Dont buy a Stinger Jump Break

djpstacked03 said:
:smile: I recently took a trip to Seyberts in coldwater Michigan. I was in need of a Jump Break cue and a close friend of mine said that they work sweet. Mind you he mentioned this a couple of years ago. I asked the guy at Seyberts if he had one and he told me not to bother with them. He said that the tips have been coming off and the quality was definately not there. Since they switched from the Jerico cue maker to McDermott they have been no good. Anyway the guy mentioned trying out the poison Jump Break. Damn what a great cue. Nice stiff hit and feel. I found it easier to jump than my bunjee cue. Ran me about 200 bucks and more than worth it. Hope this has been helpful.
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Probably should have specified that you're talking about the McDermott Stinger in the title of the post so as not to get that cue confused with the Stinger Pro - still produced by Jerry in Clyde, TX.
When the McD version was coming out I talked at length with him about it and while it does use his tip/ferrule technology, it's not the same as the Pro model. Let alone the fact that it's mass produced, it also doesn't have the same shaft or joints Jerry uses.
Would hate for possible buyers to get a mixed message about the two.

Mike
 
I'm glad you cleared this up...

I was getting completely confused about who was building what. I know that Jerry (Jerico Cues) sells a top notch product and ALWAYS stands behind what he builds. I guess he let Mcdermott license the name and cue????? I'm sure he(jerry) wanted to sell more cues but hopefully this is an aberration from McDermott and the quality they're producing does not affect Jerico Cues by extension...

I play with a Jerico "whip" which was the precursor to the Stinger and it's GREAT!!!! Breaks sold and jumps so well that I just retired my Bungee ( which I thought would never happen)




Sompin2do said:
Probably should have specified that you're talking about the McDermott Stinger in the title of the post so as not to get that cue confused with the Stinger Pro - still produced by Jerry in Clyde, TX.
When the McD version was coming out I talked at length with him about it and while it does use his tip/ferrule technology, it's not the same as the Pro model. Let alone the fact that it's mass produced, it also doesn't have the same shaft or joints Jerry uses.
Would hate for possible buyers to get a mixed message about the two.

Mike
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The Poison jump/break cue is brilliant! I've had it for like 5, almost 6 months now, and I like it much more than the Predator BK2! The grip is great, and the design of the whole cue is really cool. Easy to jump with to.
 
djpstacked03 said:
:smile: I recently took a trip to Seyberts in coldwater Michigan. I was in need of a Jump Break cue and a close friend of mine said that they work sweet. Mind you he mentioned this a couple of years ago. I asked the guy at Seyberts if he had one and he told me not to bother with them. He said that the tips have been coming off and the quality was definately not there. Since they switched from the Jerico cue maker to McDermott they have been no good. Anyway the guy mentioned trying out the poison Jump Break. Damn what a great cue. Nice stiff hit and feel. I found it easier to jump than my bunjee cue. Ran me about 200 bucks and more than worth it. Hope this has been helpful.
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Is it me or does this come off as an advertisement for the poison j/b. This guy doesn't even say that he hit with a stinger, just that 'he heard" they weren't good.
 
djpstacked03 said:
.Hey if someone at a billiard store is telling you that they are having quality problems with a certain type of cue Im going to listen. .
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Unless hes trying to sell you a different stick. He has to make a living too.
 
Seems to me that someone had an agenda, running to the forums with info he had "heard". Why not just ask if anyone had any experience with the new Stinger cues that are being produced by McD.

This is our industry, sell something, no matter what it takes, even if it includes bashing, knocking, starting unfound rumors,etc.

You would be hard pressed to find a jump/break cue custom or production that is better than a Stinger. PERIOD.
 
Rockin' Robin said:
Seems to me that someone had an agenda, running to the forums with info he had "heard". Why not just ask if anyone had any experience with the new Stinger cues that are being produced by McD.

This is our industry, sell something, no matter what it takes, even if it includes bashing, knocking, starting unfound rumors,etc.

You would be hard pressed to find a jump/break cue custom or production that is better than a Stinger. PERIOD.
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No. No. Not info I heard. Info I was told by a Seyberts worker first hand jackass. Why is everyone so viscious is this forum? If you have a Stinger and it works great than good for you. I just thought that some people on the forum might be interested in what I was told before considering buying a stinger. I know that if I was going to buy a car from a dealership and the salesman told me that the car I wanted was nothing but problems it would probably be a good idea to take their advice or at least with a grain of salt. Also when I asked to try out the stinger I did not say the McDermott stinger. If you guys think that I am full of shit give Seyberts a call and ask them what they have to say about the Stinger. Maybe this opinion was only from the individual I spoke to but not from the other co-workers. Also im not advertising the poison jump break. But I did buy one and yes I am pleased with it.
 
