Ever

Or........

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These were the thoughts that went through my mind at the time. I know that shooting the 15 cross side would have never entered my mind because after the potential miss there was a good chance he would not be hooked and he could then play a brutal safe on me rolling the cue off the 2 and hiding behind the 5.[/QUOTE]

He would have a shot at getting out. If you shoot the bank at the proper speed to have a good chance to make it, the cue ball goes 3 rails and comes out past the 8, leaving a cut into the corner. {plus, if you make the bank, chances are you have no shot at your last ball} You shot the proper shot, and the guy attempted to cheat you,{in my opinion} but you still managed to pull it out. If he did indeed try to pull a fast one on you, he'll pay for it over and over. I probly wouldn't have bought him a drink afterwards, especially if I never intended to gamble with him again.
 
chefjeff said:
Not only that problem, but what difference would it make anyway?

He played by the rules and (should have) won with the safety. Why add any layer of complication to that? What advantage is there to mucking up the game?
Jeff Livingston
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What difference does it make? If you're calling safe you shouldn't be allowed to gain an advantage in your ball count. Granted, if you only have 2 balls left on the table you're pretty much guaranteed to get out when you get ball in hand, but what if there is a ball near the spot that could screw that up for you? Sorry, I'll have to disagree with that rule. The ball should be spotted if you call safe. But, as someone pointed out, it was a coin table. If that's the case then not spotting the ball is unavoidable.
MULLY
and I'm not calling out the original poster. I'm talking about the rules only.
 
Luxury said:
Thanks for the responses on my story. Just a couple of things. My opponent used to be the Captain of my pool team and taught me a ton about the game. Hence giving him a shot after the dust cleared.

Another thing: Marrying up to the 8 ball was the most important aspect of the shot for me. I knew if rolled the 11 near the corner pocket that it would be nicer to have that ball near the corner but it would have decreased the chances of marrying up next to the 8. If you just roll the cue ball a few inches past the 8 my opponent was a FAVORITE to make a 1 or 2 rail kick using the side rail. By shooting the 11 dead into the pocket at medium speed it was a piece of cake to put the cue next to the eight where my opponent would have to kick at the end rail jacked up over the 8 where I was a huge favorite to get ball in hand and shoot the 15 in the bottom left corner and roll the cue forward to shoot the 8 in the side.

These were the thoughts that went through my mind at the time. I know that shooting the 15 cross side would have never entered my mind because after the potential miss there was a good chance he would not be hooked and he could then play a brutal safe on me rolling the cue off the 2 and hiding behind the 5.
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I have seen you play and the last thing you need to be doing is giving anything up at all. Oh you to TX Southpaw. :)
 
mullyman said:
What difference does it make? If you're calling safe you shouldn't be allowed to gain an advantage in your ball count. Granted, if you only have 2 balls left on the table you're pretty much guaranteed to get out when you get ball in hand, but what if there is a ball near the spot that could screw that up for you? Sorry, I'll have to disagree with that rule. The ball should be spotted if you call safe. But, as someone pointed out, it was a coin table. If that's the case then not spotting the ball is unavoidable.
MULLY
and I'm not calling out the original poster. I'm talking about the rules only.
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no way man. being able to call in and safe is a good rule. it adds to the strategy part of the game. i've played it like this on non coin op tables a few times
 
After he said he didn't hear me I would have told him I called it in the other pocket, his turn... If he's going to lie to win my money, I'll lie better :-)
 
ftgokie said:
I would have never played safe.:confused: ..thats just 2 easy of an out
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the out's not that easy! if the other guy had let the safety play out then the luxury would have had the game in the bag guaranteed
 
asiasdad said:
He had to do that to you, because he can't sell any cars
right now.

You should go play Krbsailing, he sells beer at his bar in
Bremerton and beer always sells good during a depression.

jmo
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lol.....are you back running paper yet? :smile:
 
poolplayer2093 said:
no way man. being able to call in and safe is a good rule. it adds to the strategy part of the game. i've played it like this on non coin op tables a few times
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Everyone is different, but for me, I would have never played safe...if U did play safe and he had to kick, say he got a lucky hit on the 5 ball, did not make it then rolled behind the 2 for a safe on u...then where are u....That particular layout would be just 2 easy..id run 11ball down with some high left english, leaving a slight angle on 15..run 15 to bottom right corner....or if you hit cue hard enough, run 15 in lower left corner with slight high right english...shot in either side or depending how hard you hit the cue ...top left corner or top right corner.....

