Efren's famous shot animated

Wasn't it a shot on the 5 ball or the 6 ball or something?

I remember, that he hooked himself on the safe, after he pocketed a ball on the saftey accidentally. Then he 2 rail kicked it in. The next shot was he had to draw the ball for the shot on the ball before the 9, which he hit it like a chump, and then he nailed the next ball in and came off the side rail to recover spectacularly, to get position on the 9, and then Earl threw in the towel.

TIME asia has a bunch of retards on their staff.

If your gonna explain the shot, at least explain it right!
 
SUPERSTAR said:
Wasn't it a shot on the 5 ball or the 6 ball or something?

I remember, that he hooked himself on the safe, after he pocketed a ball on the saftey accidentally. Then he 2 rail kicked it in. The next shot was he had to draw the ball for the shot on the ball before the 9, which he hit it like a chump, and then he nailed the next ball in and came off the side rail to recover spectacularly, to get position on the 9, and then Earl threw in the towel.

TIME asia has a bunch of retards on their staff.

If your gonna explain the shot, at least explain it right!
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---From the Atlantic Journal---
A year before that match, in Reno, Nevada, Reyes beat Strickland in a nine-ball game with what has become known as "the Shot."

"It was the greatest shot ever made in pool," Archer told me. "Efren's cue ball was behind the nine, so he couldn't hit the object ball, the five. It was a no-escape shot. But Efren hit the cue ball off two rails before it cut in the five and gave him perfect position for the six."
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So what's the true story?

I can't imagine playing the shot as shown in the animation. I'd have come off the left side rail, unless that angle was hooked badly.
 
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I'd like to know how long he studied the table before shooting?

Did he use his cue, etc. to line up the shot?

Or did he just walk up and whack it?
 


I can't imagine playing the shot as shown in the animation. I'd have come off the left side rail, unless that angle was hooked badly.
So what's the true story?
He tried to play safe on the 5. The 5 caromed off the 8-ball and hooked him.
The cb was hooked and even worse the another ball was in the way.
I gotta pull video tape out so I can diagram it perfectly.
But, he kicked at the 5, got shape on the 6. Got a little funny on the 7 but slapped it and got great shape on the 9.
Earl conceded the match and raised Efren's hand.
 
He was shooting at the 5 and stopped the cue ball to hook Earl and he shit the 8 in. He was too close to the 9 to kick one rail so he looked from one side of the table and then the other and one last look at the 5 and kicked 2 rails amd made it and the house came down.
 
Colin Colenso said:
So what's the true story?
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Wait a minute. You've never actually seen the shot on the video?

WOW.

This is an instance where i would tell you to go to the accustats websight, and order this tape. The match itself, is not the greatest i have seen, but that shot is well worth the price of admission.
You will not believe your eyes, and will be rewinding it a ton of times, and if your one of those people that gets emotional with the "thrill of victory, and the agony of defeat", you are gonna be overwhelmed at the power of this moment.
The first time you see it?!?!?! aaaaaw man!
LOL...The tension, the suspense of hill hill, ESPECIALLY when he hooks himself, and then your thinking that he has no chance at all, and then he pulls this one out of the bag of tricks to totally bring the house down. And THEN, after that shot, he draws the cue ball like Mary Poppins to leave himself a funky angle on the ball before the 9.
TONS OF SUFFER IN THE CASE GAME!

Best hill hill finish you will ever see IMO.
If you don't want to get the match, it is also featured on one of the highlight tapes.
I'm sure whoever answers the phone could tell you which one has it.
 
SUPERSTAR said:
Wait a minute. You've never actually seen the shot on the video?

WOW.
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I haven't seen it, nor it seems have the folks at Time Asia, but thanks for the play by play!

It's now on my list of things to do :D
 
Colin Colenso said:
I haven't seen it, nor it seems have the folks at Time Asia, but thanks for the play by play!

It's now on my list of things to do :D
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Damn, when I saw "animation" I was hoping for a Bakshi treatment of the shot and the finish, like in "Fritz the Cat" or "Heavy Traffic."
 
