Elephant ear wrap?

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Seeing a lot of elephant ear wraps on cues pictured around here lately - is there a reason for this? Also, would be curious to know if there is a/what weight difference there is between a leather and Irish linen wrap? Thanks for your insight!

Greetings from Switzerland, David.
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I had it put on a new cue I ordered from Chris Nitti & I really like it. In the past I have used linen, traditional leather & stacked leather wraps. What I like about the elephant ear is that it eliminates any stickiness or slickness from your palm.

i have only been using it for about a month but so far i really like it.

I don't think the weight is any different, nor is the thickness. You will however notice a difference in cost :)
 
joelpope said:
I had it put on a new cue I ordered from Chris Nitti & I really like it. In the past I have used linen, traditional leather & stacked leather wraps. What I like about the elephant ear is that it eliminates any stickiness or slickness from your palm.

i have only been using it for about a month but so far i really like it.

I don't think the weight is any different, nor is the thickness. You will however notice a difference in cost :)
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Thanks! Neither slick nor sticky sounds perfect, of course! I have never used one - what I'm primarily concerned with apart from the weight difference to a linen wrap is whether the human acid mantle one one's palm is going to discolour elephant ear wrap same as other types of leather (I barely sweat, even so, there's this greying effect…)?

Greetings from Switzerland, David.
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Str8PoolPlayer said:
I can't help but wonder if the Elephant liked it also ... (when it was attached, of course.)
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In general, I've sometimes been wondering about these things, too, but at the other end of the spectrum, I've yet to meet a Digambara ascetic who plays pool in the first place - guess most of us figure somewhere in between…

Greetings from Switzerland, David.
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Elephant ear? Poachers? Hmm... I'm gonna check withe the DEC and FBI about this one. Seriously... I wonder if you guys would use an aborted fetus's skin for wrap, sick f**kers.
 
Itsnotme said:
Elephant ear? Poachers? Hmm... I'm gonna check withe the DEC and FBI about this one. Seriously... I wonder if you guys would use an aborted fetus's skin for wrap, sick f**kers.
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When I first heard about it, I wondered if it is indeed a real product, or merely a type of e.g. cow's hide print - but then, I'm repeating myself, I've yet to see or use one (never liked traditional leather wrap, preferring linen or wrapless, for the usual reasons: slick when dry, sticky when sweaty, plus that discolouring effect). I believe it's justified to discuss material properties and understand why there would be demand in the first place. Speaking of fetus skin, not sure if everyone realizes mother cow's abortion once used to be caused systematically to get the most sought-after "spotless" (= fur-/hairless in addition to non-spliced) calfskin for the production (writing/copying process) of parchment used in the most highly prized medieval manuscripts? I know of no one who does not find this abominable (I did research for an academic paper on the subject at one time, and the mere thought still sends chills down my spine), even so, it makes sense to know why it was done. Also, it's simply a useless venture to ignore the reasons for demand: think of the blue diamond tablet pill that's more or less saved the rhino?

Greetings from Switzerland, David.
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„J'ai gâché vingt ans de mes plus belles années au billard. Si c'était à refaire, je recommencerais.“ – Roger Conti
 
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acousticsguru said:
When I first heard about it, I wondered if it is indeed a real product, or merely a type of e.g. cow's hide print - but then, I'm repeating myself, I've yet to see or use one (never liked traditional leather wrap, preferring linen or wrapless, for the usual reasons: slick when dry, sticky when sweaty, plus that discolouring effect). I believe it's justified to discuss material properties and understand why there would be demand in the first place. Speaking of fetus skin, not sure if everyone realizes mother cow's abortion once used to be caused systematically to get the most sought-after "spotless" (= fur-/hairless in addition to non-spliced) calfskin for the production (writing/copying process) of parchment used in the most highly prized medieval manuscripts? I know of no one who does not find this abominable (I did research for an academic paper on the subject at one time, and the mere thought still sends chills down my spine), even so, it makes sense to know why it was done. Also, it's simply a useless venture to ignore the reasons for demand: think of the blue diamond tablet pill that's more or less saved the rhino?

