Eyeglasses

[catscradle]

One very important feature is "NON-GLARE", you have to add that feature or the table lights will bother you.

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Good point, ceebee....nice pictures, too....thanks. If you're leaning over the middle of the table, the light reflects off the INSIDE of the lenses, thus blocking the vision with the image of the lightbulbs. I got some of those rimless lenses and this seems to help a little, but they are pricey.

If you wear a hat with a bill, this reflection problem is reduced. Personally, I don't shoot pool with a hat as it distracts too much for my taste, thus my attempts with contacts. I've been back with glasses since my unsuccessful lasik surgery last Sept. I'm having a re-do surgery on May 9 even though the risks are much greater the second time.

The things we do for pool...

Jeff Livingston

Wouldn't getting an anti-reflective coating do the trick? I was thinking of getting that added to my glasses.

 

[catscradle]

I am an eye doc, and contacts are definately the best method if you can tolerate them. (no glare issues) As far as the 1-9ft distance, the standard Rx may need to be modified for persons over 40, but gen. not for anyone younger. That is pretty much a distance Rx. The main problem with wearing glasses is the the optical centers of the lens stay in one place as you adjust your eyes to look at the ball depending on the distance it is from you. That is the reason why the height of the frame gen. gets adjusted by using different noes pads etc.. Also, when you are lined up to shoot, your head may be turned/centered differently as you lean over the shaft. These things ALL have to be accounted for when setting up the frame heights and lens centers. Glare can be controlled with a tint or coating, but a hat will truly help! ;o) I am sure with a little arm twisting and pocket lining you can get your doc to optimize your glasses for pool, but he or she will probably have to look at your mechanics and alignment issues on the tables to be exact, Scott

As a professional what is your opinion of the use of a yellow tint purportedly to increase "sharpness" and the use of an anti-reflective coating for obvious purposes?
I'm 59 and I basically shoot with single vision glasses (been wearing them 42 years). I have a bi-focal for when I need to keep score, but have it cut lower than is normal so it doesn't interfer with my shooting. Single vision seems to work just fine for me. I was overjoyed to find that for some people post 50 their eyesight gets BETTER!!!

 

[JimS]

My eye Doc had me strike a shooting pose on a desk top, noticed the height and angle of my head and positioned the optical center where he thought it needed to be given my stance.

He wrote a prescription and I had DeCot make the glasses. I ordered the HY-Wyd adjustable frames and it all works fine. I can't read with them and wish I could have a pair of no-line bifocals that would be large enough to allow for my chin to be on the cue and me sighting shots out of the top of the frame without having the frame come into view and still be able to do other normal stuff while wearing them.

 

[MrLucky]

Diabetes

I'm interested in any replies you get on this subject. I have always had an astigmatism and in recent years have had to deal with my vision changing with my diabetic sugar levels. My vision changes are dependant on how well I keep my sugar levels in line,but I always have a little blurriness.Any eye docs on this forum?

Terry

I have the same problem right after eating the balls are fuzzy ! so I have to eat early when in a match and I wait till I am done before eating again ! All day tournaments are a real problem with this!

 

[MrLucky]

insulin injections versus pills!

For diabetes to affect your vision, you'd better invest more effort, much more effort, in controlling the blood sugar. Otherwise, you know what will happen. And get some exercise; it'll lower both your blood sugar and insulin requirement by as much as 30%.

I'm a chiro who shoots insulin, too.

I am like beaux I do not have the need for shots my diabetes is in control and never progressed that far (type 2) but right after eating I used to miss balls by 1" or more until I realized the relationship and then I realized how much my eyes were being affected the balls would look like they had fuzz on them now I adjust my eating around my play times for league and see great!

 

[chefjeff]

I have een trying for 18 months to get a proper prescription for my decots with not much sucess.I have reg lens.bifocal lens,trifocal,nothing works.I have tryed to explain the 2-10 feet prescription to my specialist but he doesnt seem to get it .How do they test you for the 2-10ft?.

I did the testing on my own using samples of the daily disposable contact lenses.

My doctor said to me: "Don't talk to me about seeing 2 - 14 feet...I don't know what that means." (!!!) So, I asked him if I could do some experimenting and he sent me to his contact department and the young lady there knew right away what I wanted (no letter behind her name....lol). She and I decided on several different levels of correction and she put a bunch of samples in a bag and off I went.

