Famous Hustlers, Gamblers and Pool Sharks

HawaiianEye

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Interesting link for those who may not have seen it before. An excerpt is shown below. Guess it may answer some questions about who could put some "packs" on people for the cash.

http://www.thehypertexts.com/Famous Hustlers.htm


This was posted online by Keith McCready: I am really sad to hear about Vernon Elliott. I consider him a good friend of mine. I knew he was sick. God bless him. He was one of the better guys in the pool business. There's probably a lot of people that don't know who Vernon was, but I had the privilege of knowing him as a nice person, good heart, and a bar table champion, as well as a bank pool champion, one of the best bankers I've ever seen for the money. That's one thing Vernon could do is play for the dough. I think it was in the early '80s or thereabouts when I was over there in Knoxville during the World's Fair. I was sneaking in around from bar to bar to bar, trying to stir up some action. I made a few good scores and was feeling my oats. The first time I ever met Vernon Elliott was during this time. I stepped into one bar with only about three or four people in it. They had a few bar tables in there. I said, "Where's all the action around here?" hoping I'd get a nibble. Boy, did I ever get the big kahuna. Vernon, unbeknownst to me, said, "I'll play you some," and I asked him what do you want to play for. He said, "I'll play you some, fifty or a hundred a game." I looked at this guy and thought I was stealing because Vernon didn't look like a pool player to me. Was I ever mistaken. LOL. He got up there, run a 5-pack for 50 a game. I asked him if he wanted to bet a 100, hoping that he might start missing balls. He laughed at me and said, "Bet." Well, he got up and run another 7 and broke me. So I went and got some more money and came back. All I could round up was another 500. Well, he ran 5 more racks. He put me into a complete coma. That was my introduction to Vernon Elliott. We talked some at the bar and he let me snap him back for a hundred, so I had a little walking money to go hustle some more bars, but I said to myself right then and there that I would be leaving Vernon alone and he wouldn't be on my hit list. We actually became good friends after that. I watched him over there in Detroit betting as high as you could fly, some of the best pool I've seen for the money, and I'm talking about big money, not just 5 and 10,000 a set. They were playing 15 and 20,000 a game. That was Vernon Elliott. Rest in peace, Vernon. You will be missed.
 
Any idea who authored that?

That's a very cool consolidation of (modern) pool history, at least one person's opinion.

I enjoyed it...
 
It says "This was posted online by Keith McCready:"

The quote was supposedly by Keith, but the information compiled may or may not be 100% accurate or factual. I found that page quite a while ago and I'm not sure who compiled it or what the sources are.

I posted it for your reading pleasure, but I haven't spent time trying to validate anything. Some things I know are true, others may be embellished, and others may be completely false.

Maybe we will find out if enough people read this post and have information.

Aloha
 
The quote was supposedly by Keith, but the information compiled may or may not be 100% accurate or factual. I found that page quite a while ago and I'm not sure who compiled it or what the sources are.

I posted it for your reading pleasure, but I haven't spent time trying to validate anything. Some things I know are true, others may be embellished, and others may be completely false.

Maybe we will find out if enough people read this post and have information.

Aloha

I doubt it's false my old friend Glen Cobble down at Bank Shot in Louisville Ky. did a little traveling with Veron him and Greg Sullivan and both have told me some stories. Veron was a monster on the table, may he RIP.
 
It's definitely true. I was lucky enough to know Vernon from the time I was just a kid as he was great friends with my Pop and a mentor to me in my early years.

I relayed a story here once of the first time I met him in my Pop's hall. My Pop had arranged a match for Vernon and they were waiting for the other guy to arrive & Pop introduced me to Vernon. I asked him if he was going to get in any practice before the match. He said,"I don't need practice son, I already know how to play". The ensuing match was a slaughter, two 10 ahead sets were over in an hour and a half. At one point Vernon tore off an 8 pack in the second set. The man was a beast.
 
great post

as i was reading it,i realized that my friend Denny Glenn owns cues,balls and other things owned by almost every one of those guys
autographed pictures and the stories he talls are wonderful to hear

i hope he opens the pool hall of fame in vegas
 
Once a hustler gets to be famous, he/she can no longer be a hustler. Good hustlers stay under the radar. I know the guys that get staked (just about all of them) are lucky if they get 40% of winnings and are lucky to get a lock game a few times a year.

The "A" players that scuff for $5 and $10 on their own dime and stay in action night after night, do way better than 95% of the big money players getting staked.

I started buying Greyhound pups with my $2 to $10 game winnings. In the first 6 years I had bought and had racing around the country just under 200 Greyhounds, some of them as pups cost from $10,000 to $24,000 each.

If players would invest their winnings into something other than another pool game, casino, or horsetrack they would do much better. They can flip thing like cars, trucks, boats, houses...most anything. Johnnyt
 
The quote was supposedly by Keith, but the information compiled may or may not be 100% accurate or factual. I found that page quite a while ago and I'm not sure who compiled it or what the sources are.

I posted it for your reading pleasure, but I haven't spent time trying to validate anything. Some things I know are true, others may be embellished, and others may be completely false.

Maybe we will find out if enough people read this post and have information.

Aloha

For clarification sake, I meant I didn't know if the contents of the ENTIRE web page were accurate.

I only posted the portion about Keith's post because there was a recent thread on here discussing who could run the most racks of pool.

Aloha
 
OP, thanks for the post. I'd also like to thank the others who posted something relevant to the topic of this thread.

Sincerely,
Keith
 
Once a hustler gets to be famous, he/she can no longer be a hustler. Good hustlers stay under the radar. I know the guys that get staked (just about all of them) are lucky if they get 40% of winnings and are lucky to get a lock game a few times a year.

The "A" players that scuff for $5 and $10 on their own dime and stay in action night after night, do way better than 95% of the big money players getting staked.

I started buying Greyhound pups with my $2 to $10 game winnings. In the first 6 years I had bought and had racing around the country just under 200 Greyhounds, some of them as pups cost from $10,000 to $24,000 each.

If players would invest their winnings into something other than another pool game, casino, or horsetrack they would do much better. They can flip thing like cars, trucks, boats, houses...most anything. Johnnyt
Flippin cars, trucks, and boats and raising 200 dogs is a lot of work.
Granted you might not have to answer to many people doing those jobs , but they are still "jobs".
That's usually what the hustler is avoiding, otherwise, some of them were clever enough to have gotten wealthy doing a 9 to 5 business.
 
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