Do you Remember the Real 9 Ball game....

strokerace

strokerace

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when the all important shot was the spot shot..i practiced that spot

shot for hours..it was truely the money shot that couldn't and

shouldn't be missed..tell us what rules you played under..most young

players don't realize how hard this game used to be..with such games

as Shoot Out..Push..ect..most young have a wrong prospective of

the game of 9 Ball..they think its a ball in hand and luck game..also

mention what kind of ring games you played..SA
 
i made 53 spot shots in a row back in about 92, my friend was spotting the ball for me. It was on a murry table, I have never come close to that number again. When I catch a gear I really catch a gear, why my low and high gear is the biggest spread in pool is beyind me-but someone has to have the lowest low and highest high gear so it mighte as well be me:(:confused:
 
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And another lost shot...

What do you do when you have ball in hand with 2 balls on the spot line, lowered # ball in back?

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How about low# ball in front?! (supposed to be frozed together!)

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Black-Balled said:
And another lost shot...

What do you do when you have ball in hand with 2 balls on the spot line, lowered # ball in back?

How about low# ball in front?! (supposed to be frozed together!)
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I normally cross-banked the first one and played the 1p force-through shot on the 2nd one, but on 7 or 8 foot tables I would sometimes try to get one of them to bank 2 or 3 rails lengthwise. I'm thinking you have something better, though. You have my curiosity piqued now, so don't let me down dammit. :smile:

Aaron
 
Aaron_S said:
I normally cross-banked the first one and played the 1p force-through shot on the 2nd one, but on 7 or 8 foot tables I would sometimes try to get one of them to bank 2 or 3 rails lengthwise. I'm thinking you have something better, though. You have my curiosity piqued now, so don't let me down dammit. :smile:

Aaron
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Wanna play some like that?
 
ironman said:
Wanna play some like that?
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Sure, as long as I get to shoot some shots other than those two, lol. I was actually thinking about having to play out of the kitchen. I would probably find something better with BIH, but I couldn't guarantee it.

Aaron
 
C'mon, olde people! None of you can remember the power moves from there?!

Black-Balled said:
And another lost shot...

What do you do when you have ball in hand with 2 balls on the spot line, lowered # ball in back?
How about low# ball in front?! (supposed to be frozed together!)
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Fatboy said:
i made 53 spot shots in a row back in about 92, my friend was spotting the ball for me. It was on a murry table, I have never come close to that number again. When I catch a gear I really catch a gear, why my low and high gear is the biggest spread in pool is beyind me-but someone has to have the lowest low and highest high gear so it mighte as well be me:(:confused:
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Yea FB..i have made bunches in a row..when 9 ball was good you
had to shoot behind the headstring quite often..and now since i came
back playing in March..haven't hit one practice spot shot..i am finally
hitting a gear now and then..wow..didn't think it would take this long..
but of course now all halls have liquor :eek:..SA
 
Haven't all games changed. Didn't 8 ball require the 1 to go into a side pocket and the 9 in the other before any other balls of your group could be made?

With the 9 ball becoming so "easy" for the pros it could make the game a little more challenging if the 1 had to be made in a designated pocket and then the 9 in that same pocket or the same pocket as the last ball made prior to the 9 ball.
 
Black-Balled said:
C'mon, olde people! None of you can remember the power moves from there?!
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Are you thinking about the "push" shot where you place the cue ball very close (almost touching) to the side of the one ball and make the 4 ball in the corner/side depending on if the one ball is in the front or back?

Oh, I'm not talking about that trick where you use your stick during the followthrew to hit it in either.

Thats about the only power shot I know that doesnt include banking a ball, so if its not, I cant wait to hear what you are thinking about.
 
strokerace said:
when the all important shot was the spot shot..i practiced that spot

shot for hours..it was truely the money shot that couldn't and

shouldn't be missed..tell us what rules you played under..most young

players don't realize how hard this game used to be..with such games

as Shoot Out..Push..ect..most young have a wrong prospective of

the game of 9 Ball..they think its a ball in hand and luck game..also

mention what kind of ring games you played..SA
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Its hard for me to remember correctly since I started playing right when the new thing was Texas Express (but I think it was called something else at the beginning of it).

