Drawing Back Straight

[measureman]

Wild Turkey bottles are the best. Start with a full one. Drink a third of it then try again.

If no improvement, quit using draw and work on your follow stroke...but keep drinking.

Best,
Mike

PS Try relaxing on your stroke a little. You may be trying for spin too hard and throwing your stroke into a left turn.

Best answer so far.

 

[chefjeff]

Blue painters' tape from side pocket to side pocket.

Everything has to be on that line. Give it a try. It saves your cloth, too, with the tip rubbing the tape and not the cloth.

It has helped my stroke, don't know if it'll work for you, but what if it did?


Jeff Livingston

 

[Colin Colenso]

I recorded myself drawing being I have a tendency to hit the ball left causing the draw to go a little right.

I noticed 3 things.
1.) I was gripping the stick tighter right before impact.
2.) I was curling my wrist right before impact.
3.) I was adding a slight side arc to my back stroke when trying to hit it hard.

Are you hitting the CB left of aim or is the OB traveling left of intended aim? (The second one would explain drawing to the right of the intended path.)

I don't think the 3 things you mention above are the cause. Perhaps the arc if it leads to off center CB hitting, but in that case you'd see imparted side spin. And hitting left or right of CCB does not mean the CB moves right or left or vice-verse respectively. That will depend on the bridge's relation to the cue's pivot point.

Some think swiping to center moves the CB off the aim line, my tests show that this effect is largely insignificant on draw shots or any shots with speed.

I suspect you're aligning right of your intended aim and the 3 things you noticed are possibly symptomatic of your subconscious trying to get you back on the aim line.

Just a thought.. or 3.

 

[rocket23]

Try not cueing as low; say halfway between the miscue limit and center ball.

I hit the miscue limit.......ball went flying into the bar!........I yelled too much follow!

As for the op.....practice drawing every ball on the table they all are the same basically.

 

[Keith Jawahir]

Not trying to pick a fight, but aren't you that guy who refuses to do drills but has a new problem with your stroke or fundamentals every couple months?

 

[Colin Colenso]

Does anyone here, who comments on the stroke, have any evidence of what a stroke does?

What does hitting to left of CCB do and what does swiping do?

Most instructors don't know, they ain't swiped a ball in 20 years. Straight lines I say young boy ~ 'Foghorn Leghorn'

Damn the physics we know naught about!

 

[DrCue'sProtege]

Not trying to pick a fight, but aren't you that guy who refuses to do drills but has a new problem with your stroke or fundamentals every couple months?

I have done every drill that has been shown to me. Done them over and over. You've been listening to people on here that either don't know what they are talking about or just want to stir the pot.

DCP

 

[Neil]

Does anyone here, who comments on the stroke, have any evidence of what a stroke does?

What does hitting to left of CCB do and what does swiping do?

Most instructors don't know, they ain't swiped a ball in 20 years. Straight lines I say young boy ~ 'Foghorn Leghorn'

Damn the physics we know naught about!

Instructors don't know what they are talking about, stroke doesn't matter, aiming methods are all bunk.....you trying out for banger of the year award or what??

 

[Neil]

I have done every drill that has been shown to me. Done them over and over. You've been listening to people on here that either don't know what they are talking about or just want to stir the pot.

DCP

The idea of doing drills is to learn from them. What have you learned? Or do you just go through the drills and learn nothing from them?

 

[Patrick Johnson]

You can't draw/screw the cueball off a rail.

Sure you can - you just have to jack up high enough.

The pic below shows a cue jacked up about 45 degrees. As you can see, even from that uncomfortable angle you can barely hit below the "center of mass" without running into the cushion nose with your cue.

So you may have to switch to a dart or masse stroke to get draw off the rail, but it can definitely be done.

pj
chgo

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[the chicken]

I have no draw stroke unless I change from a normal stance (side on) to one that is more open. However, when using a more open stance, my cue ball control is reduced.

Shoot safe.

John

 

[Neil]

I have no draw stroke unless I change from a normal stance (side on) to one that is more open. However, when using a more open stance, my cue ball control is reduced.

Shoot safe.

John

That's simply because you aren't hitting the cb where you think you are.

