Because 'That Guy' that I'm referring to, is also the guy telling everyone how good his equipment is when no one asked. 'That Guy' that I'm referring to is actually three guys in our APA division.
Everyone has seen "that guy". No one wants to be "that guy"...
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Because 'That Guy' that I'm referring to, is also the guy telling everyone how good his equipment is when no one asked. 'That Guy' that I'm referring to is actually three guys in our APA division.
That guy, the old man down the street has a Dodge Viper and a new 2014 Porshe 911. But doesn't ever take them out! Bet he never has raced them, he barely drives them! To say he doesn't deserve them because he isn't able to use them to their full potential is BS, I sure would like one, and that is the same with someone able to afford the newest equipment, CUE ENVY! I play way better than they do, but I play with a $60 Spalding...lol:grin-square:
Agreed, nobody can shoot with a crappy tip, well except Bugs. But, some house cues are nicer than others. If you dig through the pile, you find the one that got a tip replacement recently... she's in there, you just gotta look hard. Cause I use house cues when I'm on vacation, though I do bring a tip tapper, a piece of sandpaper and my own chalk, and I'm ready to play.
APA 4's probably don't know what cue is best or how to even tell, if they are new players. Usually players of lesser skill copy the best players in the rooom in which they play. In Taiwan it's Southwest. Where I live it is (was) Predator. Now it seems that Mezz is favoured. Both of these brands are good choices for many people, so I don't think that is too bad, really. They are expensive, I'll give you that. At least they are not waiting 12 years or paying 5k for them, like they would in Taiwan...
Don't worry, I didn't take your post personally at all. My statement, which you highlighted, was meant more as a general statement to people who say stuff like that. Thanks for the clarification on the APA rating. I guess there is no truely objective rating in this system? It's all relative to the people you are playing in your area. I thought maybe it had to do with average number of balls run or something. I was curious, since it gets mentioned often here.
I agree that "fancy" break and jump cues won't make you a better player. They also won't hurt, and may bring extra business to whomever sells equipment at your poolhall. So long as no one is actually deceiving the APA 4 about that, I say sell them as much and as fancy equipment as they want and can afford.
Out of all the nice runs I've seen there has been no real common factor. All kinds of cues, tapers, tip hardnesses etc have been used. Many were made with Predators, because for a while everyone around here had one. I know because for a while I was very curious about these things and always asked, especially the top players that I know. I saw a guy run 6 racks off the wall once, in a big tournament, and I've seen large straight pool runs with expensive customs. I've made my 4 highest runs with 4 different cues. Price range about 40 dollars to 800 dollars. What does that tell you? I switch cues too often..and maybe I should have bought the 40 dollar one and stuck to it. Sadly I bougth that last, but I'm keeping it. At least I have my nice butterfly case to keep the cues I no longer use in, and I kept the predator shaft.
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I have no problem with "those guys" cause they're spending coin, and that's good. So what, let them buy the toys, no harm no foul.
But, I do find it odd when I see someone spend $500 on a case to hold a $100 cue...doesn't bother me personally, just seems a little odd, that's all.
But, I do find it odd when I see someone spend $500 on a case to hold a $100 cue...doesn't bother me personally, just seems a little odd, that's all.
i was that guy for a while...untill i got smart and realized ..its the indian, not the arrow. in my case any way...your experience may differ.
i finally realized after 10 years of purchasing about a dozen cues ranging from 40.00 to 3,000.00 that not a one of them made me a ball better than i actually was. as a matter of fact...my highest level of play was attained at the vegas nationals with that 40.00 cue i purchased about a month before i went to vegas. having never been there and having never shipped cues on a plane i was reluctant to take any of my higher priced cues.
i sold my 3,000.00 cue a few months ago to help purchase a truck. i dont regret it at all...right now any way . :grin-square:
not to worry...i have not become the " other guy " who looks down on players who can not make a ball but have expensive cues .
what gets me is the following.
a guy decides he wants to play pool. he usually picks up a low cost player to begin with. as he gets more serious he wants to get better and learn all he can. he may browse the web and come across this site. he may lurk for a while reading all he can.
he may become a member and ask the same old question about whats the best cue or tip. he decides to take some ones advice and get a custom cue. he gets snickered at by the patrons in the pool hall for being a banger with a custom cue.
he comes on here and asks advice about instructors or books to read or you tube streams. he puts in a lot of hard work and finally gets to where he can string a few racks together.
