admit you are a liar and a thief, then maybe you can learn from your mistakes.

And noone is fooled by you 'not caring' if you didn't care you wouldn't reply to posts
 
So why didn't Mike deposit money into the bank account as agreed upon and why is he "holding" it?

Most people who are "holding" money don't really have it - it's long blown.

I hope I'm wrong. Whatever Allen says was supposed to happen - that's the way it was, imo. The man is gold. Mike Andrews? Not so much.

I guess you are on the Hopkins' side?

I suspect Mike was 'holding' the $ because he would not have access to it once deposited in the account Allen controlled.

You know what, you are right about gold.

My thoughts? I wouldn't want to be in business with either side of this. The road to hell is paved with good intention.
 
OK, I double checked... no money was ever sent in. From what I understand, Mike made it very clear that he was planning on sending the money he had collected and held, even though it was a "small" amount.

Aside from being pointed out on the forum, this was also told to me during the last bit of actual conversation I had with Mike by phone.

Perhaps you can offer an explanation for this Mike?
 
Wow, the money was sent. Just like Allen told people at the expo, that he was not going to hold the event because no one was asking about it. He told someone that he was going to let it die and everyone was going to forget about it. So... year end event, not my fault. Allen took the responsibility for holding that event at the Expo and didn't do it. He has the money, including the $400.00 I gave him in New York.

I don't care anymore I am going to delete this azbilliards forum bull shit. It was 1600.00 Allen has it, and I don’t give a shit anymore... And I frankly don’t give a shit what Allen says or Allen jr says.

When it all is said and done, they have to make me look like the ass, because it could hurt their name and the SBE. So that's fine, make me look like the bad guy. I did everything from putting it together traveling everywhere, and all Allen did was lie. Lies about saying he wanted to play all these events, told people he was going to be there and I had to cover for him and tell people he was too busy. He said he was going to help promote these, and do mass e-mailing and he DID ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. So the year end event is his responsibility. Maybe if he stopped drinking and didn't conduct business while drinking this would have never happened. I knew I should have listened to my instincts when I started this. He made a million promises while I was at his house and we went out for lunches and drinks; and he never kept one.

The only down fall and the reason all this happened was because we didn't get the players, and why? Because Allen didn't promote shit. He didn't do a damn thing, and that caused me to lose money, so I had to go back to work and give up on this tour. The responsibility lies in his hands.

Think whatever you want, blame me, I assure you I don't give a shit. When I knew I was canceling this, I talked to ALOT of people, and everyone knew no matter what I was going to be made a shit head.

To all you bangers out there, have a candid conversation with almost all the pros out there and get their real humble opinion of Allen Hopkins and his SBE, and his "PROMOTIONS".

It’s all bull shit and to only benefit him, so he has to protect himself, so I am the shit head, I get it, and I don't care.

He has the money. Now piss off.

yup, you're all good. you should have stuck to not reading or posting. sounds like you're going to blow an o ring. don't know who did or didn't do what, but you aren't helping your cause with an out burst like this one.
 
Ok so I don't know shit and shinola about this tour but I have to interject something about Allen Hopkins Sr.

Allen Hopkins is one of the most straight up and professional people in pool. He has worked his ass off to promote pool in various capacities through out his life.

His Super Billiards Expo is the most successful show in the world of it's kind.

He has on more than one occassion done transactions with me that went above and beyond and solidified his integrity and class with me.

I am proud to say that Allen Hopkins was and is a pool hero of mine and that I am lucky and proud to have worked with him for the last 17 years of going to his events.

This man has nothing to gain by scamming a rinky dink tour in any fashion whatsoever.
 
Just because you lost money, that doesn't justify ANY of your actions. I cannot understand why you don't understand that. In any business venture there is a risk, if it was so easy and guaranteed, everyone would do it. You put up money to make money. You failed. Period. For whatever reasons you can come up with, in the end - look in the mirror, you failed.

Taking it out on the players is complete b.s. Do you have a copy of the check that you gave to Allen? Please don't tell me after all this back and forth, he said she said, that you handed him cash and left yourself unprotected once again. Certainly you can't be that pitiful of a businessman. Hell, tgat would be simple common sense and have nothing to do with business.
 
