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Darren Appleton came with near perfect pool and a Bakery full of Rolls to beat Scott Frost 3 sets to zero.

Daz had just about every kick go his way. And the few times that Scott got the best of a kick shot he didn't get out.

Scott made like four mistakes the entire match and Daz made none. Not counting scratching on the break which they both did a few times.

Thanks TAR - I actually got a good clear feed for most of set one and two and then it dropped out for set 3 with audio only. Not your fault but I am about done trying to figure out how to make it work consistently on my end.

Will try again tomorrow though.

Glad you are able to broadcast!
 
I don't knwo that he bit off more than he can chew. Scott Frost plays damn sporty.

He got some bad rolls and simply made a few mistakes more than the other guy.

Darren will be the first to tell you that he got all the good rolls in the 10 ball. Four or five times he kicked at balls and they went in - like kick combos and such - obviously he had to hit the ball but all players know that the outcome is still uncertain in those situations.

In 8 Ball Scott was leading and the sets were close. Either of them could run out four or five games at a time. The last few games both of them came up dry on the break or had a tricky first shot. So, although Darren won the 8-ball it was very close.

In 10 Ball it was a combination of Darren's near perfect position play, several key errors from Scott, and getting the rolls.

The way Darren won the final set says it all. He makes the five and runs into the 10 mid table and slops the 10 in for the win. He was on the good side of the pool gods tonight and didn't waste the fortune he was receiving.

Scott needs to clear his head for tomorrow becuase it's a 5,000 dollar swing from losing $2500 or losing $7500. Also for Darren he doesn't want to only win $2500 after all this play.

Ronnie Wiseman once played a marathon match in Vegas where they played like 12 hours a day for five days or so - something like that and he finally got the money - I don't know how much - maybe like 10,000 or so and he said it was too little for so much work.

As I watch these Action Challenges I am impressed by the play and the stamina and at the same time sad that other pro athletes get so much more for less effort. And by that I mean effort in the actual matchup - not all the effort it took to get to that stage.

It's gambling for sure but when I think of the fact that these guys are nearly always backed and that means they will have to split the money I am underimpressed by what they will actually walk away with if they win. Especially considering their personal efforts. I guess I just need to think of pool more as a team sport.

Just my rambling thoughts.
 
The only reason I said that is because Scott "seems" to have an idea that certain other players can't play, and he might occassionally get froggy at the wrong times.

Him spotting Montal 2 or 3 games on the wire (if this is true) on a barbox, for example. Maybe he plays that much stronger than Montal..But long term, I don't know how well he does in that game.

I just get this vibe from Scott that he is VERY confident in his game, but that he might hand out spots to, or match up with, people he shouldn't be.

If he is doing it to improve his game, or some trial by fire thing, then kudos to him. But I heard him talking to TAR guys at DCC, and he seemed to be rather dismissive of some other players.

Russ
 
Russ Chewning said:
The only reason I said that is because Scott "seems" to have an idea that certain other players can't play, and he might occassionally get froggy at the wrong times.

Him spotting Montal 2 or 3 games on the wire (if this is true) on a barbox, for example. Maybe he plays that much stronger than Montal..But long term, I don't know how well he does in that game.

I just get this vibe from Scott that he is VERY confident in his game, but that he might hand out spots to, or match up with, people he shouldn't be.

If he is doing it to improve his game, or some trial by fire thing, then kudos to him. But I heard him talking to TAR guys at DCC, and he seemed to be rather dismissive of some other players.

Russ
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So was Jersey Red and he would give any player coming into the 711 9-5 and the break,and im talking good players,thats how legends are made,outrunning the nuts. :)
 
Fast Lenny said:
So was Jersey Red and he would give any player coming into the 711 9-5 and the break,and im talking good players,thats how legends are made,outrunning the nuts. :)
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Lol... Touche!

Only problem is... Yah gotta OUTRUN the nuts! LOL...

I gotta say though, he does have some heart... I just look at some of the matchups he has made, and I wonder.. Is he ahead in these big matchups?

Russ
 
Russ Chewning said:
Lol... Touche!

Only problem is... Yah gotta OUTRUN the nuts! LOL...

I gotta say though, he does have some heart... I just look at some of the matchups he has made, and I wonder.. Is he ahead in these big matchups?

Russ
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Well he beat Efren and im sure regardless if he loses every match for the rest of the year he will still feel like a winner. :D
 
Russ Chewning said:
The only reason I said that is because Scott "seems" to have an idea that certain other players can't play, and he might occassionally get froggy at the wrong times.

Him spotting Montal 2 or 3 games on the wire (if this is true) on a barbox, for example. Maybe he plays that much stronger than Montal..But long term, I don't know how well he does in that game.

I just get this vibe from Scott that he is VERY confident in his game, but that he might hand out spots to, or match up with, people he shouldn't be.

If he is doing it to improve his game, or some trial by fire thing, then kudos to him. But I heard him talking to TAR guys at DCC, and he seemed to be rather dismissive of some other players.

