Dont buy a Stinger Jump Break

I've never had a problem with any of the Jericho's that I've owned over the years.
If I'm in the market for another Stinger I call Jerry, not someone further down the food chain working on commision, and possibly not having the same feelings and choices that I do.
McDermott makes a good product and has for over 30 years, but since I haven't tried their version of the Stinger I have no opinion on that one yet.
I have found their quality missing in other cuemakers they tried to incorporate,like Bludworth, but maybe I'm biased over ther personal quality of the cuemakers, not a production line.
I do however agree that a distinction should have been made in the title, and opinons maybe rallied over experience with it, and a discussion created, rather than drawing interest by insinuating that Jerry Powers doesn't know his job.
Quality control in mass produced items is seriously lacking in most areas these days, not just in cues.
If you get a cue from McDermott, you call them, send it in, and they make it right.
If you order a custom cue, there is a different version of QC involved.
They want to know if there is a problem, so that they can improve upon the area in question, at least in the cuemakers that I've known.
There is experimenting with newer products available, and unless informed of it, they don't get the feedback to continue or discontinue something new.
Just my .02 worth, but I never heard of a problem with Jerry Powers Stingers, and I doubt that I ever would. He's too good at what he does, and stands by what he says when you talk to him, not an operator standing ready....
I wish you luck with the cue that you now are trying out, and hope that the results are favorable.
Maybe even another posting sometime to share your findings on it.
 
My first thought was that they were pushing the poison line, and an overzelous sales guy was after whatever incentive was being offered.

My next thought was, what was the price difference between the 2 cues? Was the Stinger more expensive?

:cool:
 
Let me try to shed some light on this. I spoke with the manager at Seyberts. They have been a top Jerico Stinger dealer for many years. Yes, McDermott licensed Jerico (Jerry Powers) technology and the Stinger name, so they could produce Stingers that could sell for less. Mass production is, of course, much cheaper than the small, hand-made batches produced by Jerico.

Well, McDermott tried to cut some corners, and did not follow Jerry's instructions. So, their first batches of McDermott Stingers had problems. Chunks of tip were breaking off, etc. McDermott is making good on those problems, and correcting their manufacturing processes accordingly. The McDermott Stingers work very well, and the problems should be corrected by now.

Seyberts received an early batch and experienced those problems. So, of course, they recommended another product in the interim. They still sell Jerico Stingers, but did not have any in stock.

If you would like an original Jerico Stinger, I am still the distributor for Jerico jumpbreaks, and can hook you up with either the Pro model (jump/break only) or the All-in-One model (jump/break/play).
 
RiverCity said:
Thank you Tom!
I believe some people owe the original poster an appology.
Chuck
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I agree. I'm sorry he's a moron. :deadhorse:

If anything, the "employee at Seyberts" owes McDermott an apology. Even if their first batch had problems, McDermott has addressed the issue, and their top-notch customer service never fails to satisfy the customer. As Tom said, they shouldn't be having any problems now, and as such the "Seyberts employee" should have relayed THAT information, but failed to do so. :rolleyes:
 
RiverCity said:
Thank you Tom!
I believe some people owe the original poster an appology.
Chuck
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Apology? For what? The title of the thread was "Dont buy a stinger jump break" and this guy has never even hit with one.

I know a guy who swears Southwests hit like crap. Should I start a thread saying dont buy a southwest? I agree with the poster who said if anything its seyberts who owes mcdermott an apology, Mcdermott stands behind there product seyberts should stand behind theyre cuemakers. Not bash em cause of a few production problems.
 
djpstacked03 said:
:smile: I recently took a trip to Seyberts in coldwater Michigan. I was in need of a Jump Break cue and a close friend of mine said that they work sweet. Mind you he mentioned this a couple of years ago. I asked the guy at Seyberts if he had one and he told me not to bother with them. He said that the tips have been coming off and the quality was definately not there. Since they switched from the Jerico cue maker to McDermott they have been no good. Anyway the guy mentioned trying out the poison Jump Break. Damn what a great cue. Nice stiff hit and feel. I found it easier to jump than my bunjee cue. Ran me about 200 bucks and more than worth it. Hope this has been helpful.
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I don't believe you are in a position to sway people from using a particular cue when you've never shot with it yourself. I'm happy you found a jump break you're happy with, though!
 
