EBay - Watch out for this one

TATE said:
Koop, he posts here. It's Duc Lam, Cuemaster 98 from Canada.



Ps. he sells these imported full-splice blanks inexpensively, which are used on a lot of different cues.
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I bought one and had Alex Brick make a cue out of it and it looks and hits nice.

Mason worked on it, I think.
 
Cuemaster98 said:
hopefully when my SR8-A blank he converted prove itself in 3-5 years...I will be able to go back and get this cue signed and refinished with another shaft. I'm also waiting for a big cue from this gentleman...hopefully I'll be able to pick up in 3-5 years as well...going to be a one of a kind and the first of it kind.

regards,
Duc.
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DON'T MAKE PROMISES THAT YOU CAN'T/WON'T BE ABLE TO KEEP.
 
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masonh said:
definitely,especially is he is top 5 or 10 as the add somewhat says.posting his name is your best shot at getting the big money for this cue.i like the ringwork btw.
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IF HE WOULDN'T SIGN IT, WHY WOULD HE WANT HIS NAME ADVERTISED WITH IT.
 
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Ok guys...this somehow seem to be getting ugly. But just to answer some questions, the cuemaker as far as I know has no problem with me telling people he converted the cue. I chose to be discret and selective with those who knows (handful including a previous buyer who have had the maker built a matching predator shaft) and I'm a bit surprised from some of the comments posted on this thread.

Yes, the main reason the conversion was not signed was because it an unknown production blank and the maker strongly feel that he can't put his name on the conversion because it not one of his but mainly he doesn't know what will happen to the blank 5 years from now. Which is a very valid points to me and it why I stated that the maker may sign this cue 3-5 years from now it the maker approve of the quality after it has been tested by time. It's not a second or defective...but I understand why some would come to that conclusion....it's remain to be judge 5 years from now. LOL.

Also, this is my cue...I will list the cue anyway I like..if you don't just don't bid on it. I'm just proud to display and have this cue for sales and if anyone who can appreciate the work without the branding (important but) then they may buy it. I have no foul intention in misleading the buyer....the buyer who buys this cue will be buying based on quality of the work and Not who converted it!! This is why I don't want to list the builder name so that I can just sell the cue. If the quality is consider the best to him/her than he be willing to pay for it. Quality is Quality...no faking it!!!

I don't see why a builder would not want this caliber of work to be display and for sales. I'm very happy with this cue, I don't care if doesn't sell..and I won't sell unless the price reflect the quality of the work. It's up there for people who understand and can appreciate the work...regardless of the maker..but I mentioned I will let them know if they bought it just on the quality.

Regards,
Duc.
 
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I can't imagine selling a cue without stating who made it. And I would not buy a cue... without knowing the maker... if I could not personally examine and test hit before I purchased it.

With that being said, I do not doubt the quality of a Duc blank. I have one of the SRD conversions done by Jerry Olivier and it is a fantastic cue! It is my number one player and I get lot's of compliments on the looks. I could not be happier and have no complaints. Which probably explains why Jerry Olivier had no problem putting his name on this cue...

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=101621&highlight=jerry+olivier
 
there can also be another reason why the cuemaker doesnt want it be known, perhaps he doesnt normally do conversions. by putting his name on a conversion tho, he will be inviting ppl to start asking him to make conversions as well; something he does not want to do repeatedly.

that might not be the case here but its something to consider.
 
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Upon futher review . . .

After following the ebay link in order to view this cue there is only one thing I have to say. . .

"Man that is some dirty couch it's sitting on!" :eek:
 
Good looking cue. Ringwork looks a little Searing-esque. However, based on Duc's statements, I'd guess Hercek.

However, there is not a SINGLE HONEST valid reason for not disclosing the maker. Who in their right focking mind would buy something like this? It's not like one of those auction where someone is selling an old unknown cue and the mystery that comes with it, not to mention the minimal final price. But $1,500 on a guess? The simple fact is that if the cuemaker is soooo great (and this cue), their name would be mentioned first, highlighted, and in bold letters.

Best of luck for the seller.
 
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Is there any documentation that was sent with the cue to prove who converted it? Duc, I have owned one of your blanks converted by Joe Callaluca and it was well made, that's not the issue here. Just seems fishy, that's all.
 
As far as name, it is becoming more common that a Cue maker will only put his name on what he actually makes, not converts. Some will put initials instead of the name and some will just leave it blank.
JMO
 
Michael Webb said:
As far as name, it is becoming more common that a Cue maker will only put his name on what he actually makes, not converts. Some will put initials instead of the name and some will just leave it blank.
JMO
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Michael, I think that is a really good policy, and if everyone did it, alot of the so called cue makers may not be look at the same way.

Honest is certainly the best policy!

Take Care Michael.
 
Michael Webb said:
As far as name, it is becoming more common that a Cue maker will only put his name on what he actually makes, not converts. Some will put initials instead of the name and some will just leave it blank.
JMO
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Just curious, but if you were to do such a conversion and didn't put your name or initials on it, would you have any qualms about the seller stating that you had done the conversion? I can understand not marking what you didn't make, but the "need" for secrecy of who did the job eludes me.

Chris
 
imax said:
After following the ebay link in order to view this cue there is only one thing I have to say. . .

"Man that is some dirty couch it's sitting on!" :eek:
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Hahaha...yup my too little guys really works on them...its has cars, spiderman and batman drawn all over it. Crayon, Pen,dirt, yogurt and just about everything can imagine was thrashed on this couch. I'm actually kinda surprised it held up so long..LOL.

btw..the cue is no longer for sales.

Duc.
 
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Devilish48 said:
Just curious, but if you were to do such a conversion and didn't put your name or initials on it, would you have any qualms about the seller stating that you had done the conversion? I can understand not marking what you didn't make, but the "need" for secrecy of who did the job eludes me.

Chris
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Hi Chris:
I would have no problem with people knowing. A conversion on it's own merit is not a bad thing, Knowing who did it, plays an important role in some of these characteristics:
Playability, Fit, Finish, Joint, Shaft taper, and Butt taper and as a potential Cue buyer which is not me, Price. To not give up the name and my reading from the ad, there's speculation and assumption to the point of almost a challenge.
 
Duc,

In all honesty, I did not realize this was you and you have always seemed like a very honest, straight forward guy. All that said, if you look at this objectively I think you would come to the same conclusion, that it looks fishy.
Not saying you are doing anything wrong, just that, at first glance, and with all the scams going on with eBay, you could see why someone would question this auction.

Regards,
Koop
 
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