Fastest Break Speed Ever Recorded?

PETROBOY said:
Is the break speed app very accurate? I have it but don't have a chance to test it with any other device so I'm not sure if my results are true.


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It should be accurate if the distance has been entered correctly. It detects the sounds of tip hit on CB and CB hitting the OB, then uses speed of sound (approx 330 m/s) and distance to give break speed.

Not sure how accurate radar guns are.

FWIW: Using the app I found anomalous readings were very rare. After a few hits, I could predict the speed within 1mph based on how it felt and sounded and the app would concur.
 
Im friends with a guy that travels all over the US with a break speed table. Hes been doing it for 12 years and says the fastest, most impressive breaker he's seen is a guy by the name of Mobile Will. Not sure of his skill level but said the guy broke 33 + effortlessly.
 
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It is Will Haagensen of Mobile. He is a regular at the APA Nationals and US Amateur. Didn't see him at BCA last year but plays well. One year at APA nationals they made him stop breaking on an exhibition table because he kept popping the cue ball up about 4 feet and the noise from the ball landing back on the table was disturbing the actual team matches going on nearby. I think they clocked some of them over 35.
 
Lights out

In the 83 BarRAG Shootout,(LiL) David Howard VS Danny Medina in the finals .Race to13 it was a breaking war Danny fell behind and broke so hard he sent whitey up into the lights (what a mess )but Jay is right David HOWARD took it down with a monster break.
 
Dechaine was launching missiles last year at the BCA tradeshow with the new BK3.... Think he was hitting 38 if my memory is serving me correctly....
 
gxman said:
I wonder what shane's average on his 10b break. I'm guessing 23-25mph.
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high 25 to low 26..... I clocked him at the Open cpl years ago and overseveral matches his break speed spread was within .4 MPH.....

Highest normal break I recorded was Buste just over 27 and equally consistent...

Most pros were between 22-24 and Corey was breaking the softest at 19......

Chris
 
I dont think my cue ball even lifts off the table on my breaks. Would that primarily explain why my breaks are 19-20mph? I have not tried working on the mechanics of my break.

I play 90% 8b and would love to get my break to 22ish mph. I don't lunge/spear my stroke forward any either.

This is with a phenolic tip on a bk3.
 
gxman said:
I dont think my cue ball even lifts off the table on my breaks. Would that primarily explain why my breaks are 19-20mph? I have not tried working on the mechanics of my break.

I play 90% 8b and would love to get my break to 22ish mph. I don't lunge/spear my stroke forward any either.

This is with a phenolic tip on a bk3.
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Spend the 6 bucks for the predator break speed app and you should have no problems getting your speed up and not losing a ton of accuracy....

I spent an hour last weekend with a guy that was breaking 18 and we got him upto 23mph with a change in where he gripped the cue and the way he transferred his weight... The grip change was the big ticket item adding 4mph by itself.....
 
So Bob Jewett , how much inertia /pounds of force does it take to get a 30mph break? Do you have a ratio for 20 mph to 30 mph. Thanx QLanew:cool:
 
It was either at the Expo or in Vegas I watched a young kid repeatedly break in the 33-35 mph range.
 
for all you math gurus

how far does the cue ball have to travel (on a break short) to reach its maximum speed? Lets say the max speed is 25 mph.
 
eightandout said:
No. it starts at 0, them climbs to max before slowing down. like a bullet from a rifel.
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Thing Is, that's not what a bullet does. A bullet's maximum velocity is at the muzzle. From there, it is decellerating.

A small but relevent point.

Eric
 
that's not what a cueball does either..

Eric. said:
Thing Is, that's not what a bullet does. A bullet's maximum velocity is at the muzzle. From there, it is decellerating.

A small but relevent point.

Eric
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As soon as it leaves the cue stick's tip it doesn't accelerate any more...

Jaden
 
eightandout said:
how far does the cue ball have to travel (on a break short) to reach its maximum speed? Lets say the max speed is 25 mph.
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The cue ball is accelerating only while it is contact with the cue tip. That time lasts about 0.001 seconds (less for phenolic tips) and during that time the cue ball moves roughly 7.5mm for a 25MPH ball speed result.

If the cue ball is on the cloth, it will slow down after it leaves the tip. As I recall, this was about 1% before hitting the rack for reasonable assumptions. If the cue ball is in the air, as is likely for most break shots, it will slow down less.
 
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USOpenPlayer said:
So Bob Jewett , how much inertia /pounds of force does it take to get a 30mph break? Do you have a ratio for 20 mph to 30 mph. Thanx QLanew:cool:
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During tip-to-ball contact, the force builds from zero to a peak and then goes back to zero as the tip compresses and releases. For a 20MPH break, the peak force is around 450 pounds, but this depends on how hard the tip is. For a 30 MPH break, the peak force is about 700 pounds.

Harder tips will have higher forces for a shorter period of time but it is not a 1-to-1 relationship, so the contact time and peak force change slowly as the hardness changes.
 
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