Does Barry Berhman endorse barring people traveling through?

[AuntyDan]

...lamest strip clubs ever...

Well I guess now we all know what you did for the rest of the day after you got thrown out of Q-Masters. ;-)

Seriously though, a locals-only policy would be sensible to enforce if the local regulars feel a stranger is trying to rip them off. If the local regulars have played you in the tournament and are comfortable with playing with you, as seems to be the case here, then the Management should be respecting their wishes.

Just to be cynical I guess one possibility is that you never know what a local might have said privately to the manager without your knowledge. Maybe you were interfering with someone's action or side-deal that you didn't know about?

I wouldn't imaging being in the Navy had much to do with it, unless you had docked a destroyer outside that was blocking up all the parking spots!

 

[jasonlaus]

I just want to thank you for your service...

Ditto...........

 

[jasonlaus]

Well I guess now we all know what you did for the rest of the day after you got thrown out of Q-Masters. ;-)

Seriously though, a locals-only policy would be sensible to enforce if the local regulars feel a stranger is trying to rip them off. If the local regulars have played you in the tournament and are comfortable with playing with you, as seems to be the case here, then the Management should be respecting their wishes.

Just to be cynical I guess one possibility is that you never know what a local might have said privately to the manager without your knowledge. Maybe you were interfering with someone's action or side-deal that you didn't know about?

I wouldn't imaging being in the Navy had much to do with it, unless you had docked a destroyer outside that was blocking up all the parking spots!

Did you actually read the original post? None of what you wrote makes any sense. Very

 

[Pushout]

The front of the room is NOT where players go.

I feel for you and can't imagine Barry having this kind of attitude. Most definitely would discourage out of towners. I agree that in many places, including Q-Master's, the players play in the back. However, many of the rooms I've been in around the NE, it's just the opposite. The players play in the front, it's where the better tables are, closer to the counter to order coffee and lunch, and where the rail congregates. If I was treated as you were, I'd be pissed, too.

 

[mikepage]

Well I guess now we all know what you did for the rest of the day after you got thrown out of Q-Masters. ;-)

Seriously though, a locals-only policy would be sensible to enforce if the local regulars feel a stranger is trying to rip them off. If the local regulars have played you in the tournament and are comfortable with playing with you, as seems to be the case here, then the Management should be respecting their wishes.

Just to be cynical I guess one possibility is that you never know what a local might have said privately to the manager without your knowledge. Maybe you were interfering with someone's action or side-deal that you didn't know about?

I wouldn't imaging being in the Navy had much to do with it, unless you had docked a destroyer outside that was blocking up all the parking spots!

My guess is it's an employee training issue. Q-masters is a nice room. I met and talked to several people there and like the place a lot.

But let me make this clear. I walked in alone, reasonably well dressed and with my 3X5 instroke case over my shoulder. It was the afternoon and the place wasn't busy. I took a little walk around, and then I went to the counter where there were two employees.

I chatted with them a bit and pointed out what a nice room I thought it was. I pointed out that the last time I was there, I thought a certain area had just Gold Crowns. I asked about the format of the leagues in the other room.

Then I asked if I might hit a few balls on one of the Diamonds in the back.

The response was something like "ahh ... ahh that area is usually for (I don't remember what was said here)." Then, a little uncomfortably, I said something like "Look, I'm no world beater..... But I mean... I am a player. Still it required they get someone else.

It struck me as unusual, and I've traveled around quite a bit.

My guess is it's instruction to non-player employees that if you don't recognize someone don't let him back there. If it hadn't happened to me, I might be inclined to think the OP pissed them off by trying to sneak into a handicapped tournament or something. But for what it's worth his story sounds kinda familiar.

 

[Fatboy]

norfolk sucks, i would be in jail if i spent another day there this past us open, i hate it!! i'm not sure what crime I would have commited but my nose was open,

 

[jasonlaus]

norfolk sucks, i would be in jail if i spent another day there this past us open, i hate it!! i'm not sure what crime I would have commited but my nose was open,

When you get a chance tell us how you really feel.LOL
Glad I hadn't been playing pool when I had to go to Norfolk. Sounds like this place just causes aggravation(have no idea how to spell this)who needs that sh** when you're trying to enjoy a day at the pool room.
There is a guy at one of the rooms down here that I won't even go to if he is working-azzhooooooooole

 

["T"]

Yes, I made friends with Junior. He was a Sailor origianlly from NJ, real cood dude. He looks just like Billy Coorgan from the Smashing Pumpkins. Robert Ray is a former Marine I guess. I don't think anybody should be treated like that though. It's not like I was asking for the balls on the "front table". They have 20 front tables basically. The locals even tried to vouch for me because I had won the tornament and I had gambled with Bill Duggan, one of their better locals, for 3-4 hours. The dudes working there were just out of touch, not a players environment afterall.

I'm very glad you feel that wasn't the main reason. I have bad memories of Norfolk when I was stationed in Yorktown some time ago. The locals basically distrusted anyone with a military haircut. I think it's tougher there than any other part of the country.

 

[AuntyDan]

Did you actually read the original post? None of what you wrote makes any sense. Very

I'm genuinely confused why you are confused. I'm not sure what did I not understand correctly. As I see it the O.P. comes into town, plays in the handicapped tournament with the locals, wins, comes back the next day to play some with the same locals and gets thrown out by the manager for either not being a local or not being good enough to play in that area of the club, or both.

I opined that some clubs have a policy to protect their regulars from people who they feel are top-class road-players trying to rip off lesser-skilled local players. If that were that case I would consider this to be OK, but that was not the case as described in this incident.

