eye dominance?
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LWW...Glad to see that you can back off, and admit that there are no "absolutes"...particularly with eye dominance. Here's another scientfic fact...a person can train themselves to CHANGE their dominant eye, from one to the other. Again, it doesn't matter if you have a dominant eye or not. It doesn't play a role in shooting pool. The only important factor is where your cue lines up (presumably under your head somewhere), where you PERCEIVE a straight line. That may be under your dominant eye, centered under your chin...or somewhere else.
Scott Lee
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I have the answer...........
Hi Mike,
It makes no difference if you shot righty or lefty. Your eyes will naturally be in the right position . You are stuck with your dominent eye and there is nothing that I know that can change it except if you lose an eye or have damage.
On different shots you don't get the eyes in that natural position as good and those are the ones you miss or have trouble with. On the days where you are making everything you are getting the eyes in the right position that day.
Perfect Aim teaches you how to get there all the time. It's the players that have learned Perfect Aim that are selling all the videos. Word of mouth is the best but sometimes not the fastest.
Have a great day Geno.......................
i have searched the older threads and have not come across an answer, so here goes. i play right handed and sometimes really struggle with my aim, other times i just walk up, see the line shoot and make everything. a buddy suggested that i might be left eye dominant. at times when i get out of shape with position and have had to shoot left handed the people watching have stated that i line up more natural looking when shooting leftie. any suggestions or advice would be greatly appreciated.
Mike
Hi Mike,
It makes no difference if you shot righty or lefty. Your eyes will naturally be in the right position . You are stuck with your dominent eye and there is nothing that I know that can change it except if you lose an eye or have damage.
On different shots you don't get the eyes in that natural position as good and those are the ones you miss or have trouble with. On the days where you are making everything you are getting the eyes in the right position that day.
Perfect Aim teaches you how to get there all the time. It's the players that have learned Perfect Aim that are selling all the videos. Word of mouth is the best but sometimes not the fastest.
Have a great day Geno.......................
i have searched the older threads and have not come across an answer, so here goes. i play right handed and sometimes really struggle with my aim, other times i just walk up, see the line shoot and make everything. a buddy suggested that i might be left eye dominant. at times when i get out of shape with position and have had to shoot left handed the people watching have stated that i line up more natural looking when shooting leftie. any suggestions or advice would be greatly appreciated.
Mike
i've got a suggestion. don't waste your time thinking about stuff like that. just focus on making more balls than excuses and you'll do better than thinking about nonsense
There are also some people whose eye dominance changes from right to left. I am ambiodextrous, and mostly right eye dominant because I use my right hand the most. My cue is under my left nostril, as Scott Lee knows from my lesson. When I was using my left hand a lot for gun target practice, my eye dominance changed to my left eye, but it didn't affect my pool game. My eye doctor asked me if I had a head injury recently because he thought I may have gotten brain damage. He said that was the only way he knew of, that a person's eye dominance can change. So, I guess it makes sense that if I am using my left eye for sighting a lot, then my eye dominance will change. I just think it's interesting that I hold a handgun differently with my left hand, as opposed to my right hand...and I shoot mostly open bridge left handed, while closed bridge right handed.
A funny story..awhile back I was warming up before an APA 8 Ball match. I'm an SL7 and the team captain introduced me to a potential new teammate. I broke and ran the first rack. So, my team captain tells me, I have to shoot left handed. I then break and run 2 racks, left handed. I never did see that guy again. I really wasn't trying to B&R, I was just shooting balls around. I guess I just hit a gear for a few games.
A funny story..awhile back I was warming up before an APA 8 Ball match. I'm an SL7 and the team captain introduced me to a potential new teammate. I broke and ran the first rack. So, my team captain tells me, I have to shoot left handed. I then break and run 2 racks, left handed. I never did see that guy again. I really wasn't trying to B&R, I was just shooting balls around. I guess I just hit a gear for a few games.
