First off no one is figuring out their vision center to the exact MM
Secondly one makes sure it's in the proper place using the method previously mentioned.
PRACTICE
Dominant Eye Question
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First off no one is figuring out their vision center to the exact MM
Secondly one makes sure it's in the proper place using the method previously mentioned.
PRACTICE
The only true test to find out which eye is dominant is the next time you see an attractive women which boob do you look at first?
Okay.
Thanks.
Gene has manual methods that work & do not really require practice. One just has to remember to do them until they become 'routine' & they no longer have to be remembered to be performed.
I will try to exit stage right.
Vaya Con Dios.
Okay.
Thanks.
Gene has manual methods that work & do not really require practice. One just has to remember to do them until they become 'routine' & they no longer have to be remembered to be performed.
I will try to exit stage right.
Vaya Con Dios.
If you have to do something more than once in order to make it routine.
that's practice
Sort of, but not exactly. Finding your vision center (whether it's under your dominant eye or not) is only as valuable as your physical ability to deliver the cue into the "straight line" that your brain and eyes perceive. Aiming is perceptual, and humans are perceptual beings...which is why everyone doesn't aim the same way. You may "see" a straight line, but if you cannot swing the cue on that same line, you will have inconsistent results.
Scott Lee
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Scott Lee
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That's because Gene only believes in playing with the cue under your dominant eye...whichever that is...which really has nothing necessarily to do with your vision center, for most of us. Bottom line, if you "see" a straight line with the cue under your dominant eye, put it there. If not, put your cue where you DO see a straight line. Then you better have a straight stroke, for consistent results.
Scott Lee
Scott Lee
Keebie...Yeah mirrors are good until you move your head to "see" yourself. Mirrors are exceptionally valuable to check your cradle pressure and your stroke finish with your body from the side. Close up video analysis is better for head on views, because the eyes can stay on the line of the shot the entire time. Then you can see EXACTLY where the player perceives a straight line, and how they line their cue up to that image. :grin:
Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com
Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com
Without now attacking someone personally or calling out names- wise words Neil! :thumbup:
Too many things have to be learnt of course- first technically- by earning the knowledge first hand-- just reading "someone s opinion"- and trying to transfer this stuff *as given* to someone can be dangerous. too many aspects have effect if we are talking about about especially about the dominant eye. I think i know for sure something about it (also because i m almost "one eyed" like Niels)- but i m very careful to work with a student "too fast" on a dominant eye problem. To find out his real problem (does he really has an eye problem? Just head in wrong position? Is he doing this for decades (that s the worst case- sometimes never to correct)- )
To find a solution to bring someone hittin vertical axis in the case he s not hitting the vertical axis after a long times....can be a pure pain in the ass....FOR THE STUDENT. In such a case (just one example of many what it could be) the brain is so used to do it...by thinkin he s hittin it dead center- believe me, it s sometimes almost undoable.
i drifted of a bit-sorry- i m totally with you Neil. By trying to fix a problem about the dominant eye you have to be really really knowledged- and everyone who calls himself an instructor, teacher, or whatever....will tell the student, that if he would really decide to fix this- ...that it s not sure, if he could ever make it there.
Teach what you know- learn what you don t- that s it
This requires having an open mind!
have a smooth stroke everyone.
best wishes from overseas.
Great post Ingo! I especially liked the bolded part! :thumbup:
Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com
Thank you Scott,
i had this "not so nice expirience" already with two extremly strong players- winners....champions.
Both had been told, that if they would decide to try to fix *this vision problem*, that it could take a long time- and that they would for sure be in a f...ng long slump.
One listened and believed me-- the 2nd tried to work on his own on this topic- and ran 2-3 months later into the wall- on a very important big international tournament. An issue like this (oh stop. that s my subjective opinion from my expirience
) CANNOT be solved by himself- imo neverever. This needs help- and will take a longer time (IF IF it works...). And before an rocket science professor or another atom-physician trys to discuss about this. I am just talking about the case, that if someone has this *issue* that he s not able to see the true center- and this over years. Then this guy cannot be just "healed" by puttin his head one time towards the correct point.
that would be plain bullshit.
sorry, for the harsh words. but i really don t like what i read here in some *responses*- which just show me, that some are talking about things where they have absolutley no clue about.
may everyone have a smooth stroke.
One could have the most straight & consistently repeatable stroke ever in ALL of history...
& if they can NOT discern a straight line...
then they can not put that perfect stroke on a straight line & that perfect stroke is useless.
Gene never once told me to put the cue under any eye. I think there are a few that try to discredit him for some unknown ulterior motive or agenda or out of ignorance of what he actually knows & talks about.
All Best Wishes for ALL.
& if they can NOT discern a straight line...
then they can not put that perfect stroke on a straight line & that perfect stroke is useless.
Gene never once told me to put the cue under any eye. I think there are a few that try to discredit him for some unknown ulterior motive or agenda or out of ignorance of what he actually knows & talks about.
All Best Wishes for ALL.
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prac·tice
ˈpraktəs/Submit
noun
repeated exercise in or performance of an activity or skill so as to acquire or maintain proficiency in it.
"it must have taken a lot of practice to become so fluent"
synonyms: training, rehearsal, repetition, preparation; More
Gene's methods work the first time. There is no need to practice them.
When one has played a certain way for decades, playing differently is difficult.
It is NOT practicing it. It is merely remembering to implement it.
It is like pitching when one can throw a fast ball, a slider, a change up, or a curve ball.
One of them is selected & then pitched.
So... do I shoot this shot my old way or do I shoot it the way Gene has given me to shoot it.
It's NOT about practicing it.
ˈpraktəs/Submit
noun
repeated exercise in or performance of an activity or skill so as to acquire or maintain proficiency in it.