Greetings from Switzerland, David.
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„J'ai gâché vingt ans de mes plus belles années au billard. Si c'était à refaire, je recommencerais.“ – Roger Conti
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Sorry, they give Viagra to Rhinos???
 
Maybe a cuemaker who does elephant ear wraps can comment on legal and ethical sources and how we can be assured that the wrap we're getting comes from one of those sources.
 
joelpope said:
maybe from the same place the ivory comes from???
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Yeah, well, I have always had my doubts when it comes to the provenance of ivory, too - wondering if I'm alone in that respect?

Greetings from Switzerland, David.
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„J'ai gâché vingt ans de mes plus belles années au billard. Si c'était à refaire, je recommencerais.“ – Roger Conti
 
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acousticsguru said:
Seeing a lot of elephant ear wraps on cues pictured around here lately - is there a reason for this? Also, would be curious to know if there is a/what weight difference there is between a leather and Irish linen wrap? Thanks for your insight!

Greetings from Switzerland, David.
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„J'ai gâché vingt ans de mes plus belles années au billard. Si c'était à refaire, je recommencerais.“ – Roger Conti
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Elephant is a bit heavier, but because a wrap uses such a small amount of material the weight difference is just a few grams. Elephant hide is very heavy(dense) a 1 Square Meter piece is a heavy piece of material., but for a wrap its shaved down very thin and is so small you cant tell for all practical purposes.

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I like elephant ear better than any other wrap I have tried .Steve Lomax put a elephant ear wrap on my playing cue and I got a break cue with it already on it .I'm told it will never wear out and the texture is just right .I had switched back to linen from leather (leather got too soft) this stuff feels perfect for a cue wrap .
 
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in Africa they recover their truck seats in elephant hide and it never ever wears out. It is totally impossible to wear out a elephant skin wrap, or elephant ear(its not as durable as the skin) with normal use, it would take serious abuse to harm the wrap, the wood in the cue would break before the elephant wrap would fail in the case of abuse, like bonking someone over the head with your cue. :p


I like Showmans elephant wraps the best, just by a little bit. I havent seen a bad elephant wrap. Lomax does great work, Gilbert too. Gina cue, Barry. I cant think of ever seeing a elephant wrap I didnt like the workmanship on. I just think Showman burnishes it a little better. But thats cosmetic only, and just my opinion. You cant go wrong with elephant.
 
My son has one on a high end Gilbert, it is the best feeling wrap I have ever shot with.
 
Fatboy2 said:
I like Showmans elephant wraps the best, just by a little bit. I havent seen a bad elephant wrap. Lomax does great work, Gilbert too. Gina cue, Barry. I cant think of ever seeing a elephant wrap I didnt like the workmanship on. I just think Showman burnishes it a little better. But thats cosmetic only, and just my opinion. You cant go wrong with elephant.
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Thanks for the detailed reply! Ever seen one by Gulyassy? That's where I first heard of it.

Greetings from Switzerland, David.
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Ears or rears?

LC3 said:
Maybe a cuemaker who does elephant ear wraps can comment on legal and ethical sources and how we can be assured that the wrap we're getting comes from one of those sources.
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Not an expert or cue maker but have heard right here on az, where I hear everything, LOL, that all el ear wraps may not actually come from the ear but represent a premier cut from the animal. Doesn't really matter, it's all about the quality of the leather anyway and probably even more about the tanning process. I would personally prefer kangaroo as I have family and connections in Aussie land. Kangaroo is very tough stuff and the locals hate the damm things. Not unusual to see a Mercedes with a huge roo guard on the front!
 
Itsnotme said:
Elephant ear? Poachers? Hmm... I'm gonna check withe the DEC and FBI about this one. Seriously... I wonder if you guys would use an aborted fetus's skin for wrap, sick f**kers.
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What's it look like? Will it match my case?
 
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