where does he go from here ? he becomes the "other " guy who makes fun of " that " guy.
oh , the hypocrisy . :grin-square:
i finally realized after 10 years of purchasing about a dozen cues ranging from 40.00 to 3,000.00 that not a one of them made me a ball better than i actually was. as a matter of fact...my highest level of play was attained at the vegas nationals with that 40.00 cue i purchased about a month before i went to vegas. having never been there and having never shipped cues on a plane i was reluctant to take any of my higher priced cues.
i sold my 3,000.00 cue a few months ago to help purchase a truck. i dont regret it at all...right now any way . :grin-square:
not to worry...i have not become the " other guy " who looks down on players who can not make a ball but have expensive cues .
what gets me is the following.
a guy decides he wants to play pool. he usually picks up a low cost player to begin with. as he gets more serious he wants to get better and learn all he can. he may browse the web and come across this site. he may lurk for a while reading all he can.
he may become a member and ask the same old question about whats the best cue or tip. he decides to take some ones advice and get a custom cue. he gets snickered at by the patrons in the pool hall for being a banger with a custom cue.
he comes on here and asks advice about instructors or books to read or you tube streams. he puts in a lot of hard work and finally gets to where he can string a few racks together.
where does he go from here ? he becomes the "other " guy who makes fun of " that " guy.
oh , the hypocrisy . :grin-square:
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Am I that guy?
I have a Predator Ikon 1 with a Z2 shaft, and a Mezz PB2. I wear a glove. And I'm an APA 5. Though this is only my second session...I do hope to get better, but I'm definitely a 5.
Should I sell my cues and shoot with a house stick because somebody can beat me with one? I like the game, think i shoot slightly (probably insignificantly) better with this equipment, and I like to tinker.
I guess I am that guy. Damn...
I have a Predator Ikon 1 with a Z2 shaft, and a Mezz PB2. I wear a glove. And I'm an APA 5. Though this is only my second session...I do hope to get better, but I'm definitely a 5.
Should I sell my cues and shoot with a house stick because somebody can beat me with one? I like the game, think i shoot slightly (probably insignificantly) better with this equipment, and I like to tinker.
I guess I am that guy. Damn...
Sherman Duke
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I paid $225 for a custom cue designed just for me.
It's not fancy, but "players" drool over it after getting
a few shots with it. My game is better because of it.
We grow together, I don't pretend to be great.
I hope to never to be "that guy."
It's not fancy, but "players" drool over it after getting
a few shots with it. My game is better because of it.
We grow together, I don't pretend to be great.
I hope to never to be "that guy."
nothing wrong with being " that " ...unless you go around bragging about ...mine is more expensive than yours.
as i stated ...i had a 3,000.00 custom ...loaded with ivory and abalone inlays. 32 ivory inlays to be exact with 5 sets of silver stitch rings. came with 3 shafts.
i never once tried to show it off. i played league 3 times a week and took it to bars occasionally. every time i pulled it out of my case people came up and admired it. like i said...no ego...but i will have to admit i was proud as a peacock when mike massey signed one of my shafts. he took the cue and held it up saying...this is one of the most beautiful cues i have ever seen...it must be a 4,000.00 or 5,000.00 cue. i replied...nope...only 3,000.00. :grin-square:
it was not an ego trip with me at all. i just fell in love with it when i 1st saw it and when it came up for sale i snatched it up. i now play with a meucci so when some one snickers at my level of play they cant snicker about a high level cue and a low level player.
as others have stated...that guy helps the entire pool community with his purchases.
i see a lot of apa players with schonn's...joss ... erwin's ...gilberts...even seen a bender and a black at league. imagine if all those apa players just used cheap cues consummerate with their playing ability. who would have bought all those higher end cues i mentioned ... you ?
when i met joe salazar in 1973 he was not playing off the wall
and 19 years later he was playing a tad while he lived in la
but then this question was not about can a player play better with fancy cues
now i am trying to buy a shelby convertible,and i have no hopes to go 150mph
does this make me a jerk because every drunk in town floor boards his car?