Anyone have a good idea of the shot described in the same article about Reyes when he was playing Cliff?
 
JoeyInCali said:


I can't imagine playing the shot as shown in the animation. I'd have come off the left side rail, unless that angle was hooked badly.
So what's the true story?
He tried to play safe on the 5. The 5 caromed off the 8-ball and hooked him.
The cb was hooked and even worse the another ball was in the way.
I gotta pull video tape out so I can diagram it perfectly.
But, he kicked at the 5, got shape on the 6. Got a little funny on the 7 but slapped it and got great shape on the 9.
Earl conceded the match and raised Efren's hand.
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Actually, the logic behind playing the animated shot the way Efren did was that your approach to the object ball is cut-down. The final leg of the shot has a cue-ball going directly at the object ball with the end-rail having no impact on whether you attain contact. There's an excellent chance of making contact and pocketing the 8-ball which is really Efren's specialty. I'm not going to begin to suggest that this is exactly the way I would have played it (I'd probably look for a 1-railer, too) but it should be noted that the real genius behind this shot is that the odds of being successful were as high as they were going to be, considering the circumstances.
 
Colin Colenso said:
I found this shot on the net.

Hope it works for you:
http://www.time.com/time/asia/magazine/2001/1224/table_flash/shooting.html

Maybe someone can fill us in on the details leading up to that shot and the consequences.
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Did you also see this article on reyes.
http://www.time.com/time/asia/arts/magazine/0,9754,188599,00.html#

I notice the shot is linked from this article.

Thanks for posting this. I am doing a search now on Time and looking what other pool related things they have.

http://www.time.com/time/searchresults?search_date_range=range&searchnav=radioValue&query=Billiards&from_month=01&from_day=01&from_year=1923&to_month=12&to_day=31&to_year=2005&x=34&y=13
 
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Billy_Bob said:
I'd like to know how long he studied the table before shooting?
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He spent a fair amount of time studying it, but not excessive. He looked for alternatives, but realized it was the only option he had. (Ralf Souquet would still be studying it to this day :rolleyes: )

Did he use his cue, etc. to line up the shot?

Or did he just walk up and whack it?
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No he didn't use his cue to line it up or go over on the rail and put his finger where he wanted to hit it or anything else. He just called upon his experience and probably thought of billiards and took the shot. I wouldn't say he just whacked it.

It was nicknamed "the shot heard round the world" and the match is on accu-stats. Earl actually jumped out of his seat and applauded him with a big smile on his face appreciating what Efren had just done. If I remember right Earl held Efren hand in the air like in a boxing match acknowledging the champ.
 
The thing that amazes me about that shot, is that contrary to what many believe to have been luck, Reyes (I've heard) was seen the night before practicing two rail kicks similar to that shot. And what makes it even more unbelievable is that in this particular shot, because of the position of the balls, it wasn't a pure geometrical two rail kick. He was forced with a very narrow angle to the first rail to get by the first ball which normally would have come up way shallow. He had to use inside (or against the angle) english, and enough of it to stay on the cue ball until it hit the second rail in order to compensate for coming up shallow on the second rail. If it is true that he was actually practicing shots like that, it's proof that he had the intention of adding such a shot to his arsenal of 'magic' that only he could could come up with. Try it at home............it's scary when you think of just how much juice he had to put on the cue ball for it to take action off the second cushion after going opposite into the first cushion.
By the way, if I remember right, before he made the shot, he stepped up into the stands to get a good look at the table from far above the playing level.
dave
 
Tokyo-dave said:
... if I remember right, before he made the shot, he stepped up into the stands to get a good look at the table from far above the playing level.
dave
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I don't remember it that way, I'll have to drag out the video again. It is generally a match worth watching again anyways.
 
All in all...

It still was a tremendous shot and win for Efren... The magician...

Forgetta bout the details!
 
As I recall, Earl saluted the pool gods for making Efren's safety pocket a ball. Then Efren made that shot. :eek:
 
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