Only reason I wouldnt play safe is my percentage of making the balls are alot higher..as opposed to playing safe and opponent getting a lucky roll and snookering me...then me have to pull something out of my arse....but thats just me
 
ccshrimper said:
After he said he didn't hear me I would have told him I called it in the other pocket, his turn... If he's going to lie to win my money, I'll lie better :-)
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Holy crap...now thats good....OOps....my bad...I called the OTHER pocket....YOUR TURN!:thumbup:
 
Still won, that's good!


You snapped in the eight for the win, but also allowed called safes if one of your balls went in? You probably weren't playing APA league rules, but just out of curiousity, what league rules were you using?

I know this is beside the point.

Congrats on the win!
 
ftgokie said:
I would have never played safe.:confused: ..thats just 2 easy of an out
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exactly. or call some other pocket, and shoot it in the one you did and hook him. unless flukes count, then youre screwed.
 
T said:
Still won, that's good!


You snapped in the eight for the win, but also allowed called safes if one of your balls went in? You probably weren't playing APA league rules, but just out of curiousity, what league rules were you using?

I know this is beside the point.

Congrats on the win!
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We were playing TAP league rules. I've played in that league for 5 years and my opponent many many more and those are definitely the correct rules.
 
ftgokie said:
Everyone is different, but for me, I would have never played safe...if U did play safe and he had to kick, say he got a lucky hit on the 5 ball, did not make it then rolled behind the 2 for a safe on u...then where are u....That particular layout would be just 2 easy..id run 11ball down with some high left english, leaving a slight angle on 15..run 15 to bottom right corner....or if you hit cue hard enough, run 15 in lower left corner with slight high right english...shot in either side or depending how hard you hit the cue ...top left corner or top right corner.....

Only reason I wouldnt play safe is my percentage of making the balls are alot higher..as opposed to playing safe and opponent getting a lucky roll and snookering me...then me have to pull something out of my arse....but thats just me
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I'm sure you are better than me but I would bet a lot of money if you wanted 20 tries playing stripes offensively the ways you have described with me playing solids vs my 20 tries playing the way I did as stripes and you solids. That is the way I have settled debates on shot selection in the past. Anyone else ever do this?
 
ftgokie said:
Everyone is different, but for me, I would have never played safe...if U did play safe and he had to kick, say he got a lucky hit on the 5 ball, did not make it then rolled behind the 2 for a safe on u...then where are u....That particular layout would be just 2 easy..id run 11ball down with some high left english, leaving a slight angle on 15..run 15 to bottom right corner....or if you hit cue hard enough, run 15 in lower left corner with slight high right english...shot in either side or depending how hard you hit the cue ...top left corner or top right corner.....

Only reason I wouldnt play safe is my percentage of making the balls are alot higher..as opposed to playing safe and opponent getting a lucky roll and snookering me...then me have to pull something out of my arse....but thats just me
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i was thinking to just pocket the ball and stun the cue ball out and then bank the last ball cross side. i'd try to run it out too. i don't see the need to play safe there but hay if he lays it down strong enough the safe is just as good as the run out
 
Lets see.

If he pulled the move, and at any time while you were accepting the fact that he didn't hear you, and you caught him smirking or smiling, or looking like he was all superior by folding his arms in triumph, you should have taken your break cue and beat the ever living crap out of him all up and down the establishment.

At the end of the beating, you should have leaned over and asked him, "do you hear me NOW?"
When he said yes, you should have asked him if he was ever going to try and pull such a move ever again, and when he said no, you should have said, THAT'S RIGHT!!!" and you take the coconut custard pie (that just magically appeared in you hand at that moment) and smashed him in the face with it.

After piing him, you bust out the camera, and stand over him with your pool cue, and foot over his torso, like a hunter standing over his kill, and have your picture taken.

You then go home.

After getting home, you download the picture you had taken, and print out the picture, frame it, and hang it on the wall, with other pictured of idiot pool players you have taught lessons to, and fold your arms, and smile that triumphant smile of a job well done.
 
Luxury said:
I'm sure you are better than me but I would bet a lot of money if you wanted 20 tries playing stripes offensively the ways you have described with me playing solids vs my 20 tries playing the way I did as stripes and you solids. That is the way I have settled debates on shot selection in the past. Anyone else ever do this?
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IMO in the 20 tries the safe has the higher percentage compared to the run out. And the closer you can nudge the cue ball to the eight ball the percentages increase.
 
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