Elephant ear wrap

[robertno1pool]

If you plan to travel abroad with your cue, I would guess elephant might be a problem.

On the slaughter of animals, are these folks using wooden cues?

On the Lizard Wrap, when can you find the tanned lizard hides to buy - in a black and white ringtail lizard?

 

[jay helfert]

Do you know it takes eight elephants to make a full rack of elephant balls?

 

[lenoxmjs]

Sorry for being a little defensive. I am buying the cue from a reputable high end cuemaker and in turn I am trusting that he gets his supplies from a reputable source. I don't feel that it is my job to search out the elephant poachers. I think that lots of our tax dollars go to support government agencies that are supposed to be taking care of this. In the future I'll be more specific about what infromation I'm seeking. Texture, Wear, How you have to care for it ect.

 

[Purdman]

Sorry for being a little defensive. I am buying the cue from a reputable high end cuemaker and in turn I am trusting that he gets his supplies from a reputable source. I don't feel that it is my job to search out the elephant poachers. I think that lots of our tax dollars go to support government agencies that are supposed to be taking care of this. In the future I'll be more specific about what infromation I'm seeking. Texture, Wear, How you have to care for it ect.

lenoxmjs, Ernie Guterez(sp) who makes Gina cues uses elephant ear wraps on a lot of his high end cues. They are wonderful to feel and are practically indestructible. Very good choice my friend. You won't be sorry.
Purdman

 

[Hunter]

Elephant is a wonderful hide for wraps and cases. As mentioned earlier, it's actually very soft and pleasing to the touch, and is virtually indestructable. Not as soft as baby fur seal, mind you, but a lot tougher ...

 

[Colin Colenso]

I'm sure they do somewhere, and those that kill an elephant and feed their entire village off the meat have my approval. But a lot of people kill (or at least used to kill) elephants and take the tusks and the ears and leave most of the animal to rot. If there wasn't such market demand for ivory and elephant-ear leather, this wouldn't happen as much.

But you raise a good point; if the animal were killed in order to feed people, and then its ivory and ears and whatever else were sold, I wouldn't have a problem with that. It's the wasteful killing of an animal for a few of its parts that seems like a total shame to me.

-Andrew

Hi Andrew,
Actually the reason ivory hunters took only the tusks and left the carcasses to rot was because of mis-guided government regulation that forbade farming of elephants.

The fact that they are illegal to farm makes them endangered. You don't see sheep or cattle on any endangered species lists.

If an animal offers no value to humans, it's existance will likely be threatened.

I was a vegan for about 9 years and eventually worked out that the movement is all heart and no brain. The way to preservation is allowing private ownership and subsequent trading of all species or the operation of tourist parks where people will pay to see healthy animals in the wild.

Both types of businesses can exist as some animals which are sold in pets in one country are farmed as food in other. Trying do find the grey line of what species it is ethical to farm is impossible, hence the tendency toward fanatacism in the wrong direction.

Colin

 

[The Kiss]

Do you know it takes eight elephants to make a full rack of elephant balls?

Hahahaha

for you Simpson fans ..Mr Burns said it best...

Mr. Burns' Song:

See... my... vest! See my vest!
Made from real gorilla's chest.
Feel this sweater.
There's no better than authentic Irish Setter.
See this hat? T'was my cat.
My evening wear - vampire bat.
These white slippers are albino
African endangered rhino.
Grizzly bear underwear.
Turtles' necks, I've got my share.
Beret of poodle, on my noodle it shall rest.
Try my red robin suit!
It comes one breast or two!
See my vest. See me vest. See my vest.
Like my loafers? Former gofers.
It was that, or skin my shoafers.
But a greyhound fur tuxedo would be best.
So let's prepare these dogs."
Maid: "Kill two for matching clogs!"
Burns: "See my vest. See my vest. Oh please, won't you see my vest?
(spoken) I really like the vest."

 

[Cuebacca]

i'm not a tree hugger, but i play one on tv

Elephant is a wonderful hide for wraps and cases. As mentioned earlier, it's actually very soft and pleasing to the touch, and is virtually indestructable. Not as soft as baby fur seal, mind you, but a lot tougher ...

I wouldn't be able to shoot pool with a seal fur wrap. Room owners would be pretty pissed at me for vomitting all over their Simonis.