 

[Blue Jam]

Sure you can - you just have to jack up high enough.

The pic below shows a cue jacked up about 45 degrees. As you can see, even from that uncomfortable angle you can barely hit below the "center of mass" without running into the cushion nose with your cue.

So you may have to switch to a dart or masse stroke to get draw off the rail, but it can definitely be done.

pj
chgo

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That's a jump shot. Try setting a ball between the centre pockets with the cueball tight to bottom rail and see how often you can draw the cueball to within two inches of the spot with that stroke. It may technically be "possible", but so is getting rich by betting you net worth on a roulette table - doesn't mean you should.

 

[Straightpool_99]

One thing that is killing me nowadays is that for some reason I cant draw the ball straight back. Whether its just a straight draw or a draw back off the rail and then into position I seem to be struggling with this.

Tips?

r/DCP

This is not just for draw, but accurate cueball striking in general: On your final pause before the backswing, make sure that your cuetip is as close as possible to the cueball. Practice actually touching it, then you know exactly how close you can go. Then make a short backswing and stroke smoothly and relaxed. Start with short draws then gradually increase the lengthy of draw and backstroke as required. If you can't draw straight a short bit with a short bakswing and close tip to the ball, you are severely misaligned and need someone to watch you to see what you do wrong.

I see these guys complain about their problems with cueball control, but during the warm up strokes their cue tip is flopping all over the place and they don't have a defined cuetip contact point even during their pause. If you are really talented you might get away with it, but try some carom for instance, and see how far it takes you there...There is much to be learned from other cue diciplines.

 

[Patrick Johnson]

That's a jump shot.

The CB "jumps" just about every time you hit it, jacked up or not. Jacking up is the only way to get draw off the rail or over another ball. The CB "jumping" doesn't prevent that, and it doesn't make it more difficult (although shooting downward on the CB makes things more difficult with or without the jump).

A masse shot is also a "jump shot" by your definition.

pj
chgo

 

[nick serdula]

Most common sandlot error?

Besides forgetting the wild Turkey thing?
Hitting the thing too hard would be the number one error to achieve the come back.. Crack the whip.
Easy now killer.
Not too hard.

Nick

 

[caff3in3]

One thing that is killing me nowadays is that for some reason I cant draw the ball straight back. Whether its just a straight draw or a draw back off the rail and then into position I seem to be struggling with this.

Tips?

r/DCP

I assume from your post you mean you can draw but never straight (comes back to either side). If this is the case use just the cueball dead center of the table and aim at the middle spot at the head or foot of the table. the idea is that this should be dead straight.

Now shoot a draw shot at the rail. Does it come back straight to where you started? If not, you are not hitting the middle of the cueball. Keep doing this until it comes back straight every time. When it does you have fixed that problem.

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[KMRUNOUT]

You can't draw/screw the cueball off a rail.

Otherwise, all you need to do is cue straight. If you're having problems with that, try replacing the cueball with a wine bottle. Preferably empty. Practice cueing into the neck, with the hole close to where you would normally have the cueball. If you can do that without hitting the bottle, you can hit the cueball where you need to. Voila.

You *can* draw with the cue ball on the rail, but it is far more difficult. What the OP was saying I think is the idea of drawing back *to* a rail and back out.

KMRUNOUT

 

[KMRUNOUT]

Haha that's brilliant. Let go of the cue. Yeah, and when driving to the pool hall and you're approaching a junction, just close your eyes. Oh, and just before you go into a job interview, take off all your clothes!

Actually what he says is not wrong. Try it. The mass of the cue allows it to keep travelling straight even if you let go. Also, he did say to then grab it again. I've had success with this technique at times.

KMRUNOUT

 

[KMRUNOUT]

Sure you can - you just have to jack up high enough.

The pic below shows a cue jacked up about 45 degrees. As you can see, even from that uncomfortable angle you can barely hit below the "center of mass" without running into the cushion nose with your cue.

So you may have to switch to a dart or masse stroke to get draw off the rail, but it can definitely be done.

pj
chgo

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Patrick,

You can also cue directly into the cushion. You literally squish through the edge of the cushion and hit the ball that way. You can actually get quite a lot of draw this way, and I don't believe it is a foul.

KMRUNOUT