Ed Wheat...lets get it on...

Smorgass Bored said:
I am guessing that if you couldn't get to Eddie's Custom Cue Shop, that you could send him your very best suit and he could make your custom cue based on that.

He could measure your armspand by measuring your suit coat sleeves and the amount of cuff that you show. He could probably double-check the length of your cue by measuring your inseam (be sure to send a pair of your dress shoes along as a safeguard). Do you want cuffs on your pants or just a slight break in the crease ?

Sending your favorite tie, might insure the intricacy of any inlays.

Doug
(whatever you do, don't send your condoms, you might get........................................ moved to the bottom of the list)


*Edited to add: While you are ON medical leave, send him one of your gowns that opens down the back and see what he can come up with.... imo :)

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ACTUALLY I HAVE A VERY SIMPLE PROCESS THAT MY CUSTOMER'S USE TO DETERMINE THE NECCESARY INFO.


IT TAKES ABOUT 5 MIN. AND IS WELL WORTH THE TROUBLE !




-EDDIE WHEAT
 
Brian said:
Posted by Mr. Charlie Edwards in the Wanted/For Sale section:

(1) It takes 7 months to build 2 shafts? Get real.

(2) Blackjack's thread was more than 2 months ago.

(3) You believe it was unnecessary to bring this to this forum? LOL.

(4) I don't want any PM, email, or phone conversations with you. I want NO correspondence from you, except to receive my cue or refund.

(5) In another post you just made you stated that your customers know you. You have no idea just how true that is, at least in my case.

(6) I really don't believe I'll get my cue or refund. And I'm OK with that. I don't have any desire to have your cue, so that part of this doesn't matter to me. And it would be unbelievable to expect a refund. You see, Eddie, I live in the real world. And I can well afford the loss. No big deal.

(7) So, Eddie, do whatever you want. Do it your way. But expect me to do the same.

(8) This mess you created is in NO way my fault. This is all on you. It's just that you don't seem to have what it takes to admit that.
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With all due respect... you obviously aree clueless about cue building and how long it takes to PROPERLY cure shaftwood to insure consistancy so I'm going to stop right there becasue I can see your motives are not sincere in any way whatsoever and you have no desire in hearing logical and creditable explainations !


- Eddie Wheat
 
Fart sniffer said:
This weekend I had a chance to see one of Mr. Wheat's cues, it was very interesting looking to say the least. The person it was made for is short, therefore the cue was a lot shorter than standard and it was very thin because the person it was made for "had very small hands".

To say it was custom is an understatement, the entire cue was miniaturized to a certain degree due to the stature of the player. Even the joint size was very small to be in proportion to the rest of the cue. I didn't get a chance to hit with it but the finish was a bit wavy, also realized that Mr. Wheat cores his cues which I didn't know about.
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I do NOT recall building a miniturized cue... and I do NOT core ALL my woods only the ones that are neccesary !!!

I am NOT saying I didn't build it but if it was birdseye maple and it was wavy.. it's because the wood soaked up the finish and the customer had to have it yesterday so I warranty such occasions with a FREE refinishing for locals who "test drive" thier cues !


- Eddie Wheat
 
JoeyInCali said:
Custom cuemakers have normal parameters they want to keep and sometime deviate from if needed.
IF a maker wants to get famous for the hit of his cues, his construction and specs have to be consistent.
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Excellent point !

This is exactly what I have been trying point out !

I CANNOT become famous for a certain hit or consistancy becasue I do NOT build cues MY way !!!

I offer a custom tailoring process that entails the customers EXACT specifications which includes HIT, FEEL and PLAYABILITY !

I do NOT understand why this is so hard for everyone to understand !

WHEN I introduce the "silver Wheat" line then they will be consistant cues... but I am concerned right now about the "gold wheat" which is once again 100% custom fitted and tailored cues to the customers 100% specifications including hit, feel and playability !

I build the cues any diameter desired as well as use any joint pin and custom tapers on both the butt and shaft !

You guys need to completely remove everything you know about custom cues out of the equation when it comes to classifying me in this field... I do NOT wish to become notorious for building "art" or "typical" cues...

I am a true custom cuemaker that caters 100% to the customers designs expectations playability, hit and feel !!!

I cannot stress this enough.... I am an outside the box cuemaker and have ZERO desire to be grouped in with the avg. style, avg. length, avg. balance point to fit the avg. player cuemakers... simply becasue not everyone is avg. as far as physical dimensions and style of play goes !


This is beginning to be a mute point as far as trying to explain what exactly I do and I question the sincereity of some of these posts... are you guys really interested in understanding my contribution or are you just breaking my b*LLS !