Anyways, from what I remember, I used to play Shoot Out rules but I have a feeling that there are many variations and some localization of the rules.

Big differences between them and Texas Express that I recall:

No Push shot after the break.

Any ball made and a scratch or a foul happened, it would be spotted.

Scratch on the break was behind the line.

Scratch during the game was behind the line and the ball was spotted if it was in the kitchen.

If you were hooked, you had to make an honest effort to hit the object ball. If you did not hit the object ball on your first attemp then your opponent had the option to shot it where it lays or have you shoot again. If you miss it the second time, then its ball in hand.

No 3 foul rule.

I could have sworn we called the nine also.


Well thats what I can remember, I am sure this cant be all the differences?
 
TheBook said:
Haven't all games changed. Didn't 8 ball require the 1 to go into a side pocket and the 9 in the other before any other balls of your group could be made?
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This is a variation of the original rules, at least, the way I heard it. Called by various names of which one was Alabama 8 Ball.
 
(quote: Marie's Husband) If you were hooked, you had to make an honest effort to hit the object ball. If you did not hit the object ball on your first attemp then your opponent had the option to shot it where it lays or have you shoot again. If you miss it the second time, then its ball in hand.

I don't remember this rule in any worthwhile gambling game. This is an invitation for arguments. Pushout rules were very specific and in this case you had the option to push.

The shoot to hit rule applied to ring games but without BIH. When you're hooked in a ring game you did have to shoot to hit but many times the shooter intended to miss the kick so that they now may have the opportunity to see the ball and try something with reason in case they were allowed to shoot again.

In regards to calling the nine that was rare and only if you both agreed prior to starting the match.
 
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dabarbr said:
(quote: Marie's Husband) If you were hooked, you had to make an honest effort to hit the object ball. If you did not hit the object ball on your first attemp then your opponent had the option to shot it where it lays or have you shoot again. If you miss it the second time, then its ball in hand.

I don't remember this rule in any worthwhile gambling game. This is an invitation for arguments. Pushout rules were very specific and in this case you had the option to push.

The shoot to hit rule applied to ring games but without BIH. When you're hooked in a ring game you did have to shoot to hit but many times the shooter intended to miss the kick so that they now may have the opportunity to see the ball and try something with reason in case they were allowed to shoot again.

In regards to calling the nine that was rare and only if you both agreed prior to starting the match.
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I was just getting into pool at the time of the transition to Texas Express and it might have been the rules that we just played in the local college union. Since I did not travel around to play until later in life and the standard was Texas Express from that time on, I am not 100% sure and we might have been playing it wrong the entire time.

As for calling the nine, I dont remember doing it in ring games, but i do remember doing it playing one on one. Maybe it was because that is the way we both agreed but I am not sure and it just became a standard that we had.

I do wish someone had the an official rule book from 25 years ago so that they could post it on here to compare it to the Texas Express rules.

Thank You for the feedback, and now my head is hurting from trying to remember the specifics from 25 years ago.lol
 
Put the cue ball a bit off to the right of center at the head of the kitchen. Fire the ball for a dead center direct hit at the one ball with center low spin on the cue ball. (with regard to the two balls frozen in line on the spot). The one should go in the lower left hand corner a good percentage of the time.

ps: I'm assuming lowered number ball (one) in front and the cue ball must be placed inside the kitchen.
 
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dabarbr said:
(quote: Marie's Husband) If you were hooked, you had to make an honest effort to hit the object ball. If you did not hit the object ball on your first attemp then your opponent had the option to shot it where it lays or have you shoot again. If you miss it the second time, then its ball in hand.

I don't remember this rule in any worthwhile gambling game. This is an invitation for arguments. Pushout rules were very specific and in this case you had the option to push.

The shoot to hit rule applied to ring games but without BIH. When you're hooked in a ring game you did have to shoot to hit but many times the shooter intended to miss the kick so that they now may have the opportunity to see the ball and try something with reason in case they were allowed to shoot again.

In regards to calling the nine that was rare and only if you both agreed prior to starting the match.
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Pretty much the way I remember it, from the early '70s.
 
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