Really he doesn’t? Yes he does. He has someone to blame his failures on. Just like the Million Dollar nothing and the other crap he has tried in the end. Everyone knew at the beginning that it would not happen because Allen was involved and I ignored all the signs. I thought Allen was a stand up guy, and a very likeable guy. Very Likeable. He did nothing to help the tour, and did nothing he said he was going to do. So he has to protect his name and make me look like the ass so the DMIRO tour will not be added to the list of his failures. Kiss his ass all you want John, but wake the **** up, he has everything to gain here. His credibility back.

He did nothing for this tour and that is why I had to spend THOUSANDS. Let’s do some math...

Allen Paid $250.00 for the LLC.

He paid $500 for an attorney (which was his wishes)

I paid for the website, I traveled for 6 months, and I spent over 40 nights in hotel rooms, drove to Florida three times, from the North East.

All said and done, I spent over $19,000.00.

So who the **** lost out? I did. Allen LOST NOTHING. He has the $1,600.00 so people should start calling him and asking when he is going to hold this year end event he promised. This way no one can ignore it, and forget about it, and make me look like the bad guy.

How about since Allen and I are business partners he pays me a few thousand dollars for all the money I lost. After all that is how every other business operates.

And why would I put money in ANY account that I didnt have access to when I was the ONLY one putting money in this tour and running it and Allen did nothing? No way was I going to do that. Not a chance.

I am done with these idiots.

And the only reason any of this started again, was an idiot from Syracuse, named Brian Lipes started running his mouth again on here.


Yes Mike, you lost out because that was your plan. You specifically wanted to invest all of your time and money into this tour. My dad was NEVER on board as an investor, financial partner, travelling promoter, or organizer - did you forget all that? Do you forget all the conversations we had where I explained that you would lose a lot of money, spend a lot of time, and all for probably nothing? Your business plan has no viable way to generate income or to cover expenses. I'm sorry the tour did not work, I have already told you I admired your ambition for trying, but it was an almost impossible concept from the start, based on your projections - and you knew that.

You told me, over and over, that you were prepared to invest everything you had, because all good things require sacrifice. I won't mention the numbers you gave me here, but we both know it's a lot more than the numbers you just posted above. Again, my dad was NEVER an investor and was NEVER on board to work and promote these events, and you knew that all full well in advance. And now you are going to throw him under the bus and personally attack him for this failure, and do it here on a forum that you know he doesn't participate in anyhow? The tour failed simply because it was very difficult to make work. No one is calling you a failure. Just because something doesn't work doesn't mean you start personally attacking people. You truly are a class act.

I am not even going to begin to try to counter most of the garbage you spewed in your earlier post. if you honestly believe after all of the years that my dad has been in billiards, that he is trying to steal $1600 and keep that from players in order to make you look bad, you are even more sad than I thought. Yes, some of the ideas he has tried were not a success. Not everything everybody does is successful, but he does not need some no-name lowlife from NY as a scapegoat.

I was only asking about the money you were going to submit. Nothing was ever received, so can you provide me with a cancelled check or some sort of verification that it was sent? Maybe it got lost. If you really sent a check, or made a deposit, there would be some sort of proof of that. There is an outside possibility that some type of mistake occurred, and if so, I will look into it if you can provide any type of proof of what you claim.

You asked why you would put money in an account that you did not have access to... Well, how about because that was the plan? That money was supposed to be held for a year end event, as you know, and it was never put there - which is why we are here now. Not because of some guy from Syracuse. Well that, and the fact that you like to make all your business public on a forum, where you can write slanderous comments safely from your Grandmas house.

Even if the tour didn't work out, as long as the money held was in an account, there would have been a year end event - big or small. But again, as you admitted, you didn't put it there.

I am not even going to begin to try to counter most of the garbage you spewed in your earlier post. If you honestly believe after all of the years that my dad has been in billiards, that he is trying to steal $1600 and keep that from players in order to make you look bad, you are even more sad than I thought.

Again, just let me know when, where, and how you sent the money over and I will try to figure out what happened - simple as that.
 
Did Allen Sr look under his pillow - maybe Mike is friends with the tooth fairy and left it there?
 
Mikey tellin tales again

Come one Mike, do you really expect anyone to believe your horse shit anymore? Did you send 16 hundred dollar bills in an envelope? Ever hear of a certified check Mr. Bigshot?

You're too easy stupid. Put my name out, who cares?

You are nothing but a liar. You got me first, but I still get you best every time. Quit while you're behind dummy.
 
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