Rockin' Robin said:
You would be hard pressed to find a jump/break cue custom or production that is better than a Stinger. PERIOD.
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I have used virtually evrey kind of B/J cue mass produces or made custom to order and I am still willing to say;

I will gladly put my OMEN Grey Ghost up against any B/J cue...PERIOD.
 
Why?????
Jesus H Christ
The guy goes to a very reputable dealer, wanting to buy a Stinger. The salesman tells him there are quality issues with them, and that he should not bother to buy one of them. Then he comes on here to relay the message, basically doing this forum what he felt was a favor; based on the advise he was given by a REPUTABLE DEALER..... And you people attack him, tell him he has an agenda, or that the dealer had an agenda.... you repped him until he was completely red... you call him names... .and you ask why you owe him an apology???????
Figure it out on your own.
Again.... this is what is wrong with this forum nowadays.
Chuck
 
Tom Simpson said:
Let me try to shed some light on this. I spoke with the manager at Seyberts. They have been a top Jerico Stinger dealer for many years. Yes, McDermott licensed Jerico (Jerry Powers) technology and the Stinger name, so they could produce Stingers that could sell for less. Mass production is, of course, much cheaper than the small, hand-made batches produced by Jerico.

Well, McDermott tried to cut some corners, and did not follow Jerry's instructions. So, their first batches of McDermott Stingers had problems. Chunks of tip were breaking off, etc. McDermott is making good on those problems, and correcting their manufacturing processes accordingly. The McDermott Stingers work very well, and the problems should be corrected by now.

Seyberts received an early batch and experienced those problems. So, of course, they recommended another product in the interim. They still sell Jerico Stingers, but did not have any in stock.

If you would like an original Jerico Stinger, I am still the distributor for Jerico jumpbreaks, and can hook you up with either the Pro model (jump/break only) or the All-in-One model (jump/break/play).
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That makes sense. Thanks for clearing everything up
 
Tom Simpson said:
Let me try to shed some light on this. I spoke with the manager at Seyberts. They have been a top Jerico Stinger dealer for many years. Yes, McDermott licensed Jerico (Jerry Powers) technology and the Stinger name, so they could produce Stingers that could sell for less. Mass production is, of course, much cheaper than the small, hand-made batches produced by Jerico.

Well, McDermott tried to cut some corners, and did not follow Jerry's instructions. So, their first batches of McDermott Stingers had problems. Chunks of tip were breaking off, etc. McDermott is making good on those problems, and correcting their manufacturing processes accordingly. The McDermott Stingers work very well, and the problems should be corrected by now.

Seyberts received an early batch and experienced those problems. So, of course, they recommended another product in the interim. They still sell Jerico Stingers, but did not have any in stock.

If you would like an original Jerico Stinger, I am still the distributor for Jerico jumpbreaks, and can hook you up with either the Pro model (jump/break only) or the All-in-One model (jump/break/play).
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Thank you Tom for clarifying the situation.
 
Hello everyone,

My name is Sid Kreis and I am one of the owners of Seybert?s. I was the fortunate one that got the call to help the gentleman with a jump cue purchase.

He came in and asked for a Stinger jump break cue.

We bought 18 Stingers from McDermott when they were first made.

We sold 10 of them, and 6 were returned with broken tips. Of the 6 that we replaced and returned to the customers, 2 of those came back again with the same broken tip.

There is no way I was going to send this customer (who drove down from Canada) a cue that we have had problems with. Why would I ever do that?

(No matter what size commission I decided to pay myself)

At our Coldwater Store, Rick and I both play with the Poison break jump cue. It is what we choose to use because we like it. As it is my favorite break cue, I suggested it to my customer. He tested it and broke like a champ with it and bought it.

I went home and ate pizza.

Of course McDermott will honor the warranty of the Stingers that have this problem. Of course McDermott will fix the problem with the next batch. At that time, all I had was the Stingers that I did not have faith in and there was no way I was going to sell a cue I knew to have problems.

Trust me, you can buy anything you like if you visit our store in Coldwater, we don?t work on commissions, we just simply do the best we can to take care of the customer. (We take a great deal of pride in our customer service.)