Perfect Aim
Gene, your "system" requires that the cue be centered between the eyes (say within about 1/8 inch) if we are to be in what you call "Perfect Aim". Yes or NO. I don't expect to get an answer to this simple yes/no question, so, for the benefit of the forum, let's just say that, if this question goes unanswered, we should consider that a "Yes". If the answer is "No" I am sure you will be happy to reply.
I am fascinated by the fact that instructors like Randy, Steve, Scott etc. apparently haven't yet figured out that the cue must be centered to 'get the eyes in the right position'.
Gene, your "system" requires that the cue be centered between the eyes (say within about 1/8 inch) if we are to be in what you call "Perfect Aim". Yes or NO. I don't expect to get an answer to this simple yes/no question, so, for the benefit of the forum, let's just say that, if this question goes unanswered, we should consider that a "Yes". If the answer is "No" I am sure you will be happy to reply.
I am fascinated by the fact that instructors like Randy, Steve, Scott etc. apparently haven't yet figured out that the cue must be centered to 'get the eyes in the right position'.
I have found what helps on a long cut shot is to follow your normal routine,
get in line,
bend over the shot,
stroke a few times until you feel right,
pause with tip at the cue ball,
Close your non dominate eye,
check your aim line,
this is where I will make a slight adjustment if needed,
open both eyes and verify that "you Believe" you are aimed on the right line.
then
stroke,
stroke,
back stroke, Pause..
Shoot through the cueball with a confident stroke.
If you fail to make the ball, set the shot up again (Using a trainer or paper donut in order to get the same shot) shot it until you get a consistent (over or under) cut.
Then make an adjustment in how you are aiming.
Of course I like my trainer for this as it gives you an aiming point that is always the same spot.
Mark
www.teachmepool.com
get in line,
bend over the shot,
stroke a few times until you feel right,
pause with tip at the cue ball,
Close your non dominate eye,
check your aim line,
this is where I will make a slight adjustment if needed,
open both eyes and verify that "you Believe" you are aimed on the right line.
then
stroke,
stroke,
back stroke, Pause..
Shoot through the cueball with a confident stroke.
If you fail to make the ball, set the shot up again (Using a trainer or paper donut in order to get the same shot) shot it until you get a consistent (over or under) cut.
Then make an adjustment in how you are aiming.
Of course I like my trainer for this as it gives you an aiming point that is always the same spot.
Mark
www.teachmepool.com
Sorry I fat fingered the last post.
I have found what helps on a long cut shot is to follow your normal routine,
get in line,
bend over the shot,
stroke a few times until you feel right,
pause with tip at the cue ball,
Close your non dominate eye,
check your aim line,
this is where I will make a slight adjustment if needed,
open both eyes and verify that "you Believe" you are aimed on the right line.
then
stroke,
stroke,
back stroke, Pause..
Shoot through the cueball with a confident stroke.
If you fail to make the ball, set the shot up again (Using a trainer or paper donut in order to get the same shot) shot it until you get a consistent (over or under) cut.
Then make an adjustment in how you are aiming.
Of course I like my trainer for this as it gives you an aiming point that is always the same spot.
Mark
www.teachmepool.com
I have found what helps on a long cut shot is to follow your normal routine,
get in line,
bend over the shot,
stroke a few times until you feel right,
pause with tip at the cue ball,
Close your non dominate eye,
check your aim line,
this is where I will make a slight adjustment if needed,
open both eyes and verify that "you Believe" you are aimed on the right line.
then
stroke,
stroke,
back stroke, Pause..
Shoot through the cueball with a confident stroke.
If you fail to make the ball, set the shot up again (Using a trainer or paper donut in order to get the same shot) shot it until you get a consistent (over or under) cut.
Then make an adjustment in how you are aiming.
Of course I like my trainer for this as it gives you an aiming point that is always the same spot.
Mark
www.teachmepool.com
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Close your non dominate eye,
check your aim line,
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Bingo.