About 2 years later, I was still experimenting with the mono-vision thing. This is when the specialist that my doc sent me to said, "mono-vision wouldn't work for pool as it is impossible to aim at a distant ball accurately. You'd just be making up the spot," he said. He's a ping-pong guru and could relate to my pool playing quite well. Others here would disagree with that assessment, however, thus the following advice:

My advice, as a non-doctor, is to try a prescription that is about 1/2 of your normal. For example is your correction is -6, get a -3 contact. Keep the astigmatism correction the same, btw. See how it goes for a month or two. If you think it's not quite right, try something else close to it.

Oh yeah, make sure you can drive home at night. You might have to get a prescription for additional glasses for distance when you're still wearing contacts.

Whatever works,

Jeff Livingston

 

[chefjeff]

Wouldn't getting an anti-reflective coating do the trick? I was thinking of getting that added to my glasses.

Not for me. It is not glare so much as it is a reflection from above. Glass or plastic will reflect light directly into your eyes sometimes, even if they have non-glare. That's the nature of the lens, I suppose.

When this happens and I'm aiming through reflected light, I just suck it up, concentrate well, and do my best.

Jeff Livingston

 

[drivermaker]

I did the testing on my own using samples of the daily disposable contact lenses.

My advice, as a non-doctor, is to try a prescription that is about 1/2 of your normal. For example is your correction is -6, get a -3 contact. Keep the astigmatism correction the same, btw. See how it goes for a month or two. If you think it's not quite right, try something else close to it.
Jeff Livingston

My eye doctor did the same thing with me in the experimentation stage. I think 1/2 of the normal prescription is far too drastic, however I've also found that playing on a 9' table requires a slightly weaker prescription but only by about .5. I'm -4.25 in one eye and -4.50 in the other, and if I go up .5 in both eyes to -4.75 & -5.00 it'll allow me to see a road sign a little earlier with the stronger lens, but I can't play pool worth a damn unless they're weakened. The balls look further away, smaller, and have too much glare or shine with the stronger lens.

 

[ceebee]

Not for me. It is not glare so much as it is a reflection from above. Glass or plastic will reflect light directly into your eyes sometimes, even if they have non-glare. That's the nature of the lens, I suppose.

When this happens and I'm aiming through reflected light, I just suck it up, concentrate well, and do my best.

Jeff Livingston

A NON-GLARE (anti-reflective) coating will NOT reflect very much light off the lens, that is the whole purpose of the coating.

 

[chefjeff]

A NON-GLARE (anti-reflective) coating will NOT reflect very much light off the lens, that is the whole purpose of the coating.

I understand what you're saying , ceebee. Yet, I have non-glare and I still get problems with reflection of light. My thinking is that the light doesn't go through the lens and then into the eye (what reflective coatings reduce); it goes off the inside of the lens and into the eye (reflective coating may not help as much here, in my case anyway).

Now that bangs are coming into style again, they may keep this from happening. But boy my neck gets stiff when tossing my hair to the side all the time.

Jeff Livingston

 

[Chicken_Blood]

Specs from pool school (www.poolschool.info) are a good idea if your prescription allows for larger lenses.
I cannot use them and contacts don't work for me (+5 and an astigmatism).
Also I have tried single vision and bifocals. Single vision seemed to work best except for the fact that I had a headache for the first ten minutes after I put them on (I normally wear bifocals).
Anyway, I went to an eye doctor that has worked with some famous sports types and got two sets of glasses, one single vision and one bifocal. The bifocals worked better than ever because of a special new super lite, super clear glass available from Hoya (Hoya makes high clarity camera lenses).

I now shoot exclusively with the bifocals and rarely use the other pair.

 

[Jeffrey Gale]

I'm interested in any replies you get on this subject. I have always had an astigmatism and in recent years have had to deal with my vision changing with my diabetic sugar levels. My vision changes are dependant on how well I keep my sugar levels in line,but I always have a little blurriness.Any eye docs on this forum?

Terry

Terry I have the same problem and also have not found a solution either, I'm diabetic also type 2 no meds. just control the wieght. I have blurrieness also, I'm in the same boat. Let me know if you have more info on this ,ok.

 

[Stretch]

Go to the dollar store and pick out a cheap pair from the display. They ususally have a variety of strengths there. Pick out an object on a shelf 8 or nine feet away and try on different glasses till u find the one that's best. Pay the buck and there u go. St

 

[LWW]

(Hoya makes high clarity camera lenses)

Actually optical quality filter lenses, which is probably even better because it's more closely related to eyeglasses...IOW Hoya filters are great for correcting flare, smog compression, and other issues which are ingherent in the designs of very wide angle and very telephoto lenses.

I didn't know they made eyeglass lenses but I would think they would be of extreme quality using their photography filters as a baseline.

