Ed Wheat...lets get it on...

Oh Dear...

Firstly, if you choose to post on the www whatever you write is available for the public - not just your closest friends. If you want to keep things between friends, write them a letter or an email. This point should be obvious, but perhaps it isn't since you seem a bit confused about it.

Secondly, I am sure Mr Edwards will be glad to know that his cue is now underway. I am also sure that this is completely new to him, and that he will keep us posted 'when' he receives the cue :thumbup:

Cheers
 
poker2341 said:
Firstly, if you choose to post on the www whatever you write is available for the public - not just your closest friends. If you want to keep things between friends, write them a letter or an email. This point should be obvious, but perhaps it isn't since you seem a bit confused about it.

Secondly, I am sure Mr Edwards will be glad to know that his cue is now underway. I am also sure that this is completely new to him, and that he will keep us posted 'when' he receives the cue :thumbup:

Cheers
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Mr edwards is well aware of the latest news flash from another thread before the "clowns" managed to get that closed too.. it seems they are on a mission to strategically remove my existance from AZ one thread at a time... if you have noticed the pattern of behavior : every thread I start is converted into a dogpile and driven completely opposite of it's intended purpose... it seems I'm stepping on alot of toes with my cue prices and quality of my work and my advertising methods don't"sparkle" with a few of these troublemakers !


- Eddie Wheat
 
Eddie, I gotta call you out on this.

WheatCues said:
I am NOT "threatening" to committ suicide...
- Eddie Wheat
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Yes you did......very publicly. These are the exact words:

From Eddie's MySpace page:

I refuse to goto prison becasue of court costs and I will cash in my chips and try my luck in the next life it comes to that !


You clearly threatened suicide if you don't get $2500 in the next 4 days. How else can that be interpreted?

Smorg does not get serious unless something serious is going on. Did you happen to notice he got serious?

AND... get over the notion that anything you put on the net is private.
 
WheatCues said:
Mr edwards is well aware of the latest news flash from another thread before the "clowns" managed to get that closed too.. it seems they are on a mission to strategically remove my existance from AZ one thread at a time... if you have noticed the pattern of behavior : every thread I start is converted into a dogpile and driven completely opposite of it's intended purpose... it seems I'm stepping on alot of toes with my cue prices and quality of my work and my advertising methods don't"sparkle" with a few of these troublemakers !


- Eddie Wheat
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You are not innocent Eddie. You are just as much at fault for getting threads removed and locked.

Your prices seem reasonable, your quality is good but just like Kevin your customer service relations need a massive overhaul. Soon customers won't care about the prices or the quality because they will pay a little more for the lack of hassle. JMHO.

Let me ask you a question. If you were running a store front business and these same people came into your store would you talk to them the same way you talk to them on here?

BVal
 
WheatCues said:
..... I have enough equity in that machine to secure the small short term loan and still maintain my vitality and cuemaking business...
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Since it was me who posted the sort of general advice about loans being secured on pieces of equipment as I would post in any situation in which I have some legal type information or experience which might be of value and since you have now posted the above comment in apparent follow up of that aspect it is only fair that I don't just abandon the subject.

I don't know if it's what you intended to come across meaning-wise or not, but the above to me sounds like you are saying that you are not the outright fully paid up sole owner of that machine. It also implies there might be some outstanding finance arrangements on it. Using the equity share of its ownership that you personally presently have for security is quite a different prospect for a prospective lender than if you were the sole fully paid up owner of it and if it were not the subject of any outstanding hire purchase or bank finance.

You will appreciate that a lender is going to want to know if you own it outright or if anyone else has a potential lien on the machine. If you are going to pursue the seeking of a loan secured in this way you might want to consider clearing this aspect up immediately with any lender who expresses interest otherwise you are simply going to waste time you don't have when any lender eventually gets down to such fundamental things later.

The other parts of your post don't concern anything I posted and I don't want to comment on the rights or wrongs of posting the sort of information which others have posted as there is no easy answer to that covering all given circumstances.

I hope you find a satisfactory solution.
 
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not bashing here......but as a cuemaker starting out why on earth would you spend 15k on a cnc?
 