The "Stingers" that are on Sebert's website under the Jump/Break cues are not McD Stingers. They are the Jerico SG-1 series...

So this is even more of a question... Was the person at Seybert's complaining about the Jerico SG-1 Stinger's that they sell, or the McD ones that they don't appear to sell (at least they aren't on their website...).

If it is the ones that they sell, I'm sure that Jerry would love to know that someone at Seybert's is dissing his cues...

Brian
 
first of all....

I'm pretty sure the childish name calling is TOTALLY OUT OF LINE HERE ... and just for the record your thread title "don't buy a Stinger Jump Break" does not sound like someone making sure forum members interested in the Stinger were "informed" I think that's what your so called "viciousness" ( kinda mild if you ask me) is all about. you did not ask for other users opinions, ideas, or suggestions about this cue you were "supposedly" interested in. you apparently repeated what someone else said (I don't care where they work) You made a STATEMENT (somewhat inflamatory) about the product, not an informative or inquiring post IMO


djpstacked03 said:
No. No. Not info I heard. Info I was told by a Seyberts worker first hand jackass. Why is everyone so viscious is this forum? If you have a Stinger and it works great than good for you. I just thought that some people on the forum might be interested in what I was told before considering buying a stinger. I know that if I was going to buy a car from a dealership and the salesman told me that the car I wanted was nothing but problems it would probably be a good idea to take their advice or at least with a grain of salt. Also when I asked to try out the stinger I did not say the McDermott stinger. If you guys think that I am full of shit give Seyberts a call and ask them what they have to say about the Stinger. Maybe this opinion was only from the individual I spoke to but not from the other co-workers. Also im not advertising the poison jump break. But I did buy one and yes I am pleased with it.
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Ive never owned a stinger, But if you got one made by McD and you had a problem, they would definiteley make it right. They are as good as any company about standing behind their products IMO.

Also, which poison J/B are you talking about. the VX?
 
djpstacked03 said:
No. No. Not info I heard. Info I was told by a Seyberts worker first hand jackass.
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Uh, let's see...someone TOLD you this, so obviously you LISTENED, therefore you HEARD them speak. Yep, you HEARD them say that. Let me guess, you also forward all those emails about "gang initiations at the mall", the "missing kid, please send this to all your friends", and probably "look out, there's a new vicious virus going around that will destroy your computer" emails, don't you?

djpstacked03 said:
Why is everyone so viscious is this forum?
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Again, let's see...someone TOLD you their opinion, and you run to the forum and proclaim "don't buy a Stinger Jump Break, I heard they have problems" as if it were fact or highly important. :rolleyes: You didn't buy one, you don't own one, you haven't had any actual problems with one, you merely HEARD one person's opinion, which is totally contradicted by what many more people here are stating. Who's the jackass now, moron?

djpstacked03 said:
If you have a Stinger and it works great than good for you. I just thought that some people on the forum might be interested in what I was told before considering buying a stinger. I know that if I was going to buy a car from a dealership and the salesman told me that the car I wanted was nothing but problems it would probably be a good idea to take their advice or at least with a grain of salt.
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Wow...you really know NOTHING about sales, do you? If you want to buy A, but the salesman wants to sell you B, what do you think he's gonna do? Of COURSE he's going to say things like "A has problems, B is SO much better..." :rolleyes:

So no, actually, I'm pretty sure no one is really "interested" in what you were "told". :banghead: You have ZERO data to back up any of the "claims" you were HEARD from ONE person, yet there's plenty of people who have either had NO trouble with the Stinger from McDermott, or if they did (as in the case of the broken shaft), McDermott's top-notch warranty took care of the problem.

My take? I'm willing to bet whomever @ Seyberts was making a higher commission off the Poison j/b, and when you said you wanted to buy a Stinger, he thought "I'll say they're crap, and sell him a Poison instead. Cha-ching!" :rolleyes:

Maybe you wouldn't be getting flamed if you had said "I was told the McDermott Stinger had problems, is this true?", rather than trying to proclaim as facts what are actually OPINIONS you HEARD from ONE person who was trying to SELL YOU A DIFFERENT CUE.
 
What he said!

007 said:
Uh, let's see...someone TOLD you this, so obviously you LISTENED, therefore you HEARD them speak. Yep, you HEARD them say that. Let me guess, you also forward all those emails about "gang initiations at the mall", the "missing kid, please send this to all your friends", and probably "look out, there's a new vicious virus going around that will destroy your computer" emails, don't you?

Again, let's see...someone TOLD you their opinion, and you run to the forum and proclaim "don't buy a Stinger Jump Break, I heard they have problems" as if it were fact or highly important. :rolleyes: You didn't buy one, you don't own one, you haven't had any actual problems with one, you merely HEARD one person's opinion, which is totally contradicted by what many more people here are stating. Who's the jackass now, moron?