LWW

 

[rackmsuckr]

With Efren getting LASIK surgery, I wonder how he will be hitting the balls when he comes back? Every time I go to get contacts, I am so afraid they will crank me way out to see leaves on trees far away, but not be able to make a ball. This happened once at BCA Nationals. Everyone on my team was handing me their glasses to be able to see! That is why I have not had LASIK done yet (that and being a big baby!)

Right now, I have one contact in for close stuff, especially computers and reading, and one for far away. But, it seems I still need readers anyway. I can't even tell if a ball is frozen without them. I really hate having to wear the readers, as I love computers and reading too.

I am wondering - do I get contacts or LASIK adjusted so that I can see 1-10 feet or so, then wear readers for closeup work AND prescription glasses for distance/driving? Right now, it is such a dilemma and I have gone so long without 'crystal vision' while shooting pool, that I just aim the stick and make balls by memory. Scary thought, huh?

If I could be able to read and see the computer AND clearly see the balls on a pool table, then I would definitely have LASIK and just wear glasses for distance and driving. As it is now, at least I can see to drive and halfway see on the pool table using this close/far away contacts system.

Does anyone have any suggestions?

 

[Poolhalljunkie]

glasses

don't know of the difference in lenses but I know that they make billiard lenses which are about an 1/2 inch taller so you can use the glasses while shooting and don't have to adjust your eyes.http://www.globalsnookercentre.co.uk/files/Players/Global_Europe/Global_Austria/aut_garry_balter.htm I know that they look funny but they work according to a couple of guys I played with in Germany

 

[rackmsuckr]

don't know of the difference in lenses but I know that they make billiard lenses which are about an 1/2 inch taller so you can use the glasses while shooting and don't have to adjust your eyes.http://www.globalsnookercentre.co.uk/files/Players/Global_Europe/Global_Austria/aut_garry_balter.htm I know that they look funny but they work according to a couple of guys I played with in Germany

I really don't want to wear glasses. Besides being vain, (lol) I have no bridge on my nose to hold them up and they slide down and then I always have to push them up and get indentations on the sides of my nose. Happens with readers too. Then I would have to wear a head strap and REALLY look geeky! I just don't know what to do. Reading through the other thread about Efren's LASIK, it looks like those that got adjusted to 20/20 or better do see the balls ok. Hmmmm.....

 

[Sweet Marissa]

Right now, I have one contact in for close stuff, especially computers and reading, and one for far away. But, it seems I still need readers anyway. I can't even tell if a ball is frozen without them. I really hate having to wear the readers, as I love computers and reading too.

I am wondering - do I get contacts or LASIK adjusted so that I can see 1-10 feet or so, then wear readers for closeup work AND prescription glasses for distance/driving? Right now, it is such a dilemma and I have gone so long without 'crystal vision' while shooting pool, that I just aim the stick and make balls by memory. Scary thought, huh?

If I could be able to read and see the computer AND clearly see the balls on a pool table, then I would definitely have LASIK and just wear glasses for distance and driving. As it is now, at least I can see to drive and halfway see on the pool table using this close/far away contacts system.

Does anyone have any suggestions?

Ask your optometrist about CK... My mother and I both had that done. (I also had LASIK.)

 

[cubswin]

Looks like I'll be keeping these big ole glasses for awhile just for pool. Just brought a new pair that are nice, rimless, and small. Will be interested in how it effects (or is it affect?) my game when I get them.

I got anti glare coating mainly to help reduce the glare from computer screens since that is what I do for a living. Seems like lately I've had problems with depth perception while I'm playing and my script had changed a little.

 

[2wld4u]

Specs from pool school (www.poolschool.info) are a good idea if your prescription allows for larger lenses.
I cannot use them and contacts don't work for me (+5 and an astigmatism).
Also I have tried single vision and bifocals. Single vision seemed to work best except for the fact that I had a headache for the first ten minutes after I put them on (I normally wear bifocals).
Anyway, I went to an eye doctor that has worked with some famous sports types and got two sets of glasses, one single vision and one bifocal. The bifocals worked better than ever because of a special new super lite, super clear glass available from Hoya (Hoya makes high clarity camera lenses).

I now shoot exclusively with the bifocals and rarely use the other pair.

My eye Doctor told me I had an astigmatism, He told me this after looking through a thing with a bunch of holes in it, looking through that I have perfect vision.... My perscription really isnt that strong, but I was told I would need "speacial" contacts, First can someone explain exactly what astigmatism is, and why I need those high dollar contacts.. Im really frustrated at the moment...


2wld4u