WheatCues said:
Unfortunately I cannot sell my CNC for 2500.00 that's why I'm asking for a loan for that amount becasue that machine can easily sell for 10,000.00 no problem at all !
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So let me understand your situation....If you don't pay the courts 2500.00 by Friday you go to jail...Right?? So now your looking for someone to loan you 2500.00 with no security, and your promise to repay the lender 5000.00 in one years time..is this correct? Now you claim you own your CNC, and your not willing to sell it to avoid prison time...please explain..:confused:
 
WheatCues said:
For those interested.. I will keep you posted on my progress !

Also 2 cues are shipping out this week:

Charlie Edwards - TX
Jordan Burnett - CA

More to follow ! "hopefully" ;)



- Eddie Wheat
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Good Luck Eddie!
I am so glad to see you sending out some cues.
Perhaps you will get some positive comments when that happens.
Wish I could help you but I need to go do some work for money myself.
 
Can you produce a paid in full, by you, bill of sale for the machine?

If you can read on.........

I can have someone there Thurs to pick up the machine and make the money transfer for $2500 to you. You will have 365 days from Thurs, Aug 21 2008 to return $5000 cash to me on Aug 21, 2009 for the return of the machine to you or the agreement will be considered a bill of sale for the $2500.
I want to be able to use the machine for the 365 days as part of the interest.
You will also be responsible for transporting the machine back to your shop.

These are some general guidelines to start with. Let me know.
 
BVal said:
Let me ask you a question. If you were running a store front business and these same people came into your store would you talk to them the same way you talk to them on here?

BVal
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Would strangers come in off the street and start bad mouthing Eddie like they do here?

Works both ways, BVal.
 
BVal said:
You are not innocent Eddie. You are just as much at fault for getting threads removed and locked.

Your prices seem reasonable, your quality is good but just like Kevin your customer service relations need a massive overhaul. Soon customers won't care about the prices or the quality because they will pay a little more for the lack of hassle. JMHO.

Let me ask you a question. If you were running a store front business and these same people came into your store would you talk to them the same way you talk to them on here?

BVal
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I was not saying I had nothing to do with it.. of course it takes two to argue... unless of course your bi-polar.... :p

I respond accordingly !

I handle each person differently depending on thier disposition and mannerisms.... those who show respect get it and those who disrespect me get alot more than they expected !

Believe it or not, I'm a very nice guy and are very easy to do business with and are not stuck up or think everyting I touch is worth it's weight in gold...

So to answer your question... if anyone walked into MY store showing courtesy than that's exactly what they receive in return... but the instant you start insulting me or make me feel inferior than we have a problem and I would ask you to leave or ignore me !

I'm a relatively small guy and have a real problem with bullies and also others thinking they are better than you becasue they weren't caught !

We are ALL human and we all have problems.. some choose to live a very discrete mysterious lifestyle, while others like me are used to living wide open with nothing to hide... this obviously draws alot of fire but that goes with the territory and I can definitley handle it... But I won't be disrespected or pushed around by anybody without standing my ground !

When I'm wrong I will be the first to admit it and usualy bring my errors to everyone elses attention before they get the chance to point them out !

I have alot of years in retail sales and are quite talented in that area and even though I'm not proud of my inate ability I do find it quite useful when promoting "WheatCues" and dealing with such a large number of unknowns and mixed crowds such as AZB ro generate sales and exposure...

I have to accept the good with the bad and of course I don't expect everyone to approve of me or even like me, but I am dealing with percentages here and for every 1 person that has a problem with my adverstising methods or toe-stepping issues their are atleast 10 who don't and these 10 people are who I care about becasue they are potential customers not the 1 who will NEVER buy and just want's to make him self feel good for whatever reason by trying to crash someones business !

I develop a personal relationship with ALL my customers becasue you aren't just buying a cue...you are also buying the service after the sale !

I advertise on here becasue I am NOT solidified in the industry well enough yet for the majority of AZ'r and the rest of the world to advertise for me so I must put myself out every chance I get becasue let's face it.. none of you would know who "Eddie Wheat" is if it wasn't for me marketing "WheatCues" on AZB

You have to start somewhere and I chose AZB for obvious reasons and it has been very good to me overall !

I know I can go off on a tangent occasionally and I appologize for the excessive rant !


Take care, Eddie Wheat
 
bigskyjake said:
60% of the time, I beat the 3 ball ghost every time
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travis just go beat on your dad some more and you will be able to beat the three ball ghost 61 per cent of the time or at least more often than you are doing it right now
:smile:
joeya
 
Fart sniffer said:
So now it's just down to the answer of the $64k question, does he own the machine outright?
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Yes I own the machine out right it has about 6 hrs of use on it and I paid 15k cashiers check for it !

