Drago over SVB??

i'm a big shane fan but i'm a bigger fan of tony drago, drago hardly plays any pool tourneys yet has some nice finishes in stacked fields and if u saw how he played in the wpc in 2003 you'd know he's a threat to beat ANYONE period!

it was a race to 6 alternate breaks i'm sure shane was aware of this b4 hand but he lost, GET OVER IT cause i'm sure shane will, more than likely by taking it out on someone else or tony again
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I agree, race to 6 is no big deal, anyone could win.

In a longer 9ball race it would depend on a table. If the table breaks difficult, then I would heavily favour Shane. If the table breaks easy, say something like Eurotour conditions...who knows, Tony might not actually be an underdog.

10ball? Shane a big favourite.

14.1? I can't imagine Tony playing that game. He's just too fast.

Snooker match? Now that would hurt. Tony could give him or any other US pool player 50 point start each frame.
 
I think what you guys are forgetting is that Drago is a snooker player, not a pool player. When it comes to matching up with top players he has played everybody. When it comes to playing in front of big audiences, for big money, under the most pressure, nobody in the Mosconi cup has the experience that Drago has. Believe me there is no way playing at the US Open compares with playing at the Crucible. Drago has played full day matches with guys like Hendry, O'Sullivan, Jimmy White and Steve Davis so I don't think he will be too intimidated by SVB. If he wanted to, he could match up with any pool player. Remember he only plays pool part time right now.
 
Johnson said:
i'm a big shane fan but i'm a bigger fan of tony drago, drago hardly plays any pool tourneys yet has some nice finishes in stacked fields and if u saw how he played in the wpc in 2003 you'd know he's a threat to beat ANYONE period!
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Yeah, no one should feel bad losing to Drago. His top gear is as high as anyones. That 2003 WPC he made so many VERY difficult racks look like simple 'connect the dots' type spreads. The man can play.
 
You see people. Shane is human........He isnt a robot and he will not win everything he plays in.....Just that Drago played better this match and that is that....
 
Fleece3 said:
I just read that Drago beat SVB. WOW!! I thought SVB would go undefeated at the Mosconi Cup!!
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I like the way Drago plays. You know how when you see a player and you like his style, i.e. the English he uses and positioning techniques, and you say to yourself that this is exactly the way I would have played the shot, - well this is the way I feel about his game :D .

Going out on a limb a few years back, I predicted that he would rise to the top. This hasn't happened yet, and may never happen, but his victory doesn't surprise me.

Shane is a young player. When I saw him loose to Orcullo (spelling?) on TV I thought he was the biggest choke ever and that he would never be in the top. Boy, was I wrong. Apparently he does have a lot of games where he is just out of it mentally. With age, I think he will become more consistent, and with his break, be very tough if not impossible to beat in long matches.
 
WesleyW said:
Stop whining! Tony is one of the best players in the world, he deserves to win. Shane lost, that's a fact. Don't blame the alternative break, race to 6 etc. Both have equal chances, and the best man won.
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Sure he did, this time. Shane will suffer other losses. If he didn't well, there wouldn't be much point would there?
 
Silly races to 6

For these top players in an international contest to be playing races to six in 9-ball is beyond idiotic. It's almost surreal. Top players playing races to 6 is practically a coin flip. If they must play races to 6 in order to satisfy the TV producers, let them play best of 3 or 5 sets. Even edited races to 9 or 11 would be preferable. It's not possible to draw any conclusions between any two contestants with single races to 6.

I can't wait for the next baseball World Series to be 3 inning games; or to have the Super Bowl be only one quarter of play!!:eek:

Doc
 
Worminator said:
LOL! Yep...1 loss in a tennis match format and he sucks...
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Some of you have no idea what you are talking about. Let's quote Derek. He is saying that winners break is in favor of SVB. Drago won 6 racks and SVB won 2 racks. If it was winners break, Drago would even have more racks to break than SVB. So lesser breaks will be in SVBs advantage? Race to 6 would been a short race. You might been right. But all the players knows that the race is only to the 6. You can't effort errors. So you are saying SVB is a great players who will start with some errors and lose some racks, and after losing some racks, he will own the opponent? To a good player, it doesn't matter if he play a race to 6 or 1.000. All the good players can win, but also lose. Losing is a fact, blaming others is just making you a BAD loser. You can say how good SVB is, but the one and only fact is, he lost against Tony! Even blaming the game, you can't change the fact!
 
ironman said:
Sure he did, this time. Shane will suffer other losses. If he didn't well, there wouldn't be much point would there?
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True, Shane might win the next time, and the next, but it's just the fact he lost. There is no reason to be ashamed of it. But blaming everything is just childish. Tony deserves some credits. Blaming other stuff is just insulting Tony.
 