- Eddie Wheat
 
WheatCues said:
With all due respect... you obviously aree clueless about cue building and how long it takes to PROPERLY cure shaftwood to insure consistancy so I'm going to stop right there becasue I can see your motives are not sincere in any way whatsoever and you have no desire in hearing logical and creditable explainations !


- Eddie Wheat
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Try not to insult your customers Eddie.
After all, they gave you business.
The man is stuck $700.
He trusted you with that money.
What does he get in return?
 
skins said:
Eddie, with all respect i've been in the cue business for over 20 years and know that "every other custom cuemaker" has a "normal" spec for their cues that not only categorizes but personifies and defines as well, their playability. from methods of construction to way the parts are tapered, finished, to many others etc......are you saying you don't?

most makers have a "constant" that defines their cues and good ones can work a customers "needs" into that constant making their cue not only one as asked but one that also has all the characteristics in it that makes it that makers. imo a great cue maker is one that can take the demands from a customer and produce a cue that plays to their (the makers) definition.
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Exactly !

The only thing that makes my cues "mine" my signature/ logo that's on the cue !

I could care less about becoming a famous celebrity cuemaker.... I'm here to build tools for players !!!

And if I can increase your games overall performance by 25% without you having to call a finance company just to afford my custom cues... then I have acheived my goal !

And that's good enough for me !



- Eddie WHeat
 
I think this method is trying to be all things to all people. Most cuemakers do have a signature feel/hit. it allows the cuemaker to deliver a product with confidence. If according to your claim you could not just send out a cue to different players because they would not like it, how do you judge a cue when its ready to ship? This scenario HAS to happen to you.

You build said cue. You test hit [i assume]
It hits terrible [ not your specs,totally designed by someone else remember]
You ship cue.

Is this right?

Options are o.k but i would never let a customer tell me to tottaly redesign my cue, then have me put my name on it.. I am not a cuemaker.
 
WheatCues said:
With all due respect... you obviously aree clueless about cue building and how long it takes to PROPERLY cure shaftwood to insure consistancy so I'm going to stop right there becasue I can see your motives are not sincere in any way whatsoever and you have no desire in hearing logical and creditable explainations !


- Eddie Wheat
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Time to look in the mirror and check your own motives.My complaint with you Mr.Wheat involves you posting a thread regarding "turn around time" all the while knowing you were not keeping to your stated delivery deadline.You exploited the misery of another cue maker for self promotion.You are shameless.Save your excuses, your credibility is zero."With all due respect you obviously are clueless about" customer relations,ordering proper materials and keeping to deadlines.You are strictly an opportunist motivated by self promotion and attention.What you call a credible explaination the rest of the buying public calls Bull$hit!

Brian
 
WheatCues said:
Exactly !

The only thing that makes my cues "mine" my signature/ logo that's on the cue !

I could care less about becoming a famous celebrity cuemaker.... I'm here to build tools for players !!!

And if I can increase your games overall performance by 25% without you having to call a finance company just to afford my custom cues... then I have acheived my goal !

And that's good enough for me !




- Eddie WHeat
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i don't get your point Eddie. are you saying that because the cues are completely customized they no longer have any constants, especially ones that may have taken you years to get right that affect that certain play ability, except for your signature? do you want everyone to believe that all your cues all play different? i understand that some customers might want tad softer hit so they may choose a different joint or ferrule tip combo or a myriad of possible changes to achieve this or maybe just a little longer taper to their shaft but what i'm hearing you say is that every cue is so customized that the hit changes from cue to cue, maybe even can't be predicted, but the customer will end up with the perfect cue for their stroke, stance, hight, weight, hand size, arm length, etc...... are you saying that in spite of all that customizing it will still play great like every other cue you make. if you are then why not take the poster up on their idea to get you name more out there by doing an "around the horn" deal with a cue. it seems that any cue you would make would serve as a good "Bench" for just about any player. if it performs well then the customized versions will only make more of a plus for potential future customers.............


skins ------------ thinks Eddie should do one to go "around the horn"........
 
WheatCues said:
With all due respect... you obviously aree clueless about cue building and how long it takes to PROPERLY cure shaftwood to insure consistancy so I'm going to stop right there becasue I can see your motives are not sincere in any way whatsoever and you have no desire in hearing logical and creditable explainations !


- Eddie Wheat
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On 16 July 2008 you posted the following:

This is a thread that probably should be listed in ask the cuemaker section but since it's directed at both the customer and cuemaker I thought I would post it here....

Anyone with past experience with dealing with cuemakers or or vice-versa what are the avg. trunaround times that you have encountered as the customer and/or turnaround times you have alotted as the cuemaker and have exceeded due to unforseen delays ???

