Efren's New One Pocket Break??
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There has been many people here at the derby using a new break. I would liken it to a modified straight pool break. Shawn Putnam was the first person I saw use it, in the first round against Bustamante. I don't know if he came up with it, but since then I have seen many top players practicing it. Scott Frost just used it against Django on the TV table.
Seems to be pretty effective if you can make it consistent.
Seems to be pretty effective if you can make it consistent.
Head string break? Who doesn't break from the head string? Did you mean head ball break? A few players are doing it. They lose their advantage by not moving many balls toward their hole
Efren was breaking normally. Breaking with tradition? Or not breaking with tradition?
Freddie <~~~ entendrically speaking
This break was shown in Winning One Pocket by Eddie Robin. The example showed Buddy clipping the second to last ball in the rack and bringing the cue ball around 2 rails to the end rail next to the head string. It doesn't move many balls toward your hole.
Primarily used when your opponent's corner ball is leaking out on your break. Frost was using this break on the stream today.
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Shawn hit the second ball behind the head ball and it seemed to move more balls. I've also seen it done with the back ball and the second to the last ball.
This particular break was popular on 10 ftr or playing on 1 pkct on the snooker table as distance after the break was seen as being worth the lack of spread. I don't think this break is very strong on the 9 ftr.
I have also seen this break used by a 1pkt "road player" while in NC (don't know his name) but to quote a 1 pkt HOF member " I have seen that break and played against that break and I know this ... when / if someone uses it on me I hope they have a LOT of cash... because I will retire off of it..":grin:
I'm sorry there Mr. Cornerman, I did put that incorrectly. Thank you for pointing out the obvious though. What I was referring to was this little snippet in the article today on the home page..
'On another note: Efren was observed breaking from the head spot, sending the cue ball off the side of the stack, two rails off the long rail, back into the stack. I'm getting dizzy just thinking about the spin he put on the ball. Please do not try it at home."
Ive never seen this but I'm pretty sure if Efren is doing it there's a benefit.
Now this ONE I have NOT seen! Hope he does it in the finals... the one Scott is doing I have.....
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnqSY0WjOE8&feature=youtu.be
My friend Elias (Lou P. from Philadelphia) taught Efren this break. Its not a safe break where the CB comes back to the head rail. Its an aggressive break that moves many balls. Lou has been working on it for 10 years. He came up with it on his own. I caught them on video here. This video was right after Lou showed Efren how to hit it a few times, and then Efren is trying it in this video. After this attempt by Efren, they play a single game where Lou breaks and he gets similar results.
I don't think Efren used this break in any matches, but could be wrong. Lou showed it to him on Wednesday afternoon.
My friend Elias (Lou P. from Philadelphia) taught Efren this break. Its not a safe break where the CB comes back to the head rail. Its an aggressive break that moves many balls. Lou has been working on it for 10 years. He came up with it on his own. I caught them on video here. This video was right after Lou showed Efren how to hit it a few times, and then Efren is trying it in this video. After this attempt by Efren, they play a single game where Lou breaks and he gets similar results.
I don't think Efren used this break in any matches, but could be wrong. Lou showed it to him on Wednesday afternoon.
That is offensive...in all definitions of the word.
As Grady would have said, it appears to be fraught with peril.
I wil try it at home...and about nowhere else.
As John Malkovich said "Verrrrry aggressive".
It reminds me of an Eight ball break shot with the BIG BALL. Come off the side rail and smack the nine ball.
That's not what Frost was doing against Busty. Frost was using sort of a modified 14.1 break - clipping the back ball and sending whitey 3 cushions tight to the head rail. He would open up 3-4 balls on his side and leave the other side of the rack virtually undisturbed. I thought he would get the worst of it with that break, but he consistently put Francisco in very bad places for the first 8-10 moves of the game. The break is not quite as easy to get out of as one would expect, and it's hard not to leave a free bank when you have no threats on your side of the table.
Aaron
Aaron
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correct...
This makes me wish I'd watched... I thought the best break in 1p was established for
like 100 years now. But thinking about it, a 14.1 break could be pretty strong.
Often players try to pull off that break and send both corner balls back into the rack,
but instead only one goes back in and the other comes halfway back and is shootable.
I think that's what happened during Mike Sigel's famous 150-and-out against Zuglan,
he was frozen to the head rail and drilled the ball that leaked out and went into the stack.
So now the question is... if you can push balls towards your hole and nothing leaks out towards
theirs... what would you prefer? They're frozen to the side rail and can't see the balls nearest your hole?
Or you leave them frozen to the head rail, they can see 'em but they have a lot of distance to deal with?
like 100 years now. But thinking about it, a 14.1 break could be pretty strong.
Often players try to pull off that break and send both corner balls back into the rack,
but instead only one goes back in and the other comes halfway back and is shootable.
I think that's what happened during Mike Sigel's famous 150-and-out against Zuglan,
he was frozen to the head rail and drilled the ball that leaked out and went into the stack.
So now the question is... if you can push balls towards your hole and nothing leaks out towards
theirs... what would you prefer? They're frozen to the side rail and can't see the balls nearest your hole?
Or you leave them frozen to the head rail, they can see 'em but they have a lot of distance to deal with?
For me, the 14.1 break is only a good option if you're having a problem with the corner ball leaking out. That being said, after seeing Frost use it so successfully I might consider it to be the best break in that situation (vs. hitting the 3rd or 4th ball or kicking at the rack). That is IF, and only IF you can get your cueball tight to the cushion consistently. If he had given Busty access to the bottom of the cueball, it may have turned out badly for him. I think the 14.1 break is just not aggressive enough for most normal situations - it doesn't open up that many balls, and usually none that stay near the bottom rail. Plus, with the traditional break there is the off chance that you will make a ball on the break.
Aaron