In closing, I apologize to whoever might think I owe them an apology, but I suggested something that I thought was best for my customer and he seems to be happy with it. That is all I can do.

P.S. I was totally satisfied with my pizza as well.
 
TXsouthpaw said:
I know a guy who swears Southwests hit like crap.
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Sorry, that would have been me. I think Southwests are good for nothing but holding up the roses in my garden. Therefore if any fool is still trying to play with one and wondering why they miss all the time please just send it to me for ecologically friendly disposal. I'll even pay the postage ;0)

No, but seriously folks, the original poster relayed what turned out to be valid comment about a valid manufacturing issue. He didn't have to own one or even to have hit with one to relay this comment. The main mistakes made were in the pejorative language used in the title (although of course this did get us all to look at it) and in the lack of making an attempt to verify the information prior to posting it.
 
I have not taken the time to read every post here but I just wanted to add my opinion of the Stinger break jump cue . I have no experience with the McDermott made Stingers so I can't add anything to that . I do however have experience with the Stingers made by Jerry himself and I can say they are awesome break jump cues . I currently have a coco Stinger and love it .
Customer service from Jerry is top notch if you have ever talked to Jerry i'm sure you would agree he loves what he does and stands behind his work %110 . If I was looking for a great break jump cue I would not hesitate to buy a Stinger !!!

Larry < > Shows his stinger to all the ladies :thumbup:
 
sid said:
Hello everyone,

My name is Sid Kreis and I am one of the owners of Seybert?s. I was the fortunate one that got the call to help the gentleman with a jump cue purchase.

He came in and asked for a Stinger jump break cue.

We bought 18 Stingers from McDermott when they were first made.

We sold 10 of them, and 6 were returned with broken tips. Of the 6 that we replaced and returned to the customers, 2 of those came back again with the same broken tip.

There is no way I was going to send this customer (who drove down from Canada) a cue that we have had problems with. Why would I ever do that?

(No matter what size commission I decided to pay myself)

At our Coldwater Store, Rick and I both play with the Poison break jump cue. It is what we choose to use because we like it. As it is my favorite break cue, I suggested it to my customer. He tested it and broke like a champ with it and bought it.

I went home and ate pizza.

Of course McDermott will honor the warranty of the Stingers that have this problem. Of course McDermott will fix the problem with the next batch. At that time, all I had was the Stingers that I did not have faith in and there was no way I was going to sell a cue I knew to have problems.

Trust me, you can buy anything you like if you visit our store in Coldwater, we don?t work on commissions, we just simply do the best we can to take care of the customer. (We take a great deal of pride in our customer service.)

In closing, I apologize to whoever might think I owe them an apology, but I suggested something that I thought was best for my customer and he seems to be happy with it. That is all I can do.

P.S. I was totally satisfied with my pizza as well.
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Thanks Sid Kreis. I appreciate your honesty and professionalism for how you handled the situation. I will definately continue to be a customer of Seyberts.:thumbup:
 
Originally Posted by $TAKE HOR$E
That X-Breaker jump cue will jump balls by itself


manwon said:
It learned to do that from the owner of company!!!!
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What manwon said ! He took $350 of my hard earned cash with him :mad:...Tom
 
Funny

Things like this are why I always do my own research on products and form my own conclusions. People ask me what I play with and what is the best, and I just offer to let them try what I have if I think I can trust them to be responsible. I have found that the old saying applies; opinions are like.... Sooooo for what it's worth, do your own research and form your own conclusions. JMHO
Larry
 
Break Cue & Jump Cues

Well I have been hard-pressed to find a better breaking cue than the 19oz wall models found in pool halls all across America..... As for jumping...there are definitely models that are better than other for this purpose and technology has really added to this part of the game.

I just recently upgraded my equipment. I was playing with the same Sneaky Pete Meucci that I had bought at the ripe old age of 23.... I just turned 36. Thus I used the same cue for 13 years. Never owned a break cue or jump cue until recently. I cannot say assuredly that the break cue has improved my game any...I think I just break the balls better now. As for my jump cue...it has definitely aided me in situations where my opponent thought I was hooked. For my playing cue, I now play with a used McDermott that I paid $100 for back in January. I will eventually check out other break cues but I just cannot see paying more than $100 for a cue that I use maybe once per game.
 
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