Enough MC talk. It's irrelevant

CJ Wiley said:
We have a saying in the bar business "trying to save money by pulling advertising is like trying to save time by unplugging the clock"
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Wow, I love this quote and wish I'd known it during my corporate career!
 
Yes-

leto1776 said:
All this talk about the MC, what we really should be focusing on is American players who can win World Championship titles. At the end of the day, the MC is merely an exhibition for entertainment. The world titles are what really matter. Discuss.
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The Mosconi Cup 'is' only an exhibition for entertainment event-

THAT'S AIRED IN OVER 600,000,000 HOMES!

Obviously, you are unaware of this fact.

Programming of the 3 Matchroom Events goes EVERYWHERE IN THE WORLD EXCEPT THE UNITED STATES!
Eurosport, Sun Sport and a slew of others air these matches.

Please explain to me then why ALL points accumulations for US events are done specifically to earn the opportunity to play in this
"exhibition"?

why didn't you just say-don't play in any events
LOL
who are you?
 
don't blame the Chinese-

Bob Dixon said:
So they should start taking Chinese lessons? I don't know . . . I think I'll stick with the getting better American sponsorship idea.
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Yes, Chinese lessons should be on the menu-educate yourself-Chinese is an amazing language!

The Chinese are not our enemy-we are our enemy!

I dare you to pick up 5 random items in Home Depot and see where it's made.
Now go to Target and pick another 5.
In China-
There's some poor shlock making our housing products and the shirt on your back.

Do not fault the Chinese.
It is by our own hands we cannot come together in pool or elsewhere.


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Help The BEF!

leto1776 said:
Fine, let's keep beating the same dead horse all the way until December again; meanwhile, U.S. Players will continue to play like crap in big international tournies (those who can actually get to the,that is). But hey, we need to keep talking about a single glorified exhibition, and finding the magic pill for the U.S. Team!
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help the BEF with time and/or money to contribute to a program for training champions!
 
You don't have to have titles under your belt to-

Lucky_Lew66 said:
I agree with Jam,no disrespect meant to Mark Wilson,he may be a great teacher of the game ,but what titles has he ever won. A lot of the stuff he teaches is just basic stuff that we have all known for years,and sometimes we need to go back to the basics because we develope bad habits,playing tired in a tournament of practicing badly.
I think a team captain needs to be an accomplished pro like Archer,who has played under pressure in big events and knows what it takes to get there. I dont think he is going to be teaching these guys during or in between their matches during the Mosconi Cup,thats the wrong time to be trying something new.
Now to go to their practice sessions and maybe see if he can tweek their fundamentals before hand may be ok. Again like Jam says if he has no titles behind his name,the players might tend to blow him off even then. On another note about competing overseas, what would be wrong with some of the american players living over there for a while to get some international exposure and to be there for some of the bigger events.
I wouldnt be real crazy about living overseas but if they are going to make a living playing pool then that might be the ticket,or maybe several of them ban together and pool their monies and live over there before the bigger events.
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BE A GOOD COACH!
In Football if the players don't have respect for their coach-are they benched?traded?
THE COACH IS THERE TO HELP YOU TO ACHIEVE YOUR PEAK PERFORMANCE NOT GLOAT OVER HIS OWN TITLE OWNERSHIP!
DUH!
 
Chicagoplayer said:
Please explain to me then why ALL points accumulations for US events are done specifically to earn the opportunity to play in this "exhibition"?
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This is not the case, but it will be nice when we return to a world in which Mosconi spots are earned through play in pre-specified events.
 
Chicagoplayer said:
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The Mosconi Cup 'is' only an exhibition for entertainment event-

THAT'S AIRED IN OVER 600,000,000 HOMES!

Obviously, you are unaware of this fact.
and yet it is not aired in the U.S,in spite of the fact that it's a U.S. Vs. Europe vent. Also, big difference between being available in that many homes, and how many will actually watch the event. So, how is it relevant to helping Ammerican players prepare for singles competition in world championship tournaments?
Programming of the 3 Matchroom Events goes EVERYWHERE IN THE WORLD EXCEPT THE UNITED STATES!
Eurosport, Sun Sport and a slew of others air these matches.