gee fellas,let me get a house cue and my mercury back so i can be one of the guys
when i was getting back into playing i got the fanciest cue i could find,bought new bklack shinney shoes,wore a blue blazer white button down shirt and tie to go to the pool room
i was polite and friendly and smiled a lot like i was having fun.i made it a point to do everything i coild to look different than the good playing brokes who were cynical and bought into the philosophy of this thread,i was quickly labeled a sucker,i bet on games that i knew were dumping me and before long i was getting big spots
the next thing you knew,every player with a stakehorse(smart pool players seldom have money)was playing me
hardly any road player came to dallas without giving me his money and the stakehorse money
it took about 10 years before they realized that neing a broke pool player was not a sure sign of a winner,
of course they said i had the nuts
duh
its hard to win without the nuts
and 19 years later he was playing a tad while he lived in la
but then this question was not about can a player play better with fancy cues
now i am trying to buy a shelby convertible,and i have no hopes to go 150mph
does this make me a jerk because every drunk in town floor boards his car?
gee fellas,let me get a house cue and my mercury back so i can be one of the guys
when i was getting back into playing i got the fanciest cue i could find,bought new bklack shinney shoes,wore a blue blazer white button down shirt and tie to go to the pool room
i was polite and friendly and smiled a lot like i was having fun.i made it a point to do everything i coild to look different than the good playing brokes who were cynical and bought into the philosophy of this thread,i was quickly labeled a sucker,i bet on games that i knew were dumping me and before long i was getting big spots
the next thing you knew,every player with a stakehorse(smart pool players seldom have money)was playing me
hardly any road player came to dallas without giving me his money and the stakehorse money
it took about 10 years before they realized that neing a broke pool player was not a sure sign of a winner,
of course they said i had the nuts
duh
its hard to win without the nuts
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Yup, he (or they) is that guy.
Its the attitude, not the lack of ability. That would annoy me, too.
Finally... A thread about me!
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Nice try buddy, they are obviously referring to me!!!!!
I play in not only 1 league but 2 (BCA), I also have my own cube of chalk in my case because I hate drilled out chalk almost as much as I hate ferrules covered in blue chalk, it almost makes it look like your cue has chapped lips when the ferrule is all blue. If the table has a newer chalk I keep mine in my case, if I bring mine out I leave it on the table for anyone to use. I also play in a lot of tournaments, I have only been playing a few years, I have a lot of catching up to do.
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The truth of the matter is, only a cue bug knows the difference. You can be playing on one table with your high end cue that cost a few grand and on the next table there is a guy with an import decal cue and to most in the people in the room they don't see any difference.
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It's amazing how pool eats it's own. That guy spends money in the pool hall and in the industry. Why would you ridicule him and chase him away?
The other guy; The "Not good enough to play in the tourney guy" spends his money and has a good time, win or lose. He just donated to the prize fund and got some fun in return. Why would you ridicule him? Broke assed good for nothing losers chase people like this guy off and then wonder why pool is failing and why no one will support a local tourney. You see the same ones standing in the corner *****ing about the "Real Pool Room" closing while sipping on the free refill coke and *****ing about the cost of table time.
Please stop chasing off the people that can afford to pay. They are the ones that actually support this game. They probably don't have a game because they have a career and actually support a family.
I'm that guy and so are my friends. We drink five to ten good beers in the night and have ours wives drive us home. We eat the food at the pool hall and not next door at McDonalds. We also make jokes about the other guy standing in the corner, sipping on his free refill, gambling the cash that's supposed to support his family. That's the guy without a dime in savings for retirement and then voted for a bailout.
Please stop killing the pool business. I would like to see it hang around for a while.
The other guy; The "Not good enough to play in the tourney guy" spends his money and has a good time, win or lose. He just donated to the prize fund and got some fun in return. Why would you ridicule him? Broke assed good for nothing losers chase people like this guy off and then wonder why pool is failing and why no one will support a local tourney. You see the same ones standing in the corner *****ing about the "Real Pool Room" closing while sipping on the free refill coke and *****ing about the cost of table time.
Please stop chasing off the people that can afford to pay. They are the ones that actually support this game. They probably don't have a game because they have a career and actually support a family.
I'm that guy and so are my friends. We drink five to ten good beers in the night and have ours wives drive us home. We eat the food at the pool hall and not next door at McDonalds. We also make jokes about the other guy standing in the corner, sipping on his free refill, gambling the cash that's supposed to support his family. That's the guy without a dime in savings for retirement and then voted for a bailout.
Please stop killing the pool business. I would like to see it hang around for a while.
This story is absolutely genius funny. Thanks a ton for the imagery and laughs. I've been laughing about this to myself, with the painting visuals in my mind, for the past two days now. I keep revisiting and rereading. Thanks for sharing