Does Follow And/Or Draw Effect Throw?

mnorwood

mnorwood

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This question was presented to me yesterday. In my studies and observation I can't recall any source saying that follow or draw effects throw. Just wanted to see if anyone has any thoughts.
 
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mnorwood said:
This question was presented to me yesterday. In my studies and observation I can't recall any sorse saying that follow or draw effects throw. Just wanted to see if anyone has any thoughts.
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Either follow or draw reduce throw.

Spin-induced and collision-induced throw are both about the cueball *rubbing* against the object ball.

There's only so much rubbing force to go around, so if the rub is not a perfect sideways rub (which is what a stunned cueball would give), then some of that force is in the up or down rather than sideways direction.

Throw is maximized when the cueball slides into the object ball with no forward or reverse spin.
 
mnorwood said:
This question was presented to me yesterday. In my studies and observation I can't recall any sorse saying that follow or draw effects throw. Just wanted to see if anyone has any thoughts.
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What is a sorse?
 
A sorse is a sorse, of course of course, and no one can talk to a sorse of course, unless of course you know the sorse is the famous Mr. Ed.

Go right to the source and ask the sorse, he'll give you the answer you endorse ....

Ok,ok,I went away for a minute ... I'm back :o
 
3andstop said:
A sorse is a sorse, of course of course, and no one can talk to a sorse of course, unless of course you know the sorse is the famous Mr. Ed.

Go right to the source and ask the sorse, he'll give you the answer you endorse ....

Ok,ok,I went away for a minute ... I'm back :o
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Wow, that was hysterical. REP TO YOU!
 
mnorwood said:
This question was presented to me yesterday. In my studies and observation I can't recall any source saying that follow or draw effects throw. Just wanted to see if anyone has any thoughts.
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It's been discussed a lot on the forums but I'm not sure which ones. Here's an article from Billiards Digest about it:

http://www.sfbilliards.com/articles/2006-05.pdf

As mikepage said, both follow and draw reduce throw. But you shouldn't believe me or him; you should try the experiment in the article.

Most people think about this the wrong way, assuming that the cue ball will put some kind of masse on the object ball. That may happen to a very small extent, but I don't think anyone has demonstrated it yet -- the effect is too small to see.

You should also check out Dr. Dave's articles on throw. I think he gives the details of the theory that are outlined in the above article. http://billiards.colostate.edu/
 
Jude Rosenstock said:
Caisar Sorse!!!!
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you mean this cat?
kevin_spacey.jpg
 
Bob Jewett said:
It's been discussed a lot on the forums but I'm not sure which ones. Here's an article from Billiards Digest about it:

http://www.sfbilliards.com/articles/2006-05.pdf

As mikepage said, both follow and draw reduce throw. But you shouldn't believe me or him; you should try the experiment in the article.

Most people think about this the wrong way, assuming that the cue ball will put some kind of masse on the object ball. That may happen to a very small extent, but I don't think anyone has demonstrated it yet -- the effect is too small to see.

You should also check out Dr. Dave's articles on throw. I think he gives the details of the theory that are outlined in the above article. http://billiards.colostate.edu/
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Not sure about that..as far as I know, our cues are almost never level..hence throws exist all the time, only thing is they're too small to notice..JMO.
 
Eye wood likke too taake thiss opppportunity tue thanc everione ffor corrrecting mi sppeling.

I would also like to thank the more informative posters who actually answered the question.

I would also like to point out that mike does an outstanding job on youtube. KEEP MAKING VIDEOS MIKE!

Where's my drink?????:mad:
 
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Snoogi said:
Not sure about that..as far as I know, our cues are almost never level..hence throws exist all the time, only thing is they're too small to notice..JMO.
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Are you using the word "throw" in the UK sense or the US sense? The reason I ask is that your comment about the cue not being perfectly level seems to have nothing to do with a discussion of "throw" in the US sense.

Throw: in the US this refers to the object ball not traveling along the expected line (directly away from where the cue ball strikes it) due to sideways friction of the cue ball across the object ball.

Throw: in the UK and some other snooker-playing countries, "throw" refers to the path of the cue ball not being along a line parallel to the cue stick when side spin is used. In the US, this is called squirt or deflection.

Now, you may wonder what word they use in the UK for the effect of friction between the cue ball and object ball which takes the object ball off the ideal line of the shot. So do I. Some very good players in the UK deny that there is any such effect. So do some foolish pool players.
 
gulfportdoc said:
Nice article Bob. Who is the young kid in the picture at the header??

Doc
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Taken in high school. I didn't have anything more recent.
 
Bob Jewett said:
Taken in high school. I didn't have anything more recent.
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I think this came up recently and there was a MUCH more recent picture presented. :) .... as opposed to the one used in BD.
 
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