The HSUS posted a little video clip documenting the agressive and inhumane actions of sealers towards seals and humans. Click here if you're willing to watch that. It contains graphic images. They also have a little fact sheet about the whole thing here.

Of course, you're entitled to your opinion, but in my opinion, the seals need the fur more than J-Lo.

Props to the hunters who eat their prey and treat the animals humanely. Anything less would be uncivilized. (I think I stole that line from a deodorant commercial. )

 

[Gerald]

elephant wrap

In the "Cuemaker" section there is some excellent information on elephants that may make some people here expand their thinking.--or not

 

[Hunter]

Cuebacca,

I'm actually very impressed with your reply. I was just being a smart ass with the seal fur comment. In this politically correct society, it's actually nice to hear someone state their opinion without slamming someone else's.

I am a hard core hunter (who eats what he kills, and tries to kill in a quick, humane fashion). I respect the fact that it's not for everyone, and I've never tried to convince anybody that it is. I think we all have to make choices and frankly, I don't need feedback that hasn't been asked for from someone that doesn't have a clue as to what makes me tick. You didn't do that, you simply stated your opinion and provided some facts to support it.

Even though we are diametrically opposed in beliefs, we are in America where you have the freedom to make choices... Speak out for what you believe in. Trust me, I will!

Best regards,

Steve

p.s. - I do think that J-Lo looks better in the fur than the seal did

 

[Cuebacca]

Hi Steve,

Thanks for your reply. I don't know many hunters personally, but from what I've seen, the more experienced ones, like yourself, do have that respect for the lives they take, which I appreciate.

In fact, those animals are lucky that they were free up until the end of their lives, unlike some unfortunate ones that spend all their days in small cages. I do believe that animals, like people, feel pain and have emotions to some at least some extent.

I'm not a vegan, or even a vegetarian, so I don't want to be hypocrite and slam people for something I might do myself. Generally, slamming someone for anything doesn't really help anything.

I just feel that some animal products are worse than others, depending on the means of the kill, the treatment up until the kill and whether or not the animal gets eaten. I realize that I've probably inadvertantly purchased plenty animals products where the animal wasn't treated very well, and that bothers me. For that reason, I'll probably never try veal, and now, when possible, I only buy cage-free eggs. At least its a start.

Actually, hunting is probably the best solution for getting meat, as you get to decide yourself how the animal is killed. Maybe it would help with my pool aim too.

Anyway, just some thoughts on the subject... sorry folks, for straying off on a tangent to the topic.

Pool rules!

Cheers,
Cuebacca

 

[CrownCityCorey]

lenoxmjs, Ernie Guterez(sp) who makes Gina cues uses elephant ear wraps on a lot of his high end cues. They are wonderful to feel and are practically indestructible. Very good choice my friend. You won't be sorry.
Purdman

Ernie buys our leather

 

[Solartje]

With all due respect, don't you have in your bio your dream is to have a Jack Justis lizard case?

lisard as in lisard logo. a logo that has the form of a lisard. not one made of lisard skin!! im a lisard freak, like in: i LOVE them , i have had some, i dont import them, i try to breath them myselve (not sure how u wright it).
my home is filled with ZILIONS of lisard animals. not sure if i can still find a picture of my actual case, but there is a BIG lisard hangen on it.

my nickname is silly sally ( short for sallamander) solly.

and my cues are either wrapless or linnen wrap, not a single ivory in it. sorry to bust the bubble, but i AM a true lisard lover.

here u can see some lisards around my desk u can see im pritty adicted to them (sorry no picture of my elephants running in the garden ) and u can see my lucky lisard charm hanging on my case. id LOVE jack to make a case with a BIG lisard logo on it and my name

 

[Solartje]

My friend, there are a holes all over this country that shoot animals and just take the head w/antlers or the tenderloin. I can asssure you that I am not one of them. As a matter of fact, if I saw one do it, and there was nobody around, they would be left there to rot with the animal carcass. There are African tribes that live on elephant meat. I wouldn't mind giving it a try myself. I will eat anything once. There are only two things that will never pass thru my lips again. Chitlins, boiled w/venigar and salt and pepper, and an exotic fruit eaten for desert by the Cambodians. Thanks for the roll eyes.
Purdman

Here is the fruit I was talking about. It is a Durian, "The King of Fruit"
http://home.arcor.de/be/bethge/durianengl.htm

Anybody here ever try it?

the canibalisme was more ment as a joke but still making a point just to make the subject a bit less loaded i thought some humor could help, but i can imagine not everyone found it funny, but hey Silly solly u dont earn that name easily . hence the rolle-eyes hope i didnt offend u with it.