Russ
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Well Scott's a trash talker of sorts. That's his way. Don't ever think that this means he doesn't respect a person's game. You can bet that he knows for sure who can play and who can't.

As for giving Montal two games on the wire I say big deal. It's a nothing spot for two top players. It's more psychological than anything else.

Scott can match up with anyone in the world. If he is playing good then he runs out as well as anyone in the world. His one pocket experience gives him some shots that people who don't play one pocket may not have.

I certainly don't think this is a case of Scott matching up wrong. These two players are pretty evenly matched and a few rolls the other direction would have swung this the other way.

I do however think that Appleton has the edge in steadiness. His play is methodical and stoic and his accuracy is dead on. Scott seems to be more rapid fire and he seems to like to force position a lot. He also gets out of line more and has to come with great shots whereas Appleton is pretty straightforward with simple and in-line position play.

Scott is more like Strickland - if he is on then I hope your chair is comfortable. Appleton more like Nick Varner, a steady grinder who will chip away at your mistakes and wear you out with perfect play. And if a guy like that starts getting the rolls then it just kills the streaky player.
 
JB Cases said:
Nick Varner, a steady grinder who will chip away at your mistakes and wear you out with perfect play. And if a guy like that starts getting the rolls then it just kills the streaky player.
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That's the exact style that I aspire to. Love it. If you don't have a wealth of ability, wear em' down with steadiness. Great example of it in Nick.:)
 
dogginda9 said:
That's the exact style that I aspire to. Love it. If you don't have a wealth of ability, wear em' down with steadiness. Great example of it in Nick.:)
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You can also wear 'em down if you play as slow as a turtle. :o

JAM
 
JB Cases said:
Well Scott's a trash talker of sorts. That's his way. Don't ever think that this means he doesn't respect a person's game. You can bet that he knows for sure who can play and who can't.

As for giving Montal two games on the wire I say big deal. It's a nothing spot for two top players. It's more psychological than anything else.

Scott can match up with anyone in the world. If he is playing good then he runs out as well as anyone in the world. His one pocket experience gives him some shots that people who don't play one pocket may not have.

I certainly don't think this is a case of Scott matching up wrong. These two players are pretty evenly matched and a few rolls the other direction would have swung this the other way.

I do however think that Appleton has the edge in steadiness. His play is methodical and stoic and his accuracy is dead on. Scott seems to be more rapid fire and he seems to like to force position a lot. He also gets out of line more and has to come with great shots whereas Appleton is pretty straightforward with simple and in-line position play.

Scott is more like Strickland - if he is on then I hope your chair is comfortable. Appleton more like Nick Varner, a steady grinder who will chip away at your mistakes and wear you out with perfect play. And if a guy like that starts getting the rolls then it just kills the streaky player.
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Good assessment of Scott, imho. He's one of the best because he's not afraid of going against whomever he thinks will make him stronger and richer. He's always been that way and I say, "why change?" when he's doing so well overall.

CJ, chairman of 'Iowans, formerly beaten by, and now rooting for Scott Frost'....Mrs. Lumley says "hello" and speaks (only) positively of you often, Scott, if you're listening.

Jeff Livingston
 
dogginda9 said:
Huh? Splain Lucy.
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It is difficult to explain. Some players are rhythm players, and if they play against somebody who is very slow and methodical, it upsets their rhythm, and they cannot perform as well.

That is not to say that slow players aren't good players because there are many slow players who are phenomenal. Danny Basavich and Nick Varner come to mind.

If you ever get a chance to see the Accu-Stats DVD of the 2003 U.S. Open finals between Jeremy Jones and Jose Parica, you will see how slow play can affect an opponent. :o

And the audience, too, for that matter.

JAM
 
Always thought this was a good game for Darren, no disrespect to SF but I'm sure it won't be long before Darren will be calling out the SVBs and Alcano's of this world.

TAR is made for Darren and he's never been short of a back or two, be interesting to see who he plays once he's won a few.

Well done Daz
 
TheOne said:
Always thought this was a good game for Darren, no disrespect to SF but I'm sure it won't be long before Darren will be calling out the SVBs and Alcano's of this world.

TAR is made for Darren and he's never been short of a back or two, be interesting to see who he plays once he's won a few.

Well done Daz
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I agree, TAR and Darren will both benefit from his stellar play so far. The market will grow and rivalries will be made. Great stuff for viewers too.
 
TheOne said:
Always thought this was a good game for Darren, no disrespect to SF but I'm sure it won't be long before Darren will be calling out the SVBs and Alcano's of this world.

TAR is made for Darren and he's never been short of a back or two, be interesting to see who he plays once he's won a few.

Well done Daz
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No disrespect to Darren but he is just painfully slow to watch in the wee hours. :cool:
 
jay helfert said:
Even more so for Scott! ;)
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Yeah,lol,it was funny after Scott beat Efren and we talked,i said i was tired after doing the live stream and being up late both nights and he responded,"Your tired?,think about how tired I am!",lmao! :D
 
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