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My original message was to the thread starter. He said "drago over svb???" as it were some big shock. I stated that it was not some big huge feat that he won a race to SIX, alternate break format. People in here are placing this win for tony at the top of his career achievments, good shootin tony! you can retire now!!!
 
WesleyW said:
True, Shane might win the next time, and the next, but it's just the fact he lost. There is no reason to be ashamed of it. But blaming everything is just childish. Tony deserves some credits. Blaming other stuff is just insulting Tony.
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Are you ok????? are you not feeling well today? No one blamed any thing on anyone, when someone sais "in a race to 6, its a coinflip" its not blaming anything. go back to bed.
 
The format is made for TV and designed to be dramatic. It is kind of cool I guess but it is not real pool IMO. It is a gaffe game, especially with the new break rule.

Both sides want to win badly of course, but it is still a carnival game.

As far as Shane losing...every guy in the event is world class. In these races it is hard to overcome any mistakes there just isn't time. Add in the enviroment and strange equipment and it makes a difficult situation for all concerned. For that hour Tony played better.

Of course Tony can play Shane a little race to 100 anytime he wants..:D :D
 
derekdisco said:
My original message was to the thread starter. He said "drago over svb???" as it were some big shock. I stated that it was not some big huge feat that he won a race to SIX, alternate break format. People in here are placing this win for tony at the top of his career achievments, good shootin tony! you can retire now!!!
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derekdisco said:
Are you ok????? are you not feeling well today? No one blamed any thing on anyone, when someone sais "in a race to 6, its a coinflip" its not blaming anything. go back to bed.
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Now you are talking shit. Look at your own post #14. It refers to EQUAL CHANCES. Your post #14 wasn't refering to the thread starter, but to my post. The second, if you don't think it was equal chances, you are blaming something, that makes the match not equal. Coinflip means equal changes, you are so talking shit. You should go to the psychiatry they can help you out.
 
whitewolf said:
I like the way Drago plays.

Shane is a young player. When I saw him loose to Orcullo (spelling?) on TV I thought he was the biggest choke ever and that he would never be in the top. Boy, was I wrong.
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Yeah, it's lose, not loose. ;)
JoeyA (just funnin' witcha)
 
WesleyW said:
Now you are talking shit. Look at your own post #14. It refers to EQUAL CHANCES. Your post #14 wasn't refering to the thread starter, but to my post. The second, if you don't think it was equal chances, you are blaming something, that makes the match not equal. Coinflip means equal changes, you are so talking shit. You should go to the psychiatry they can help you out.
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In a race to 6, alternate break format, any run out player can beat any top pro. this cannot be that hard to understand. The threadstarter was shocked that Shane lost, I'm stating that it wasn't some big upset that Tony, a world class player, won. No one made any excuses for Shane, I'm just stating a fact that the better pool player will never be determined over a race to 6!
 
SVB is a great player, who hasn't even reaches maturity yet. For the US it is a great thing that you have a talent like him. The last big talent coming up like that was Corey, the others didn't make it. Since Europe comes with different players every year, it means that there are more talented players putting their nose to the window. I think you guys shouls be very glad with a talent like him. Loosing at the Mosconi happens to everyone and is nothing to be ashamed of. Although I of course hope it happens again

greets to you all

Jaybird
 
WesleyW said:
True, Shane might win the next time, and the next, but it's just the fact he lost. There is no reason to be ashamed of it. But blaming everything is just childish. Tony deserves

I don't mean to insult anyone. Everyone there plays well and Shane is one of the hottest players on the planet right now. Still, it is 9-ball and things are going to happen. Pool is far from and exact science.

I'd love to feel the way Tony did after that win.
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Somebody should teach Tony how to use a jump cue. Hate to see workman with an incomplete set of tools.:D
 
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