 

[macguy]

lisard as in lisard logo. a logo that has the form of a lisard. not one made of lisard skin!! im a lisard freak, like in: i LOVE them , i have had some, i dont import them, i try to breath them myselve (not sure how u wright it).
my home is filled with ZILIONS of lisard animals. not sure if i can still find a picture of my actual case, but there is a BIG lisard hangen on it.

my nickname is silly sally ( short for sallamander) solly.

and my cues are either wrapless or linnen wrap, not a single ivory in it. sorry to bust the bubble, but i AM a true lisard lover.

here u can see some lisards around my desk u can see im pritty adicted to them (sorry no picture of my elephants running in the garden ) and u can see my lucky lisard charm hanging on my case. id LOVE jack to make a case with a BIG lisard logo on it and my name

I like lizards also. I have thousands of Anoles on the property and before Hurricane Wilma had dozens maybe hundreds of Tokey Geckos. I use to have to chase people off sometimes because they would be trying to catch them, they may be worth something to pet shops.

They were amazing they were so aggressive they could back down my cat, they can even catch mice. Once and a while I would see one with a big clump of white hair in it's mouth and I know the cat must have gone after it. They lived in my trees, but after the hurricane I lost about 30 or more trees and I haven't seen more then a few of them since.

I like snakes as well I have one now a Colombian red tail that is about 8 feet I've had it since it was about a year old. The trouble with pets like that is they live a long time and get to be more like exhibits rather then pets. Not to mention what it cost to feed an animal like this.

I like animals, I just had a problem with a duck that made a nest under my car. I haven't been able to drive it for a few days. Today I called the wild life center to remove it. They came over when I was out and got it. I don't know what they did with it but the eggs and duck were gone when I got home just a pile of crackers they used to lure the duck out.

When I was a kid we would have to check under the cars for alligators before they put in sea walls. More then once you would go out the door and run into an alligator. We used to swim in the canals with then, you would see them maybe a 100 yards away but they never bothered you, although one came around that was really huge.

My friends father shot it because it seemed to be stalking the dogs. You can see them when they are watching. They used a tow truck to get it out of the canal and it may have been 15 feet of more.

 

[Solartje]

aargh , id love to have some just in the plain backyard :s, but the weither just doesnt make it possible in belgium some like sharks on there cases, i LOVE gecko's etc on mine still need to work on my design for my justis case, but i dont think i can afford one anysoon. nice everything is cleared out sometimes im not very clear in what i mean english isnt my native language, making it hard sometimes.

greats from a fellow lisardlover macguy

 

[Jack Justis]

aargh , id love to have some just in the plain backyard :s, but the weither just doesnt make it possible in belgium some like sharks on there cases, i LOVE gecko's etc on mine still need to work on my design for my justis case, but i dont think i can afford one anysoon. nice everything is cleared out sometimes im not very clear in what i mean english isnt my native language, making it hard sometimes.

greats from a fellow lisardlover macguy

Solly, should you decide to order a case, the logo will be on me.
Jack

 

[Jeffrey Gale]

Just wanted to get some opinions on an Elephant wrap. I'm having a cue built and the maker suggested that I might really like this material. He is going to send a sample but just wanted all of your opinions. Thanks.

Get the wrap. I got one on a Bender, but it's leather embossed, Blk., looks great. Look at what Tiger Products got.

 

[Purdman]

the canibalisme was more ment as a joke but still making a point just to make the subject a bit less loaded i thought some humor could help, but i can imagine not everyone found it funny, but hey Silly solly u dont earn that name easily . hence the rolle-eyes hope i didnt offend u with it.

No problem here, however, I think I might send you a Durian to eat for desert.
Purdman

 

[misterpoole]

what you say?

Our Elephant leather, is actually cowhide with an embossed Elephant skin print.

Ernie buys our leather

So are you saying that Ernie is buying your embossed elephant print leather and is charging for a real elephant wrap? I hope not, but thats the way it came across.