I also wondered if perhaps the reason this happened is because one of the local players who had publicly said it was fine for the O.P. to play with them had privately asked he be removed because of some unknown factor, that they did not want to have to confront the O.P. about it directly. (Like possibly they had some fish on the line later on that day that they did not want him to interfere with? Perhaps he just had bad breath and B.O? Heaven forfend, maybe he plays with a Cuetec cue, a glove and a chalk holder?)

 

[Ktown D]

norfolk sucks, i would be in jail if i spent another day there this past us open, i hate it!! i'm not sure what crime I would have commited but my nose was open,

You would have probably stabbed somebody. Oh wait.........you did.

 

[The Saw]

I'll set the scene. I'm in the Navy, I was about to transfer from Jacksonville, FL to Columbus, OH, but first I had to do a two week instructor course in Norfolk, VA.

If your transerring to Columbus you had better soak up as many good poolrooms as you can before you get here.... Not really any good ones left around Central Ohio. I assume you'll be stationed at Rickenbacker?!?!?

 

[iwilleatyou]

Ya I am

If your transerring to Columbus you had better soak up as many good poolrooms as you can before you get here.... Not really any good ones left around Central Ohio. I assume you'll be stationed at Rickenbacker?!?!?

I am stationed at the Reserve Center at Rickenbacker. I have only played a couple of times since I've been here. I have a son that was born right before we got here, so that he is my number one priorty now. I am going to the DCC though, first time, can't wait Son!

 

[jcommie]

Don't you mean "Son can wait"?
jk

 

[iwilleatyou]

Good One

Perhaps he just had bad breath and B.O? Heaven forfend, maybe he plays with a Cuetec cue, a glove and a chalk holder?)

No B.O., no coffee and cigs breath. I play with a Tucker, no Cuetec. No glove, no retractable chalk chain, no jeans shorts without a belt and a tucked in t-shirt, no fanny pack, no cell phone clipped on my belt, no $45,000 jacked up truck in the parking lot depleting my retirement fund. None of that stuff. Nothing to talk about behind my back, wasn't even like that. They were all cool. Just a Navy guy that plays the same speed the majority of us do. If we were golfers, most of us would be 2-5 handicaps. Haters working that day, that's all.

 

[bondsman]

I may get barred, flamed and called other names. But I have observed that Barry's place has a very bad attitude toward certain people. I mean that I have observed that Barry's place has a very poor attitude toward Black customer. I was even told that employee are told ways to make Black customers feel uncomfortable . I speak from personal observation while a customer there. Thats not to say that that is an issue in this case. Just stated to say my personal view of Barry's place.

A friend of mind was there for the U.S Open and was eating breakfast at the lunch counter. He was not drunk and had not spoken to anyone all night. The stool he was sitting on collapsed and he fell to the floor. He was injured and later the employees were upset at him and giving him a hard time. Refused to call an ambulance and told him to leave the poolroom. I saw what was happening and told him not to leave and called 911. I was playing at the time and told me to get out or they would call the police. I told to save their dime because I had already called the police. The employee actually hid the chair so the police would not see the chair for their report. Of course Barry was full of apologies thinking I would hire an attorney for my friend to sue him.

Trust what the poster says about that place. Its not by chance that this many people have had a problem with his employees. Employees generally are showing the face of the employer. In other words, it would be impossible for Barry to not know the way customers are treated at that poolroom.

 

[Nostroke]

I may get barred, flamed and called other names. But I have observed that Barry's place has a very bad attitude toward certain people. I mean that I have observed that Barry's place has a very por attitude toward Black customer. I was even told that employee are told ways to make Black customers feel uncomfortable . I speak from personal observation while a customer there. Thats not to say that that is an issue in this case. Just stated to say my personal view of Barry's place.

Man that's hard to believe-If true there'd be a nice payday available with a little work for some.

I like the place but the hamburgers are so overrated-In fact they suck!

 

[bondsman]

Its true and if you ask Barry I am sure he would remember. The manager that ask me to leave became more worried when he saw that the cops all knew me because I am a bondsman. My friend from Lynchburg, Va is Kirby Hood. he is jus a real nice guy and did not want to cause trouble.

 

[iwilleatyou]

Wow

If they have a problem with racism there that is a way bigger problem than I experienced. I thought of making an allusion to Rosa Parks in my O.P., but thought better of it. I have too much respect for the Civil Rights movement and the people that gave their lives. It was a weird experience being kicked out of business in which I had neither caused any trouble nor said anything out of line. I will never know what its like to be discriminated against for the color of my skin though. Sorry you had that happen to you Bondsman.

 

[thenuke]

Hard to believe !!!

Not saying it didn't happen, but I have been in the room 12-15 times on my three visits out to Virginia Beach. The place, Q-MASTERS is one of the best in the U.S. ! Always treated nice and always played in the backroom. Please don't badmouth one of the few rooms(and owner) that has done and still continues to do a lot for pool. I'll bet next time you are in there you will have no problem at all. Another thing, if you want to play in the back, you better play good, because they have some very good shooters. I can not believe any business in the Norfolk area does not bend over backwards for our military men and families, shoot that is their main income.

 

[bondsman]

Thanks and good luck and stay safe during your enlistment.. Its interesting that no one has said that your experience there is anything outside the norm for the attitude of the staff. if f anything in my post is anyway inaccurate I ask Barry of any employee to deny it. Policies like the one you speak of is a covert way to apply discriminatory practices as the staff or Barry see fit. A poolroom is a public place and your money should get you the same product as a "local" player. Do you believe that he check id for proof of residence before allowing someone to choose a table? Its obvious that I don't care a lot for Barry or his staff. I don't like the way I feel when I am there. If in fact the policy at the poolroom is as they explained it to you, why not put up a sign that says "we reserve the right to discriminate against military personnel and other undesirables". And thanks for your service to the country.