Wow...you really know NOTHING about sales, do you? If you want to buy A, but the salesman wants to sell you B, what do you think he's gonna do? Of COURSE he's going to say things like "A has problems, B is SO much better..." :rolleyes:

So no, actually, I'm pretty sure no one is really "interested" in what you were "told". :banghead: You have ZERO data to back up any of the "claims" you were HEARD from ONE person, yet there's plenty of people who have either had NO trouble with the Stinger from McDermott, or if they did (as in the case of the broken shaft), McDermott's top-notch warranty took care of the problem.

My take? I'm willing to bet whomever @ Seyberts was making a higher commission off the Poison j/b, and when you said you wanted to buy a Stinger, he thought "I'll say they're crap, and sell him a Poison instead. Cha-ching!" :rolleyes:

Maybe you wouldn't be getting flamed if you had said "I was told the McDermott Stinger had problems, is this true?", rather than trying to proclaim as facts what are actually OPINIONS you HEARD from ONE person who was trying to SELL YOU A DIFFERENT CUE.
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This just about says it all IMO especially the line about the Seybert's sales person making more commish on the poison cue!! Today's special is the best U can buy 4 sure!!!
Good Post!!
 
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This thread is a PRIME example of why this forum pretty much sucks now. The original poster relayed what he was told by Seyberts, and he got ripped apart for it. Everybody saying he has an agenda....... WTF. He relayed a statement, and the jackass comment, though not entirely appropriate, was after his character was attacked.
Too many people on this forum, are here to bicker and fight rather than discuss POOL.
Very sad.
Chuck
 
RiverCity said:
This thread is a PRIME example of why this forum pretty much sucks now. The original poster relayed what he was told by Seyberts, and he got ripped apart for it. Everybody saying he has an agenda....... WTF. He relayed a statement, and the jackass comment, though not entirely appropriate, was after his character was attacked.
Too many people on this forum, are here to bicker and fight rather than discuss POOL.
Very sad.
Chuck
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What he said.
 
WOW...what a joke. A very bad joke at that. Vicious attacks? Maybe, probably, certainly deserved.


Being a cue dealer, and having a nice stock of Stingers, imagine my surprise when I saw the title to this thread. It should never have been permitted without further proof or evidence. However there it is in black and white in the title.

If the moderators could change the title of the thread, I , for one, would greatly appeciate it. Then maybe we could discuss the merits of the cue.

Thanks....
 
007 said:
Uh, let's see...someone TOLD you this, so obviously you LISTENED, therefore you HEARD them speak. Yep, you HEARD them say that. Let me guess, you also forward all those emails about "gang initiations at the mall", the "missing kid, please send this to all your friends", and probably "look out, there's a new vicious virus going around that will destroy your computer" emails, don't you?

Again, let's see...someone TOLD you their opinion, and you run to the forum and proclaim "don't buy a Stinger Jump Break, I heard they have problems" as if it were fact or highly important. :rolleyes: You didn't buy one, you don't own one, you haven't had any actual problems with one, you merely HEARD one person's opinion, which is totally contradicted by what many more people here are stating. Who's the jackass now, moron?

Wow...you really know NOTHING about sales, do you? If you want to buy A, but the salesman wants to sell you B, what do you think he's gonna do? Of COURSE he's going to say things like "A has problems, B is SO much better..." :rolleyes:

So no, actually, I'm pretty sure no one is really "interested" in what you were "told". :banghead: You have ZERO data to back up any of the "claims" you were HEARD from ONE person, yet there's plenty of people who have either had NO trouble with the Stinger from McDermott, or if they did (as in the case of the broken shaft), McDermott's top-notch warranty took care of the problem.

My take? I'm willing to bet whomever @ Seyberts was making a higher commission off the Poison j/b, and when you said you wanted to buy a Stinger, he thought "I'll say they're crap, and sell him a Poison instead. Cha-ching!" :rolleyes:

Maybe you wouldn't be getting flamed if you had said "I was told the McDermott Stinger had problems, is this true?", rather than trying to proclaim as facts what are actually OPINIONS you HEARD from ONE person who was trying to SELL YOU A DIFFERENT CUE.
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that's what i was thinking but you said it a lot better than i would have
 
RiverCity said:
This thread is a PRIME example of why this forum pretty much sucks now. The original poster relayed what he was told by Seyberts, and he got ripped apart for it. Everybody saying he has an agenda....... WTF. He relayed a statement, and the jackass comment, though not entirely appropriate, was after his character was attacked.
Too many people on this forum, are here to bicker and fight rather than discuss POOL.
Very sad.
Chuck
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it does make sense that a salesman for seyberts might have a reason to want to move more poison J/B's so he says what he has to to talk people out of buying what ever j/b they're interested in
 
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