Please explain to me then why ALL points accumulations for US events are done specifically to earn the opportunity to play in this
"exhibition"?
lol. Really? Might wanna do some more fact checking, because not everyone on the 2013 team earned their way, or even belonged there at all, which was a big contention on this forum.
why didn't you just say-don't play in any events
LOL
who are you?
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I'm a fan who gets tired of seeing the same old shit being beaten to death on here week in and week out.
 
leto1776 said:
I'm a fan who gets tired of seeing the same old shit being beaten to death on here week in and week out.
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i'm not taking sides - yet. cause we're still sick from Mosconi & i just woke up.
BUT

your little CHICAGO PLAYER (aka Angel)
was THERE
at MOSCONI
dropping $$$$

(and her outfits were to kill for)
 
PINKLADY said:
i'm not taking sides - yet. cause we're still sick from Mosconi & i just woke up.
BUT

your little CHICAGO PLAYER (aka Angel)
was THERE
at MOSCONI
dropping $$$$

(and her outfits were to kill for)
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So I have to drop cash at the event to be a pool fan?
 
leto1776 said:
So I have to drop cash at the event to be a pool fan?
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nope. you don't have to spend a dime on pool, to be a "fan".

but yáll (all of you), need to know that this chick was there THE ENTIRE TIME at Mosconi. (if you were there - you'd KNOW too) i spotted her Day 1, in her fuschia/black top @ Row 3 US side - met her by 3pm @ smoking lounge. Day 2, she had an even better top.... Day 3 - she killed in her gray silk outfit!!!! (while we were all talking w/ Barry Hearn, FYI)

she was there, WORKIN' IT. which is more than i can say for you, "fan". talking w/ all the players - and all of the fans - gathering info to further pool. BOTH sides. showing her new product.

and she m-i-g-h-t, just m-i-g-h-t....know something(s) that you don't -


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PINKLADY said:
nope. you don't have to spend a dime on pool, to be a "fan".

but yáll (all of you), need to know that this chick was there THE ENTIRE TIME at Mosconi. (if you were there - you'd KNOW too) i spotted her Day 1, in her fuschia/black top @ Row 3 US side - met her by 3pm @ smoking lounge. Day 2, she had an even better top.... Day 3 - she killed in her gray silk outfit!!!! (while we were all talking w/ Barry Hearn, FYI)

she was there, WORKIN' IT. which is more than i can say for you, "fan". talking w/ all the players - and all of the fans - gathering info to further pool. BOTH sides. showing her new product.

and she m-i-g-h-t, just m-i-g-h-t....know something(s) that you don't -


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Well good for her. Not all of us have money to burn on a pool vacation to Vegas.

What does that have to do with the topic of this thread, getting American players ready for big international competitions like world championships?

Edit: and how she was dressed is definitely the most irrelevant thing in this thread yet.
 
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Bob Dixon said:
I saw that. From everything I have been seeing pool is growing in Asia regardless of that.
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agreed. it shocked us, too. we're trying to confirm it. sometimes....rumors get started to "jerk-a-knot in certain asses" - and you just have to wait; ride it out.


but my earlier initial knee-jerk to your post was (and it kinda/sorta melds with Angel's point):

g-r-e-a-t....so China has taken over almost EVERYthing. and now they are taking over pool. lovely.
 
leto1776 said:
Well good for her. Not all of us have money to burn on a pool vacation to Vegas.

What does that have to do with the topic of this thread, getting American players ready for big international competitions like world championships?
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my apologies, but yes i just woke up again from 4 hrs nap. KK9's making dinner now & yelling @ me. i WILL respond. in full.
 
sjm said:
Wow, I love this quote and wish I'd known it during my corporate career!
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The entire economy is down in pool as a result of no TV coverage. This effects the player's ability to make money through sponsorship. The "pool world" is notorious for not having brand loyalty, so the obvious target is the general "sports public" through ESPN, FOX SPORTS or another major network.

This would have a chain reaction and suddenly the American players would come out of their shell and compete at the International level again...until this happens we're "stuck".
 
Agreed-

leto1776 said:
Picking up everyone else's slack. Asia moves forward, while the West got lazy and lives on past achievements.
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no one is sure what the catalyst needs to be for formal training of players- certainly some great points have been made here-and my deepest hope is that we take pride in the events we compete in.

(lets not discuss spending habits and apparel ;) )
 
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