Earl Strickland's antics at the Mosconi Cup...

[Kyo]

Just finished watching the Earl vs Peach match and the world class shots were marred by Earl losing the plot again. We heard it all time and again. Misunderstood, Depression etc etc it is all excuses at the end of the day.

However i was absolutely amazed how Earl can find new depths to sink so low. He just looks for trouble. Earl basically casts the line out with the bait and just waits for someone to bite.!!

Constant comments to insult his opponent and with the crowd responding doesn't help things but Peach finally had enough near the end of the match and basically asked Earl to settle this afterwards?? I can't blame Dazz being constantly barraged by comments like "lucky as hell" Just pure luck" etc etc and what is it with the accusation of Sharking!? First it was various people in the crowd then it was someone else and then even accused Daryl ???? Absolutely disgraceful.!

Bags of talent, why just why does he have to do this.??

 

[gopi-1]

However i was absolutely amazed how Earl can find new depths to sink so low. He just looks for trouble. Earl basically casts the line out with the bait and just waits for someone to bite.!!

Constant comments to insult his opponent and with the crowd responding doesn't help things but Peach finally had enough near the end of the match and basically asked Earl to settle this afterwards?? I can't blame Dazz being constantly barraged by comments like "lucky as hell" Just pure luck" etc etc and constantly accusing various people in the crowd and even Daryl himself of sharking him ??

It Drago all over again. Bags of talent, why just why does have to do this.?? It inexcusable really.

This I gotta see! I've been shooting from the mouth and never miss! Come
on Earl! Let's see if you can back it up!

 

[av84fun]

@av84fun:

Yes, you are right, Baseball pitchers throw bean balls - and get ejected for that. Soccer players foul others - and get a yellow card. Boxers throw low blows and head butt their opponent - and get a point deduction or lose the fight. How come nothing ever happens to the worst "sportsman" pool billiards has ever seen? If you play the game seriously you have to hate losing. But if you do, be a true sportsman and stop using foul excuses or blame other things than yourself! Souquet has more luck than playing ability? Are you kidding me? Not looking in someone's eyes when you shake his hand? Throwing someone's hand away after a handshake? Cheating when everybody around you, except for the referee(!), sees it? How low can it get?

I have played baseball on a competitive level for 13 years, I hated losing like noone else. But I never used silly excuses or was a bad loser. If you wanna blame someone, blame yourself! I don't care how many titles he has one, he will never be a sportsman!

So...how does getting a yellow card...or a 5 minute major for fighting or Vince Lombardy kicking his players in the ass, make "sportsmen" out of them????


And DID YOU READ MY POST??? Appraently not all of it so here we go again about your beloved "Sportsman" Tony Drago

"His combination of exceptionally fast play and emotional temperament has made him a popular character in snooker, although he famously took some criticism for hurling his cue at the table and storming out of the arena following his 5-0 defeat to Mark Bennett in the 1996 Grand Prix, later accusing Bennett of bad sportsmanship because he had twice in the match suggested that Drago missed balls deliberately while snookered."

And there are A LOT more Tony stories, so get down off your high horse and realize that neither pool nor any other sport is for wimps.

When defensive human mountains sack a quarterback...THEY ARE TRY TO HURT THEM...VERY BADLY...OUT FOR THE SEASON WOULD BE JUST FINE!!!!

You really do have a very naive view of the world of competitive sports and sound more like a 4th grade gym teacher...with all due respect.

Jim

 

[av84fun]

You are kidding, right?!?!



Jim, don't get on me, I am absolutely calm, my pulse never went above 75.
If you want to calm somebody down, well, you know who to talk to, right?

Kidding? No way. POST HIS RECORD. He was never a world champion even in snooker was he?

 

[TheOne]

Thanks Boro, at least you got my point

av84fun, its pretty clear you haven't seen much of Tony play, I've seen both up close and know boths records. I stand by my statement, when Earl moves over to Snooker and starts making the top players in the world look silly come back and we can continue this debate.

Talent/Abilty I might have used the wrong words I don't know, word it how you like but Tony Drago has more than Earl, absoloutely no question about it.

