And to all the people who play a safe during this BIH inning: thank you for a chance when there was none.
Easy 8B puzzle! ( taken from a real match )
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The reason Im saving 4 & 5 for last is because the 6 in the side gets me good shape on those and I can be straight or even have angle for them, it seems to me that you have a tighter position zone on the 7 for getting proper shape to move the 8, it would be pretty easy to end up having to stun the 7 to move the 8 or even end up on the wrong side of the 7. The majority of my playing is barbox 8 ball (even though I have a 9' table at home) because there are not many 9' tables around and the places that have them host tournaments on their barboxes and not their 9's. My #1 rule in barbox 8 ball is to go after problem balls immediately in case I miss it on my first try or I get bad position after the break out, I still have many choices left for shots.
I like it. Like I said earlier, most of us are probably going to run these balls out several different ways. Maybe I'm the only one here who views the 4 and 5 as "problem balls", but I do that because too many times when one of my runs end it's because I found myself too steep on balls like that. I have a feeling that if I saved the 6,5,4 as my last three balls, I'd be likely to end up a bit off angle on the 6, a bit off angle on the 5, and then have to work too hard to get good on the 4.
I consider the 1,2, and 6 as basically being "hangers". Any one of them could be key balls for the 8 ball no matter where it ends up. For my money I'm removing the ball on the rail ASAP and then getting the 8 loose. I think just for fun I'll trot down to the pool room this weekend and set this pattern up and shoot it different ways. I also just have the 9' at the house. I'll upload the video to youtube so you can all laugh at me.
I play almost 100% on Diamonds, its pretty easy to go across the table and back again if you get steep on the 4 or 5, maybe that's why I chose my route that way, or I just end up on the wrong side of a ball when I'm am planning a breakout.I like it. Like I said earlier, most of us are probably going to run these balls out several different ways. Maybe I'm the only one here who views the 4 and 5 as "problem balls", but I do that because too many times when one of my runs end it's because I found myself too steep on balls like that. I have a feeling that if I saved the 6,5,4 as my last three balls, I'd be likely to end up a bit off angle on the 6, a bit off angle on the 5, and then have to work too hard to get good on the 4.
I consider the 1,2, and 6 as basically being "hangers". Any one of them could be key balls for the 8 ball no matter where it ends up. For my money I'm removing the ball on the rail ASAP and then getting the 8 loose. I think just for fun I'll trot down to the pool room this weekend and set this pattern up and shoot it different ways. I also just have the 9' at the house. I'll upload the video to youtube so you can all laugh at me.
I play almost 100% on Diamonds, its pretty easy to go across the table and back again if you get steep on the 4 or 5, maybe that's why I chose my route that way, or I just end up on the wrong side of a ball when I'm am planning a breakout.
Me too on the diamonds. I won't say it's difficult to get there, I'm just saying that is where my only potential problem would be. I'm really looking forward to trying this out and filming the results. I just printed out the diagram and it's definitely not to scale
. I'll do my best.
Didn't need a vid for that yesterday or any prior days.I like it. Like I said earlier, most of us are probably going to run these balls out several different ways. Maybe I'm the only one here who views the 4 and 5 as "problem balls", but I do that because too many times when one of my runs end it's because I found myself too steep on balls like that. I have a feeling that if I saved the 6,5,4 as my last three balls, I'd be likely to end up a bit off angle on the 6, a bit off angle on the 5, and then have to work too hard to get good on the 4.
I consider the 1,2, and 6 as basically being "hangers". Any one of them could be key balls for the 8 ball no matter where it ends up. For my money I'm removing the ball on the rail ASAP and then getting the 8 loose. I think just for fun I'll trot down to the pool room this weekend and set this pattern up and shoot it different ways. I also just have the 9' at the house. I'll upload the video to youtube so you can all laugh at me.
You're still in control of the match if you play a good safety off the 7 but you can't run out because the 8 still doesn't have a pocket. Now I suppose a bank on the 8 isn't horrible but it's just not necessary.
There are plenty of occasions where playing a safety makes a lot of sense but not here. At some point you will have to make the 8 to win the game and the only sensible way to make the 8 pottable is by bumping it out after the 7.
Remember you are allready starting with ball in hand. You're a strong player on a barbox and you only have 1 problem ball and you have ball-in-hand.
What do you gain by not solving your problem and (possibly) getting ball-in-hand 1 more time further down the line? You gain nothing by it but you lose a whole lot by potting the 7 without bumping out the 8.
The more I think about it the more I agree with you.
Kinda late coming to the party.
I have 2 basic personal rules for 8 ball.
1) Never make a ball unless I have a plan to make them all
2) The plan calls for dealing with problems early rather than later.
3) If at all possible, Don't let a 650 back to the table. I have had my perfect safety solved by a good player (more than once
) and it feels like getting kicked in the gut.
It's a simple solution. A player that can't get out with plan A has no business playing a 650.
I have 2 basic personal rules for 8 ball.
1) Never make a ball unless I have a plan to make them all
2) The plan calls for dealing with problems early rather than later.
3) If at all possible, Don't let a 650 back to the table. I have had my perfect safety solved by a good player (more than once
) and it feels like getting kicked in the gut.It's a simple solution. A player that can't get out with plan A has no business playing a 650.
The 650 would also like ball in hand so he is going to kick softly and bury you behind his ball
Pretty easy 6, 4, 7 (break the 8), then 5, 1, 2, 8 or 5, 2, 1, 8 or even 1, 2, 5, 8 depending on final pattern. By playing 6 first you guarantee the proper angle on the 4 to be mid table for the 7 and breakout.
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I really like keeping the 5 on the table til after the breakout. Gives you more options for a good pattern no matter where the cb winds up.
7-1-6-5-4-2 8 in lower corner.
Who are you asking skip100, there was no reply to a specific person.
Just a general question to the peanut gallery
Yeah make the seven go rail first bump the 8 a little bit then play the one. Hit the right half of the seven
Most underrated comment here.
A lot of players just blast into it hoping for a break out.
You can make the 7 and hit the rail to bump out the 8 either for the lower right or lower left pocket, depending on how hard you want to hit it.