Earl Strickland's antics at the Mosconi Cup...

Earl Strickland's antics at this year's Mosconi Cup prove that:

  • He's a paragon of sensibility, courtesy, and a perfect advocate for our sport

    Votes: 47 24.0%
  • He's a hillbilly asshole

    Votes: 133 67.9%
  • I like to watch 'American Idol'

    Votes: 16 8.2%

  • Total voters
    196
TheOne..."Drago probably has more talent than Earl ever had, as hard as that will be to believe by most Americans."

Your national loyalties are showing. The reason most Americans would not believe your statement is because it contains not one single shred of truth.

God Bless America!

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Drago probably has more talent than Earl ever had, as hard as that will be to believe by most Americans.

can't go with that at all. and i've seen more of drago than most on here being from england and seeing him play snooker. he is a great talent, but earl is better.
 
av84fun said:
TheOne..."Drago probably has more talent than Earl ever had, as hard as that will be to believe by most Americans."

Your national loyalties are showing. The reason most Americans would not believe your statement is because it contains not one single shred of truth.

God Bless America!

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TAP, TAP, TAP!

GOD BLESS AMERICA!
USA, ALL THE WAY!


JAM
 
av84fun said:
TheOne..."Drago probably has more talent than Earl ever had, as hard as that will be to believe by most Americans."

Your national loyalties are showing. The reason most Americans would not believe your statement is because it contains not one single shred of truth.

God Bless America!

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Drago isn't a 9 ball player but he crosses over and demolishes top 9 ball players often with ease. He finishes very high in almost every eurotour he plays in and qualifies for the WPC often playing one less event than anyone else. He's proving (as I predicted ;) ) an excellent choice on the Mosconi cup team, his vast TV experience proving key as I thought.

Drago on form on a Snooker table was a sight to behold, most would agree very very few players have walked this earth with such natural ability. He was never a champion of course (he played to quick I always thought) but ABILITY he has in spades!

PS
I'm not from Malta ;)
 
I Can Only Hope That She Pulls For The Home Team

I'm going to reserve any judgement on this Mosconi Cup match,
until I find out which team JAM is pulling for.... imo
Doug
( JAM, please let me know when you've reached a decision.... ok ? OK ? ) :)
 
I simply do not understand... I have been in many countries and have a lot of friends in both US,UK and others. There is however just one country which brags about their own in the way "GOD BLESS AMERICA". What is it with that statement which makes you think that some one actually thinks that that sounds OK and actually believe in it , except from you who are living there? I have never ever heard "God bless England, France,Netherlands or who ever" simply because my friend in these countries never ever think of them self in that way!

Now I'm definitely pulling out of this discussion because the subject is debated to death and the discussion ends now in a sorry a*s political state.
God bless Norway !

N
 
Smorgass Bored said:
I'm going to reserve any judgement on this Mosconi Cup match,
until I find out which team JAM is pulling for.... imo
Doug
( JAM, please let me know when you've reached a decision.... ok ? OK ? ) :)

You know who I'm pulling for! :D

I will say that this year's Mosconi Cup has been disappointing for me, for reasons I stated previously in the thread.

I have to give credit where credit is due, and Team Europe seems to be doing everything within their power to bring their best game to the table.

Team USA, I am sure wants to win, but I do not think they have put forth as much effort as Team Europe. This is my opinion, of course, and others may have a different opinion.

When I am told that there have been deliberate incidents directed at Earl when his match is in progress, it does not sit well with me. Others, however, may enjoy watching Earl Strickland being treated in this manner. I do not. :(

JAM
 
Newton said:
I simply do not understand... I have been in many countries and have a lot of friends in both US,UK and others. There is however just one country which brags about their own in the way "GOD BLESS AMERICA". What is it with that statement which makes you think that some one actually thinks that that sounds OK and actually believe in it , except from you who are living there? I have never ever heard "God bless England, France,Netherlands or who ever" simply because my friend in these countries never ever think of them self in that way!

Now I'm definitely pulling out of this discussion because the subject is debated to death and the discussion ends now in a sorry a*s political state.
God bless Norway !

N

Maybe it is a cultural thing, Newton. There is a traditional American anthem named "God Bless America," written by a famous song writer, Irvin Berlin.

"While the storm clouds gather far across the sea,
Let us swear allegiance to a land that's free,
Let us all be grateful for a land so fair,
As we raise our voices in a solemn prayer. "

God Bless America,
Land that I love.
Stand beside her, and guide her
Thru the night with a light from above.
From the mountains, to the prairies,
To the oceans, white with foam
God bless America, My home sweet home.


If you would like to listen to this American traditional song, here is a link: http://www.scoutsongs.com/lyrics/godblessamerica.html

JAM
 
TheOne..."He was never a champion of course ..."