This question is for my general knowlege and being a NEW CUEMAKER on the scene I wouldnt want to dissapoint or create and long-term damage to my reputation with any customers due to possible lengthy delays from my inexperience with national and international sudden exposure and influx of orders...

I'm currently pushing 90-120 days turnaround time... do you as cuemakers and customers feel this is reasonable or too short or too long for the average completion time ????

All feedback and opinions is very welcomed and I am being very sincere about this question....

After all..... it's all about customer service and their invested interests !!!




Thanks, Eddie Wheat

At the time of starting that thread you were about 6 1/2 months into Mr.Edwards cue, which he still has not received.Where is the honesty in your actions? Best you take your own inventory before you question the motivations of others.

Brian
 
WheatCues said:
And I agree with you every sport has a standardization with there equipment and then there's customized equipment just like golf clubs, bowling balls, etc....

That's were I come in.....

Yes I could build a standard cue with a standard hit with a standard balance point, etc... but then I would be just like every other custom cuemaker and this market is saturated with typical 58" lengths and avg. balance point cuemaking style !

But each and every player is not standard height, standard arm spand and standard stroke range... so how can you expect a 58" cue with "standards" to fit everyone perfectly ? YOU CAN'T ! so once again... that's where I come in !


Very Sincerely, Eddie Wheat
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If that is truly how you feel, then why are you planning to release a line of cues not made to the exact measurements of and to the exact specifications of each individual customer labeled with the silver wheat symbol?

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"The second line will feature an engraved "silver" straw of wheat which will indicate this cue is NOT custom fitted and is average balanced for the NOW avg. player's armspand and most of these cues will be 60" in length with my style hit and playability... and a dedicated numbering system as well...." *

* copied and pasted from http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=99185 @ 12:24 am est on 07/29/2008.... added that just in case he edits what he posted/ That post by Eddie was "Last edited by WheatCues : 05-15-2008 at 09:23 PM. "
 
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you ever get the feeling that he has two mouths, that speak opposite of each other? Well, at least he can't put other makers down anymore for their wait lists and and them being late on delivery. He originally had a 7-10 day turn around when he first showed up here in 2006, then he got two orders and had to changed it to 90-120++days :grin:
 
WheatCues said:
I do NOT recall building a miniturized cue... and I do NOT core ALL my woods only the ones that are neccesary !!!

I am NOT saying I didn't build it but if it was birdseye maple and it was wavy.. it's because the wood soaked up the finish and the customer had to have it yesterday so I warranty such occasions with a FREE refinishing for locals who "test drive" thier cues !


- Eddie Wheat
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The cue was Ebony which is what made it easy to see that it was cored, at the joint and under the bumper you could see the maple core. You may not recall building it, but I had it in my hands and it was pretty neat. You are taking this like I am accusing you of something, you don't have to get defensive with me I am not attacking you in any way.
 
Ed,best of luck bud.

You pass because only two of ten might like it.You miss the fact that seven of ten MAY LOVE it.
That sir,to me anyway,says more about your ability..... and your own confidance in that ability .......then any thousand word post pronouncing it.

Frankly and honestly I'm amazed you let this ride without a ''Hell Yeah!!! Lets get started!!"
 
Fart sniffer said:
The cue was Ebony which is what made it easy to see that it was cored, at the joint and under the bumper you could see the maple core. You may not recall building it, but I had it in my hands and it was pretty neat. You are taking this like I am accusing you of something, you don't have to get defensive with me I am not attacking you in any way.
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I didn't mean to sound defensive so I appologize if I came off that way... I have built alot of cues for locals over the years and I just didn't remember that one in particular !

Thanks for the constructive comments... they are greatly appreciated !


Take care, Eddie WHeat
 
Dave38 said:
you ever get the feeling that he has two mouths, that speak opposite of each other? Well, at least he can't put other makers down anymore for their wait lists and and them being late on delivery. He originally had a 7-10 day turn around when he first showed up here in 2006, then he got two orders and had to changed it to 90-120++days :grin:
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Yeah well, my wait time is still less than thiers even with all the delays...
so what smart ass remark do you have now about my turnaround time ?:D


- Eddie Wheat
 
Gunn_Slinger said:
Eddie the last comments in this thread were made over two weeks ago. Why would you start it over again?
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Because I accidentally deleted my subsciption apparently.. and while I was browsing the threads I came across this one and read the last few entries and noticed I didn't answer back on the last comment directed at me !

I hope my explaination meets your approval.. I didn't realize my general actions were under such scrutiny until just now...:D



- Eddie Wheat
 
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