Dr. Dave SAWS calibration
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People can also PM or e-mail me questions about SAWS anytime, especially those who might prefer a more private and respectful setting.
I can't even imagine how much greater the records of Mosconi, Efren, Earl, (the list goes on and on) would have been if
they knew all of this stuff. They were like cavemen in their development and play.
Are there any plans for a Reader's Digest version of SAWS?
Respectful setting? When has there been such a thing for a couple of other men and users of a method of play over almost the last 30 years on this forum and others? Maybe FB is the answer with control over who, what, and how subject matter can be
discussed without mudslinging and wars. It has worked super so far.
they knew all of this stuff. They were like cavemen in their development and play.
Are there any plans for a Reader's Digest version of SAWS?
Respectful setting? When has there been such a thing for a couple of other men and users of a method of play over almost the last 30 years on this forum and others? Maybe FB is the answer with control over who, what, and how subject matter can be
discussed without mudslinging and wars. It has worked super so far.
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Here’s a pertinent quote from the SAWS resource page for why pro players don’t use a system like SAWS:
“Top players with lots of experience don’t need techniques like this. They instinctively know how to align the cue to compensate for squirt, swerve, and throw, and they come down into the stance with the cue already in the correct direction for shots of various distances, angles, amounts and types of spin, and speeds. However, for those who do not already have perfect intuition for aiming with sidespin, the SAWS BHE/FHE techniques can be useful and effective. And over time, if you pay attention to how you aim the cue for different types of shots (using SAWS), you will eventually build you own pro-like intuition.”
Makes sense. I would never have read it otherwise. The full content might not make sense to a lot of newbies either.
the mumbo jumbo is at an all time high
SAWS sounds like “mumbo jumbo,” but the “System for Aiming With Sidespin” is just a simple and methodical method to find accurate lines of aim for sidespin shots of any distance, speed, and amount of spin. And it works with any cue and any bridge length. And it has simple built-in adjustments for top/bottom spin and table conditions. The best thing is SAWS doesn’t require any feel/judgement/intuition (for all squirt/swerve/throw effects) that otherwise takes countless hours of trial-and-error practice and successful experience to develop. Although, it does require a straight stroke and the ability to aim center-ball shots accurately.
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more mumbo jumbo to explain the mumbo jumbo
If that’s what you think, then SAWS is probably not for you (or others who might think like you do).
yeah i couldnt understand anything you typed
just lots of words
complicated methods and information is hard to digest. so each person according to their desire to improve and their mental acuity have to decide for themselves if it is worth their time to indulge .
sometimes it is hard to say, hey that guy is smarter than me and i should pay attention to what he says.
sometimes it is hard to say, hey that guy is smarter than me and i should pay attention to what he says.
The "feel" brings to mind the difference I notice in playing Left and Right handed. Right being my dominant hand is analytical and likes numbers. The Left is more feeling and flowing. Kind of like grandma cooking. A pinch of this or a touch of that whereas the right measures the half a teaspoon.
One last comment. 
(yeah sure).
If I am faced with an incredibly difficult do or die situation....Lefty gets the nod if the setup and bridge is equal. My normal (perhaps not the best choice of words for an able normal person) choice of shooting hand is dictated by the lay of the table. Often just continue with the hand it's in.
(yeah sure). If I am faced with an incredibly difficult do or die situation....Lefty gets the nod if the setup and bridge is equal. My normal (perhaps not the best choice of words for an able normal person) choice of shooting hand is dictated by the lay of the table. Often just continue with the hand it's in.
Not less nervous but better fundamentals with the left. I was well into my self education when I started with the left. The right had some less than optimal habits that are ingrained. Starting out Left, had no bad habits to overcome pluss better fundamentals. My theory is good habits are easiest to make when there are no bad habits to break. Under stress the auto pilot mode with the strongest fundamentals produces the best results is my theory.
I study and try to emulate Ronnie O'sullivan. He always breaks left handed. Said he just gets better result.
In his last outing I watched he was shooting noticeably more shots with his left. Comments indicated surprise on the part of the commentators. I have a theory.......I shot predominantly right handed but there have been occasions when the right wouldn't jell. Switching to the left helped me get my mind right. Success with the other hand has a calming effect and hopefully helps to break the slump the right has fallen into.This is pretty much the same with any training, since effective techniques often have to be distilled from (someone's) experience, in order for the knowledge to be passed onto those with less or no experience--the obvious benefit being a shortened period to achieve desired results.
Kudos, Dr. Dave, for taking the time to complete the trial and error necessary to model SAWS. It especially seems that it would not have been intuitive to combine BHE/FHE, in order for it to work (Although, I would guess that it would be possible to use only one type of pivot/offsetting technique, and learn the compensation for it, but I'm assuming that you tried that.)
@BlackMamba416, your thread got immediately derailed, and I'm guilty of being part of that. I see Dr. Dave 'like' your post, but I did not see an answer.
I cannot answer from experience with the SAWS training, but I wanted to say that it's very possible that you need to continue to develop your aiming/cueing without spin, and then revisit SAWS. I know that amounts to the same old, "You need to learn to hit center ball first", but until you are very consistent with your "straight" shots, you won't know if your SAWS %'s are good. And, like most things pool, you need to practice a LOT more than you might think, in order to burn things in.
And, I don't know how good of an SL4 (APA) you actually are, but even 4's that I personally consider very good are not very consistent with their abilities.
All that being said (typed!) it probably would not hurt to test your calibration a lot. In fact, doing so may actually help you become more consistent in your stroking, overall. Good luck!
Thank you. I don't think I was the first to combine BHE and FHE. But I think SAWS was the first methodical system to accurately apply the combination to a wide range of shot distances and speeds with a simple-to-use approach applicable to any cue and any bridge length.
FYI, I answered in post 65.