I do NOT want to sell it....

My life is cheap at the moment but NOT that cheap !!!




- Eddie WHeat
 
BarenbruggeCues said:
Can you produce a paid in full, by you, bill of sale for the machine?

If you can read on.........

I can have someone there Thurs to pick up the machine and make the money transfer for $2500 to you. You will have 365 days from Thurs, Aug 21 2008 to return $5000 cash to me on Aug 21, 2009 for the return of the machine to you or the agreement will be considered a bill of sale for the $2500.
I want to be able to use the machine for the 365 days as part of the interest.
You will also be responsible for transporting the machine back to your shop.

These are some general guidelines to start with. Let me know.
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Dave I appreciate your offer and hopefully I will not have to take you up on that.... it's a long way from you to me for just 2500.00 so I'm hoping to keep the machine local for all intensive purposes !

I am going to exhaust all of my avenues and resources first before relying on anyone elses generosity !

p.s. yes I have the original stamped BIll of sale it's in my safe where my money used to be....


Thank you, Eddie Wheat
 
You Know What I Would Do............GET MARRIED

WheatCues said:
Yeah I take it with a grain of salt.... after all, I DID post this myself originally but NOT on AZB so it's not like I'm upset or was wronged in anyway....

Thank you for the optmistic wish and I will probably need it... "alot of it !"


Take care, Eddie WHeat
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Eddie, your MySpace link is in your AZB Profile. You seemed desperate to avoid jail, not have your grandma die while you're in jail and threatened to take your life if you couldn't find a way out of this mess by Friday.

I took it serious and despite others opinions of my post and with the possibility of being Banned, I thought that posting your personal dilemma here might actually help or find a suitable solution.

As much as I dislike your sales tactics, I'd hate to see you take you own life. I still hope for a workable solution to your problem in the short time left.

Doug
(just because I don't want you to die, doesn't mean that I LIKE you ) :)
 
hangemhigh said:
Hey EW, I'll give you $2500 for the Alignrite and an option to buy it back for whatever costs I incur picking it up plus the $2500. PM me and we can work it out.
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EW, I offered you this deal early this morning. You chose to ignore it, but didn't ignore a hard ball offer from someone else. My offer is now off the table. Good luck.
 
Smorgass Bored said:
Eddie, your MySpace link is in your AZB Profile. You seemed desperate to avoid jail, not have your grandma die while you're in jail and threatened to take your life if you couldn't find a way out of this mess by Friday.

I took it serious and despite others opinions of my post and with the possibility of being Banned, I thought that posting your personal dilemma here might actually help or find a suitable solution.

As much as I dislike your sales tactics, I'd hate to see you take you own life. I still hope for a workable solution to your problem in the short time left.

Doug
(just because I don't want you to die, doesn't mean that I LIKE you ) :)
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I wasn't upset at you for doing it... in all actuality it's a blessing in disguise becasue this exposure had rewarded me with a couple of phone calls with loan offers....

So it looks like you might be soley responsible for helping resolve this problem...

And if I cannot succesfully obtain the loan locally and are forced to take the offers via "phone call" and "PM's... to show my appreciation for your efforts and the fact that you cared... I WILL BUILD YOU A CUSTOM FITTED CUE AT NO CHARGE !

I feel it would be the very least I could do to show my sincere appreciation for your efforts...


Take care and thanks again !


- Eddie Wheat
 
what you are actually saying . . .

Eddie,

What you are actually saying is that your life isn't worth fifteen thousand or whatever the machine is actually worth now. Think about it. You can make cues without a CNC machine but you may have a hard time making them in the can and I am pretty sure you won't be delivering any on this plane if you are dead.

I have owned several storefronts in very rough areas and the question often came up as to if I would really shoot someone for stealing a few dollars, a few hundred dollars, or a few thousand dollars. I always told the people asking that the other person set the value on their life when they tried to steal from me, I didn't. Right now you are saying your CNC is worth more than your life and freedom.

Just some food for thought. Good luck however things turn out.

Hu



WheatCues said:
Yes I own the machine out right it has about 6 hrs of use on it and I paid 15k cashiers check for it !

I do NOT want to sell it....

My life is cheap at the moment but NOT that cheap !!!




- Eddie WHeat
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