Of course...so he "coulda, woulda shoulda" been better than Earl...and my Aunt Sally too!!

LOL
 
I simply do not understand... I have been in many countries and have a lot of friends in both US,UK and others. There is however just one country which brags about their own in the way "GOD BLESS AMERICA". What is it with that statement which makes you think that some one actually thinks that that sounds OK and actually believe in it , except from you who are living there? I have never ever heard "God bless England, France,Netherlands or who ever" simply because my friend in these countries never ever think of them self in that way!

Now I'm definitely pulling out of this discussion because the subject is debated to death and the discussion ends now in a sorry a*s political state.
God bless Norway !

N

newton, you say you don't hear similar remarks much in england, but the political and cultural climate in england at the moment shows how badly we need a bit of that patriotic spirit that the americans have. you say 'god bless england' here and you're seen as a racist.
 
Newton said:
I simply do not understand... I have been in many countries and have a lot of friends in both US,UK and others. There is however just one country which brags about their own in the way "GOD BLESS AMERICA". What is it with that statement which makes you think that some one actually thinks that that sounds OK and actually believe in it , except from you who are living there? I have never ever heard "God bless England, France,Netherlands or who ever" simply because my friend in these countries never ever think of them self in that way!

Now I'm definitely pulling out of this discussion because the subject is debated to death and the discussion ends now in a sorry a*s political state.
God bless Norway !

N

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_Save_the_Queen
 
av84fun said:
TheOne..."Drago probably has more talent than Earl ever had, as hard as that will be to believe by most Americans."

Your national loyalties are showing. The reason most Americans would not believe your statement is because it contains not one single shred of truth.

God Bless America!

(-:
Which cup have you been watching? There is one player out there making 9 ball look an absolute doddle. That's because he thinks it's a doddle, because it is a doddle. That man is Tony Drago. He knows he can pot anything from anywhere, from any angle, from any distance, in the time it takes others to choose which side they are going to break from, because he knows he can do exactly the same thing on a snooker table, and has demonstrated that fact in front of far larger audiences for the past 23 years. The pool players know that, and it scares them shitless. He knows that. He's showing them all how they should be playing pool. Stop pretending it's hard and get on with it. We could be watching races to 37 if they all played like Drago.

When Tony Drago is awful he is awful. But the only way to stop Tony Drago when he's being Tony Drago is to concede. Don't confuse ability with talent. Tony Drago had much too much talent and not nearly enough ability. That's why he was never a snooker champion. But 9 ball? I'm sure he thinks it's like falling off a bike.

Boro Nut
 
Timmey said:

Welcome to the forum...Timmey.

But your links to Earl's comments/behavior ARE NOT all there is to say about him...not by a thousand miles.

HERE is what to say about him that is vastly more meaningful than snippy little remarks.

Here is waht was said when he was inducted INTO THE HALL OF FAME!

EARL STRICKLAND was a dominant player during the 1980s and 1990s, and continues to be so today. He currently holds over 100 tournament titles and has been named ?Player of the Year? five times. He won the Akron Open nine times and the US Open 9-Ball Championship five times: 1984, 1987, 1993, 1997 and 2000. He has won the World 9-Ball Championship six times: 1984, ?88, ?90, ?91, ?94 and 2002. He most recently won the World Pool Masters Trick Shot Challenge in 2003. In addition to his individual championships, he has been a team member on nine winning U.S. Mosconi Cup teams, including 2005, and was captain in two of those years. He has conducted numerous exhibitions at trade shows, Air Force bases and at the Raoping Billiard School in China. Mr. Strickland maintains an active charity schedule, donating exhibition time for programs such as Pool Aid ?95, D.A.R.E., Paralyzed Veterans of America, Brenner Children?s Hospital, Billiard Education Foundation, Children?s Burn Center and others.

I just can't BELIEVE the whiners who seem to think that the sport of pool should be conducted in church halls or Boy Scout Jamborees.

Trash talking is a rampant and accepted practice in virtually all sports with the possible exception of high school girls field hockey.

So what is all this "Be Mr. Nice Guy" stuff all about? Is it some cosmetic designed to cover up the fact that the very foundation of this sport was built on "the art of the hustle"...which means to employ every device and artifice possible to beat people out of their money...legally or otherwise.

Haven't you ever heard of a player by the name of Wonderone who took trash talking and sharking to new heights?

Haven't you read the biographies of the legends who are now revered by all present day players? Don't you know that many of them dumped and double dumped and used disguises to hide their identities ? Here...check out the definition of the word "hustle"...

"To misrepresent one's ability in order to deceive someone, especially in gambling."