 

[Timmey]

So...how does getting a yellow card...or a 5 minute major for fighting or Vince Lombardy kicking his players in the ass, make "sportsmen" out of them????


And DID YOU READ MY POST??? Appraently not all of it so here we go again about your beloved "Sportsman" Tony Drago

"His combination of exceptionally fast play and emotional temperament has made him a popular character in snooker, although he famously took some criticism for hurling his cue at the table and storming out of the arena following his 5-0 defeat to Mark Bennett in the 1996 Grand Prix, later accusing Bennett of bad sportsmanship because he had twice in the match suggested that Drago missed balls deliberately while snookered."

And there are A LOT more Tony stories, so get down off your high horse and realize that neither pool nor any other sport is for wimps.

When defensive human mountains sack a quarterback...THEY ARE TRY TO HURT THEM...VERY BADLY...OUT FOR THE SEASON WOULD BE JUST FINE!!!!

You really do have a very naive view of the world of competitive sports and sound more like a 4th grade gym teacher...with all due respect.

Jim

Jim, what's your point? I never mentioned the name Drago (up to NOW!), are you confusing members of this forum here? I am talking about your beloved low-as-can-get-Strickland, who invented the game and is the only one who knows how it's played...

 

[av84fun]

Which just goes to show how easy 9 ball is in comparison to snooker if a has-been never-quite-was like Tony Drago can do what he has done. And I'm sure all his wins have counted so far. Played 4 won 4. The statement being defended was about talent, not titles. Drago has it coming out of his ears. It's just not enough in snooker.

Boro Nut

Well, if his talent is coming out of his ears then maybe he ought to jam the butt of his cue in them because he doesn't win many championships using his hands.

Hey, I don't mind you admiring Drago...but you are being silly and self-delusional to suggest he is some model of sportsmanship or that he is even CLOSE to being one of the greatest players of all time IN ANY CUE SPORT!

You have to EARN your position of greatness you can't just walk around with a button on your chest saying so. He is obviously a very talented player but just has not been able to BRING IT in the heat of championship battle...where it counts!

Jim

 

[worriedbeef]

starts making the top players in the world look silly

i don't really see how he has done this. he's won a few races to six in nine ball this week. good wins yes, but that's hardly 'making the top players in the world look silly'. and he's won one notable tournament. an achievement don't get me wrong, but let's not get carried away.

and i could name probably 10 players minimum who could polish him off in a longer race. bustamante, earl, efren, harriman, archer, schmidt i can't be arsed to write more.

i like tony drago, he has always been a favourite to watch and he is a talented player. but the attitude seems to be sometimes that snooker players are god's gift with a cue and dismissing the talent of some of these pool players.

he's not exactly storming the pool scene and embarrising the pool players in reality.

oh and 'absolutely no question' drago more talented than earl? you must not have seen earl play is all i can say.

 

[Shawn Armstrong]

TheOne..."Drago probably has more talent than Earl ever had, as hard as that will be to believe by most Americans."

Your national loyalties are showing. The reason most Americans would not believe your statement is because it contains not one single shred of truth.

God Bless America!

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Watch snooker some time. Tony is one of the best in the world at the game. And, snooker is MUCH harder than 9-ball. Stephen Hendry refused to play 9-ball for the Euro teams for many years because he felt that 9-ball was checkers, whereas snooker is chess.

 

[av84fun]

Thanks Boro, at least you got my point

av84fun, its pretty clear you haven't seen much of Tony play, I've seen both up close and know boths records. I stand by my statement, when Earl moves over to Snooker and starts making the top players in the world look silly come back and we can continue this debate.
Talent/Abilty I might have used the wrong words I don't know, word it how you like but Tony Drago has more than Earl, absoloutely no question about it.

Well, thankfully, we'll never have to continue this debate because Earl is never going to migrate to snooker...nor is he going to be a walk on in next year's pro football summer training camps. Nor is he going to sign up for the NASA Astronaut program...but what does that have to do with Earl's record at 9 Ball and the virtual absence of one for Tony?

And there is no question that Tony has more talent/skill/heart than Earl?