"it must have taken a lot of practice to become so fluent"
synonyms: training, rehearsal, repetition, preparation; More
Gene's methods work the first time. There is no need to practice them.
When one has played a certain way for decades, playing differently is difficult.
It is NOT practicing it. It is merely remembering to implement it.
It is like pitching when one can throw a fast ball, a slider, a change up, or a curve ball.
One of them is selected & then pitched.
So... do I shoot this shot my old way or do I shoot it the way Gene has given me to shoot it.
It's NOT about practicing it.
Poor analogy, using pitching as an example. Doesn't a pitcher practice thousands of these pitches before using it in a real game? I mean one is not just told or shown how to throw a curve ball, and then throw it in a game without practicing it do they?
I guess the hard part is to remember doing it in the heat of battle, is that not a problem for you? For most of us mere mortals, that is why we practice, to something (what ever it is) repeatable, and consistent every time.
What happens when you forget to implement it, and do you think if one practices his method they will automatically do it every time without thought?
I guess the hard part is to remember doing it in the heat of battle, is that not a problem for you? For most of us mere mortals, that is why we practice, to something (what ever it is) repeatable, and consistent every time.
What happens when you forget to implement it, and do you think if one practices his method they will automatically do it every time without thought?
Ok..........
If examples are given & one is told how to throw a curve ball & one executes it the first time, one usually says something like, 'Okay, I got it.'.
The method works. The individual now knows how to execute the throwing of a curve ball. They do NOT need to practice HOW to throw a curve ball.
They only practice to increase the parameters & to garner accuracy of the placement.
What Gene teaches is NOT like a curve ball in that there are no parameters to increase & no placements to enhances.
It's do it or don't do it.
Throw a curve ball or don't throw a curve ball.
Use the method or don't use the method.
That decision process does NOT require "practice".
How does one "practice" the heat of battle... other than by being in the heat of battle.
Coaches value non real games because that is the closet they can get players into the real heat of battle without being in the real heat of battle.
Practice means virtually nothing as it relates to actually playing the game.
Practice is for learning what to do & to become proficient in doing those components. Practice is NOT playing the game.
Am I saying practice should not be done? That depends on the individual.
I think too many try to impose themselves on others. Practice can be a means of garnering confidence.
There can be two players of equal proficiency levels & one will 'need' to practice while another may never practice. One has confidence while the other needs to build confidence.
They may split match ups with each winning 50% of the time. Or...
Sometimes one or the other of those two will dominate the other one of 'equal' proficiency. It might be either one over the other.
There is solidly based confidence & there is false confidence.
I've gone off track here, but Gene's methods need no practice other than choosing to implement them one shot upon the next.
Much like using english or not using english.
Naturally over time one might come to a point where it is "second nature" & no choice is really 'required' & it would actually be reversed & one would have to choose not to use that method.
But "Practice"? No, not really. How many shots would it take to overcome the more than a million already hit using another method?
None is required. It's a decision. I will use this method here & now for this shot because it works. I need not practice it to get it to work or to get it to work "better". It works. Use it or don't use it.
I know that some will not be able to see & understand this. That's fine.
For those that are more open & can see & understand it. Then they've got it & that's fine too.
ALL Best Wishes for ALL.
PS It's because of Gene's manual methods that asked about the HOW regarding the 'vision center' thing... & I have gotten no real answer. It is much like a 3 letter acronym for aiming in that regard.
The method works. The individual now knows how to execute the throwing of a curve ball. They do NOT need to practice HOW to throw a curve ball.
They only practice to increase the parameters & to garner accuracy of the placement.
What Gene teaches is NOT like a curve ball in that there are no parameters to increase & no placements to enhances.
It's do it or don't do it.
Throw a curve ball or don't throw a curve ball.
Use the method or don't use the method.
That decision process does NOT require "practice".
How does one "practice" the heat of battle... other than by being in the heat of battle.
Coaches value non real games because that is the closet they can get players into the real heat of battle without being in the real heat of battle.
Practice means virtually nothing as it relates to actually playing the game.
Practice is for learning what to do & to become proficient in doing those components. Practice is NOT playing the game.
Am I saying practice should not be done? That depends on the individual.
I think too many try to impose themselves on others. Practice can be a means of garnering confidence.
There can be two players of equal proficiency levels & one will 'need' to practice while another may never practice. One has confidence while the other needs to build confidence.
They may split match ups with each winning 50% of the time. Or...
Sometimes one or the other of those two will dominate the other one of 'equal' proficiency. It might be either one over the other.
There is solidly based confidence & there is false confidence.
I've gone off track here, but Gene's methods need no practice other than choosing to implement them one shot upon the next.
Much like using english or not using english.
Naturally over time one might come to a point where it is "second nature" & no choice is really 'required' & it would actually be reversed & one would have to choose not to use that method.
But "Practice"? No, not really. How many shots would it take to overcome the more than a million already hit using another method?
None is required. It's a decision. I will use this method here & now for this shot because it works. I need not practice it to get it to work or to get it to work "better". It works. Use it or don't use it.
I know that some will not be able to see & understand this. That's fine.
For those that are more open & can see & understand it. Then they've got it & that's fine too.
ALL Best Wishes for ALL.
PS It's because of Gene's manual methods that asked about the HOW regarding the 'vision center' thing... & I have gotten no real answer. It is much like a 3 letter acronym for aiming in that regard.
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Ok............
Ok............
I would guess that you are one of the ones that do NOT get it. That's fine.
You proved that you are one of the ones that do not get it.
There was no need for that, but thanks anyway.
Vaya con Dios
Please explain
Sorry, No! Your'e just being disingenuous & doing that "T" thing.
I've been advised by a management member that I should ignore all such behavior.
Vaya con Dios.
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