My theory:
If the image shifts when you close your ND eye, you either:
a) take a head position like Ralf Souquet where your non-dominant eye doesn't get a chance to screw you up
b)close one eye to eliminate the problem altogether
c) remain a fair-to-middlin' player who compensates for lousy aim by developing skills in other areas.
The closing of one eye when down on a shot would also likely identify those likely to benefit from the "Perfect Aim" method, as well as save $80 for those who do not possess the specific situational eye dominance issue that it claims to compensate for.
Close your non dominate eye,
check your aim line,
******************
Bingo.
My theory:
If the image shifts when you close your ND eye, you either:
a) take a head position like Ralf Souquet where your non-dominant eye doesn't get a chance to screw you up
b)close one eye to eliminate the problem altogether
c) remain a fair-to-middlin' player who compensates for lousy aim by developing skills in other areas.
The closing of one eye when down on a shot would also likely identify those likely to benefit from the "Perfect Aim" method, as well as save $80 for those who do not possess the specific situational eye dominance issue that it claims to compensate for.
Ahhhh ... consensus.
I myself am heavily eye dominant in the right eye.
I'm sure the more dominant one eye is the more critical it becomes to rely on that eye solely.
I don't often shoot with my left eye closed ... but I should.
I know that if I shoot with both eyes open I get a slightly different perception of what a straight line is compared to closing my left eye and using my right eye only. Due to parallax, the longer the shot the more alike the 2 perceived lines are.
OTOH if I close my right eye and rely solely on my left eye it appears that the angle of the shot has changed completely.
I suggest that everyone experiment with this to notice the differences.
To use something from photography ... people believe the camera never lies when in fact the camera almost always lies when it's in the hands of a skilled photographer. The difference between photography and snapshots is understanding how the camera lies and getting it to lie as desired.
Your eyes also lie to you in many circumstances as the brain cannot process every detail in a room constantly. To compensate the dominant eye concentrates on the point of focus and the non dominant gives the brain somewhat out of real time updates on the minutiae of the scene.
Parallax also explains why we sometimes miss very short shots when attention is distracted. It is physically impossible to have both eyes equidistant from the subject ... hence a slight lapse of concentration which has the brain process the combined data (As compared to dominant eye data.) creates a slight change in what is perceived to be a straight line in comparison with what is a straight line.
LWW
I myself am heavily eye dominant in the right eye.
I'm sure the more dominant one eye is the more critical it becomes to rely on that eye solely.
I don't often shoot with my left eye closed ... but I should.
I know that if I shoot with both eyes open I get a slightly different perception of what a straight line is compared to closing my left eye and using my right eye only. Due to parallax, the longer the shot the more alike the 2 perceived lines are.
OTOH if I close my right eye and rely solely on my left eye it appears that the angle of the shot has changed completely.
I suggest that everyone experiment with this to notice the differences.
To use something from photography ... people believe the camera never lies when in fact the camera almost always lies when it's in the hands of a skilled photographer. The difference between photography and snapshots is understanding how the camera lies and getting it to lie as desired.
Your eyes also lie to you in many circumstances as the brain cannot process every detail in a room constantly. To compensate the dominant eye concentrates on the point of focus and the non dominant gives the brain somewhat out of real time updates on the minutiae of the scene.
Parallax also explains why we sometimes miss very short shots when attention is distracted. It is physically impossible to have both eyes equidistant from the subject ... hence a slight lapse of concentration which has the brain process the combined data (As compared to dominant eye data.) creates a slight change in what is perceived to be a straight line in comparison with what is a straight line.
LWW
Relying on one eye is not the answer. Early this year I had some nerve damage to one eye, and had to wear an eye patch for a few months. I wore that patch over my non-D eye, and my game went south in a hurry. We use both eyes, working together, to see accurately. While one eye may be stronger than the other, it still takes both eyes working together to get it right.
Eye patches are a couple of bucks at your local drug store if you want to test it for yourself.
Steve
Eye patches are a couple of bucks at your local drug store if you want to test it for yourself.
Steve