Dubbing a vhs tape to a DVD tape

a little gray

BVal said:
That is what I thought. Last year I transferred all of my VHS (about 100) movies to DVD. I have them all in a box in my garage and don't plan on getting rid of them.

BVal
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Hugh,

A little gray like so much of copyright but what you are doing should easily stand any test. The copies in your garage are your archive copies and the DVD's are your working copies now. That would be my contention anyway. I don't think anyone selling one copy of something minds anyone using one copy. It is when an owner has copied the material and is using multiple copies or passing it on that it becomes an issue.

Hu
 
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ShootingArts said:
Hugh,

A little gray like so much of copyright but what you are doing should easily stand any test. The copies in your garage are your archive copies and the DVD's are your working copies now. That would be my contention anyway. I don't think anyone selling one copy of something minds anyone using one copy. It is when an owner has copied the material and is using multiple copies or passing it on that it becomes an issue.

Hu
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Yeah I don't see anything wrong with what I am doing either. Nor do I think anyone else would. Just in case, please edit your posts to use my other name (see below). You never know who is watching.

Thanks,

Hu :D:D:D
 
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no problemo!

BVal said:
Yeah I don't see anything wrong with what I am doing either. Nor do I think anyone else would. Just in case, please edit your posts to use my other name (see below). You never know who is watching.

Thanks,

Hu :D:D:D
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Got it taken care of for you!

Jose :D
 
BVal said:
Is it "sold for profit" or "sold period"?

If i buy it for $20 and sell it for $15 that is not "sold for profit".

BVal
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let me rephrase that.. the copyright holder reserves the right to sell and distribute the material...

as long as you are not selling or distributing.. you can do what you want with what you paid for..
 
the activity's proposed by the OP..

would fall under the category of Archiving

which HAS been ruled by the Supreme Court as Fair Use..


have a nice day:thumbup:
 
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Nobody here would even THINK of selling the original once the copy is made. It's not ethical.
 
I can't beleive when a person asks a question all the BS that is given about everything else but what the person asks. If you have an answer ok otherwise forget posting.
Ron
 
nathandumoulin said:
Wouldn't have been cheaper just buy the DVD versions of your videos? I mean, for one, you'd be supporting pool. And secondly, you wouldn't be violating copyright laws.
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I understand your answer completely but there are software's available to do these types of things. And yes there are people that use them "illegally" but there is a reason these softwares are available and allowed to be sold legally is If you already own the video, music or whatever you are allowed to back it up for your own use like iPods, and media server PC's.


So rocketship I say go for it. I too have dozens of VHS tapes I would like to back up to DVD or my PC's HD so I can play on my big screen with the features of "digital" media vs. "tape".

There is many ways to do this and like the other fellow said Google it. Most likely you will need special cables and a capture software and of course the PC you typed this question w/.

Good luck!
 
I did remember a recent ruling after first posting

I did remember a recent ruling after first posting however it is still clear that Accu-Stats and others that deeply discount VHS copies to sell them aren't expecting people to buy the VHS versions just to copy to other media. As usual with intellectual property issues it is too easy to see both sides.

At this point it appears that if marketers can't sell their VHS stock at a fair price for the content they would be well advised to simply destroy the VHS copies and pass the loss on in increased prices for DVD's. That is ugly isn't it? However every business has to make a profit. If selling VHS at deeply discounted prices amounts to selling DVD's at that price I don't see that the people creating the video have any choice.

It is clear that until recently nobody expected the VHS they sold to be copied period. That was settled law when much of it was produced, as settled as copyright law ever is. Recent rulings support "single user" ownership if I am not mistaken. That should drive the price of DVD's and such up to two or three times what they were but instead we see smaller producers going under. I'm not sure the end users gained.

Hu
 
There are devices that allow you to do this, unfortunately it will likely not work with your current machine since everything is internal.

You need a VCR plus a DVD recorder, this simply goes inline between the two.

http://www.xdimax.com/dvd/dvdredpro.html

dvdred_conn_diagram.jpg


The Sima CT-2 or CT-200 does the same thing.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Sima-GODVD-Video-Enhancer-CT-2_W0QQitemZ250460268063QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3a5098661f&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12|66%3A2|39%3A1|72%3A1234|293%3A1|294%3A50
 
I have run into the same problem. Even with video tapes I personally made which could not possibly be copy protected.
Here is what I found out. I cannot copy channels like hbo onto dvd even though I can get the same show onto video tape. If my tv is on a channel like hbo the dvd apparently picks up the hbo signal first before trying to copy the tape to dvd. I therefore make sure my tv is set to a channel that is not blocked like channel 2. Then I copy. There are some dvd's that cannot be copied. Then there is also the legal problem. I too have about a hundred tapes that take up a lot of room. My concern is that in the near future my video tape machine will break and I will not be able to replace it. The next problem is just about the time we replace all tapes with dvd's we will have to replace all the dvd's with the next form of media that comes along.
Good luck.
 
ShootingArts said:
OK,

According to your thought then someone else can buy the originals on E-Bay, make their own copies, and resale the originals on E-Bay. The next buyer can do the same. So can the next and the next and the next and the next.

Just where do you figure it becomes wrong? Each person owns the originals when they make a copy and resell the originals.

Hu
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That is why people have discussion to brain storm things out.. You are probably right. For his own use though I can't see a problem.
 
Gradstudent78 said:
http://www.pinnaclesys.com/PublicSi...ideo/Studio+Family/Instant+Video+Recorder.htm

Pinnacle Video Transfer.

I have a bunch of martial arts instructional tapes that probably cost over $500 and are not being produced anymore with no plans to release them on DVD. So I bought one of these and just made digital copies of them to a flash drive. Now I can just watch them on my computer or if I really wanted to burn them to DVD.
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This thing is bad ass! Does it work that easy?
 
Just musing, but I am wondering why VHS players were able to record copyrighted programs and movies for so long? How was that legal?

My neighbors had a garage sale and gave me a huge box of recorded videos that I will go through and see if any are worth keeping. They know I still have a Go Video combination VCR and DVD player/recorder. ;)
 
VHS to DVD dubbing is legal if it's for your own personal use. You aren't allowed to rent, sell, show in public, display, or even give it away.

However, if what you are trying to copy has copy-protection on it that scrambles or encrypts anything digitally, circumventing that copy-protection is illegal per the Digital Millennium Copyright Act even if it is legal per copyright fair use provisions.
 
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