Pro pool is NOT a "mainstream" sport in this day and age and when it was, back in the day, it was NOT participated in exclusively by gentlemen, Boy Scout leaders, clergy or candidates for the "Nobe Prize for Nice" and neither sir or madame, is any other sport.

Don't you know that MLB pitchers throw 90 mph fastballs at their opponent's heads....ON PURPOSE!

Don't you know that MANY sports champions are FAKERS because of taking steroids?

So let me just tell you that Earl may be a LOT of things but A) HE IS NO FAKER and B) he has never said or done ANYTHING that hasn't been said or done by LOTS of others in the world of sports...and your reducing the definition of Earl Strickland, one of the greatest CHAMPIONS this sport has ever known, to some youtube clips of him talking trash may have set an all-time record for petty naivete.

Regards,
Jim
 
@av84fun:

Yes, you are right, Baseball pitchers throw bean balls - and get ejected for that. Soccer players foul others - and get a yellow card. Boxers throw low blows and head butt their opponent - and get a point deduction or lose the fight. How come nothing ever happens to the worst "sportsman" pool billiards has ever seen? If you play the game seriously you have to hate losing. But if you do, be a true sportsman and stop using foul excuses or blame other things than yourself! Souquet has more luck than playing ability? Are you kidding me? Not looking in someone's eyes when you shake his hand? Throwing someone's hand away after a handshake? Cheating when everybody around you, except for the referee(!), sees it? How low can it get?

I have played baseball on a competitive level for 13 years, I hated losing like noone else. But I never used silly excuses or was a bad loser. If you wanna blame someone, blame yourself! I don't care how many titles he has one, he will never be a sportsman!
 
Boro Nut said:
Which cup have you been watching? There is one player out there making 9 ball look an absolute doddle. That's because he thinks it's a doddle, because it is a doddle. That man is Tony Drago. He knows he can pot anything from anywhere, from any angle, from any distance, in the time it takes others to choose which side they are going to break from, because he knows he can do exactly the same thing on a snooker table, and has demonstrated that fact in front of far larger audiences for the past 23 years. The pool players know that, and it scares them shitless. He knows that. He's showing them all how they should be playing pool. Stop pretending it's hard and get on with it. We could be watching races to 37 if they all played like Drago.

When Tony Drago is awful he is awful. But the only way to stop Tony Drago when he's being Tony Drago is to concede. Don't confuse ability with talent. Tony Drago had much too much talent and not nearly enough ability. That's why he was never a snooker champion. But 9 ball? I'm sure he thinks it's like falling off a bike.

Boro Nut

Oh...forgive me then. I must have forgotten his record of world and national 9 Ball championships. Please provide me with a list.

And for all you Drago lovers and Earl bashers...bite on this for a while...

His combination of exceptionally fast play and emotional temperament has made him a popular character in snooker, although he famously took some criticism for hurling his cue at the table and storming out of the arena following his 5-0 defeat to Mark Bennett in the 1996 Grand Prix, later accusing Bennett of bad sportsmanship because he had twice in the match suggested that Drago missed balls deliberately while snookered.

Drago's highest snooker world rankings position was number 10 (in 1998).

He reached the quarter-finals of the World Championship in 1988 (he has appeared in the tournament 11 times more, most recently in 2003/2004), the final of the Mita World Masters in 1991 (losing to Jimmy White), and the final of the International Open in 1997 (his only ranking event final, beaten by Stephen Hendry).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Drago

He only got to #10 in the world is SNOOKER...his MAIN SPORT...and you try to elevate him to some kind of world beater status...when the RECORD shows, what he is best at is LOSING when it counts!

"Tony Drago had much too much talent and not nearly enough ability."

That is TOO FUNNY! The road to Oblivion is paved with people who had talent but couldn't summon it when it counts, which seems to precisely described Drago.

So, take some DEEP BREATHS and try to calm down and get real.
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Jim
 
av84fun said:
...when the RECORD shows, what he is best at is LOSING when it counts!

You are kidding, right?!?!:o

av84fun said:
So, take some DEEP BREATHS and try to calm down and get real.
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Jim

Jim, don't get on me, I am absolutely calm, my pulse never went above 75.
If you want to calm somebody down, well, you know who to talk to, right?;)
 
Ice cold beer and popcorn, anyone? :D


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av84fun said:
He only got to #10 in the world is SNOOKER...his MAIN SPORT...and you try to elevate him to some kind of world beater status...when the RECORD shows, what he is best at is LOSING when it counts!
Which just goes to show how easy 9 ball is in comparison to snooker if a has-been never-quite-was like Tony Drago can do what he has done. And I'm sure all his wins have counted so far. Played 4 won 4. The statement being defended was about talent, not titles. Drago has it coming out of his ears. It's just not enough in snooker.

Boro Nut
 
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