You can THINK that all you want...because you can think whatever you wish but you have an insurmountable problem...becuase you can't PROVE it with the only proof that exists...their records.

In FACT, you can't even prove that Drago was/is or ever will be the best snooker player.

Game/Set/Match

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[av84fun]

Jim, what's your point? I never mentioned the name Drago (up to NOW!), are you confusing members of this forum here? I am talking about your beloved low-as-can-get-Strickland, who invented the game and is the only one who knows how it's played...

Sure you did...by reference...in post #77

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Originally Posted by av84fun
...when the RECORD shows, what he is best at is LOSING when it counts!


You are kidding, right?!?! [/QUOTE

As you know, I was referring to Drago and you clearly joined the fray on that subject.

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[Shawn Armstrong]

Oh...forgive me then. I must have forgotten his record of world and national 9 Ball championships. Please provide me with a list.

And for all you Drago lovers and Earl bashers...bite on this for a while...

His combination of exceptionally fast play and emotional temperament has made him a popular character in snooker, although he famously took some criticism for hurling his cue at the table and storming out of the arena following his 5-0 defeat to Mark Bennett in the 1996 Grand Prix, later accusing Bennett of bad sportsmanship because he had twice in the match suggested that Drago missed balls deliberately while snookered.

Drago's highest snooker world rankings position was number 10 (in 1998).

He reached the quarter-finals of the World Championship in 1988 (he has appeared in the tournament 11 times more, most recently in 2003/2004), the final of the Mita World Masters in 1991 (losing to Jimmy White), and the final of the International Open in 1997 (his only ranking event final, beaten by Stephen Hendry).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Drago

He only got to #10 in the world is SNOOKER...his MAIN SPORT...and you try to elevate him to some kind of world beater status...when the RECORD shows, what he is best at is LOSING when it counts!

"Tony Drago had much too much talent and not nearly enough ability."

That is TOO FUNNY! The road to Oblivion is paved with people who had talent but couldn't summon it when it counts, which seems to precisely described Drago.

So, take some DEEP BREATHS and try to calm down and get real.
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Jim

Wow. He lost to White AND Hendry? Only the two best cueists of the 20th century? I can't believe it - he must be a hack, then.

Look up how many 147s White and Hendry have. Then you'll see that Drago wasn't exactly beaten by bums.

And while we're at it, if the talent pool was as deep in the 80s and 90s as it is now, Strickland would be lucky to have 2 worlds and 2 opens. Today's players are much better than the Keiths and Earls of the 70s, 80s and 90s. Get over it. Your Ford Mustang from 1986 will get lit up by my 2008 VW GTI. It's EVOLUTION.

 

[Timmey]

Well, thankfully, we'll never have to continue this debate because Earl is never going to migrate to snooker...nor is he going to be a walk on in next year's pro football summer training camps. Nor is he going to sign up for the NASA Astronaut program...

...nor will he ever become a sportsman!

Game/Set/Match -> Europe!

 

[av84fun]

i don't really see how he has done this. he's won a few races to six in nine ball this week. good wins yes, but that's hardly 'making the top players in the world look silly'. and he's won one notable tournament. an achievement don't get me wrong, but let's not get carried away.

and i could name probably 10 players minimum who could polish him off in a longer race. bustamante, earl, efren, harriman, archer, schmidt i can't be arsed to write more.

i like tony drago, he has always been a favourite to watch and he is a talented player. but the attitude seems to be sometimes that snooker players are god's gift with a cue and dismissing the talent of some of these pool players.

he's not exactly storming the pool scene and embarrising the pool players in reality.

oh and 'absolutely no question' drago more talented than earl? you must not have seen earl play is all i can say.

TAP...TAP...TAP...

 

[Shawn Armstrong]

...nor will he ever become a sportsman!

Game/Set/Match -> Europe!

I laugh about the *****ing and whining because the broadcaster put up a video of Earl's antics from the past. If you're going to act like an idiot with a camera rolling, don't be surprised when you see your ass on the jumbotron for all to see.

There's a reason why you don't see Johnny or Ralf or anyone else on the big screeen. For Johnny, you'd have 3 clips or less. For Ralf, you'd have none. Don't feel bad for Earl because he did it to himself. If he wants to act like a chimp, then get a cage.

 

[TheOne]

Well, thankfully, we'll never have to continue this debate because Earl is never going to migrate to snooker...nor is he going to be a walk on in next year's pro football summer training camps. Nor is he going to sign up for the NASA Astronaut program...but what does that have to do with Earl's record at 9 Ball and the virtual absence of one for Tony?

And there is no question that Tony has more talent/skill/heart than Earl?

You can THINK that all you want...because you can think whatever you wish but you have an insurmountable problem...becuase you can't PROVE it with the only proof that exists...their records.

In FACT, you can't even prove that Drago was/is or ever will be the best snooker player.

Game/Set/Match

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ALl I know is when Tony Drago played Snooker well it made it look like the easiest game in the world. It is widely accepted that is a harder task then 9 ball. I was talking about natural talent/ability, Drago can line up shots and blow players away so quickly its scary. In addition to that almost EVERY 9 ball event he enters he finishes very well (many many Euro Tours which he almost solely plays). Now he's entered the Mosconi cup and done the same, he did the same in the masters once. This is NOT his sport.

I feel a need to remind you I am talking about cueing ability, not championships I made that clear. I also made it clear I am NOT talking about 9 ball.

It is clear you've never seen Drago play much or we probably wouldn't be having this conversation

PS
Go Europe!
Go Daryl! (World 9 Ball Champion, Ex Snooker Pro and not a patch on Drago at Snooker )

 

[efirkey]

Earl rose from the scourges of the earth and played a great match today

 

[showme87]

Put your euros up at the derby and we will see Earl pummel each one with a real prize! Oh thats right they can't make it they have to polish their trophy.

 

[streak]

I paid to watch the Mosconi cup on the net...but I wouldn't have if Earl wasn't on the team. He's one of a kind, and I wonder that you whiners don't appreciate the fact that he adds interest to your dull little lives. It'll be a shame when someone new comes along that you can complain about. I hope he stays around a long time....

 

[av84fun]

Wow. He lost to White AND Hendry? Only the two best cueists of the 20th century? I can't believe it - he must be a hack, then.

Look up how many 147s White and Hendry have. Then you'll see that Drago wasn't exactly beaten by bums.

And while we're at it, if the talent pool was as deep in the 80s and 90s as it is now, Strickland would be lucky to have 2 worlds and 2 opens. Today's players are much better than the Keiths and Earls of the 70s, 80s and 90s. Get over it. Your Ford Mustang from 1986 will get lit up by my 2008 VW GTI. It's EVOLUTION.

Let's focus on your word..."lost." I didn't suggest he is a "hack" which would be just as silly and uninformed and blatantly biased as anyone who would say...in so many words...that he was so great that he scared his competition "shitless." But you are correct that he LOST the VAST majority of all his championship tries...nearly ALL in fact.

And your suggestion that Earl, in his younger days, couldn't compete against todays players is just ignorant. Forget about his younger years...he won the U.S OPEN in 2000 and the World 9 Ball Championship as recently as 2002...tournaments in which a HUGE percentage of the top players of TODAY comepted.

And I suggest that you buy yourself some videos of Earl's matches in his prime...before SVB was born, for example and you will see him run 8,9,10 racks IN A ROW. You may not realize it but back then, 9 Ball was played with 9 balls on a 9 ft. pool table...with a cue stick with a leather tip on the end of it....AND HE OFTEN NEVER MISSED.

So you tell me. How would a player in today's arena beat an opponent WHO NEVER MISSED???

Do you think all those championships featured 5 inning per rack banger games???? Do your homework before making any furTHer embarrassing comments like that because you obviously have no idea what you are talking about.

GO EARL...BUST ALL YOUR CUES...YELL AT THE REFS...SAY "YO MOMMA" TO YOUR OPPONENTS..BE A SPORTING HERO LIKE MCENROE AND THE REST OF THE "BAD BOYS" WHO ARE THE MOST REVERED FIGURES IN ALL OF SPORTS...SHAKE IT UP...AND MAKE PEOPLE INTERESTED IN WATCHING THIS SPORT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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