Fat guy stroke issue.

Bob Jewett

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I'm in nw/nc kansas south of kearney nebraska
I see the problem. A Master instructor named Scott Lee used to travel across the country and seemed to get to nearly everywhere, but he's not with us any more. I don't know of any instructor who does that now.

One solution is if you have some other reason for traveling that would allow you to squeeze in some instruction. If that's not in the foreseeable future, posting a video (and maybe a follow-up video) might be the best solution.

If there are some good players in your town/area you might ask them but that's hit-and-miss because lots of players don't know what to look for -- they don't remember how they learned to play.
 

RailKing85

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Probably one of the most disrespectful posts I've ever read. People who have never faced weight problems should SHUT THE HELL UP about it.

It's like telling depressed people to "just smile more".
I don't think it's disrespectful at all. The guy brought it up. And so he's responding. Advocating for better health and more playability. We've gotten to a place in the world where people look at accountability and holding people to it as disrespect. NOT TRUE. We should care about one another and accept that life choices and habits cause problems and be humble enough to accept criticism when were are doing something that is adversely affecting our health. And btw, I myself was overweight for a good portion of my early childhood and teenage life. It's not hard to lose weight. It's a choice.
 

Dan White

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It's not hard to lose weight. It's a choice.
I agree that bbb's comment wasn't disrespectful. It was meant in a good way. However, I disagree with the "choice" thing. I'm skinny as a rail and have been my whole life. I can eat whatever I want and as much as I want and barely gain a pound. It's just the way I was made. I have to assume the same thing happens to some overweight people. They're just built that way. endomorphs. American diet doesn't help, too.
 

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I agree that bbb's comment wasn't disrespectful. It was meant in a good way. However, I disagree with the "choice" thing. I'm skinny as a rail and have been my whole life. I can eat whatever I want and as much as I want and barely gain a pound. It's just the way I was made. I have to assume the same thing happens to some overweight people. They're just built that way. endomorphs. American diet doesn't help, too.
No, your absolutely wrong about that. I study dietetics and the reason you cant gain weight is because your metabolism is extremely efficient and your not using the right techniques .

Overweight people are overweight because of a condition called insulin resistance. When your constantly eating foods that trigger insulin, you create a condition where your body doesn't want to accept the insulin with the food you just ate into the cells because you have excessive insulin and your cells have become numb to it. The insulin then transports the food to be stored because the cells wont accept it in to use for energy. Excessive fat storage is due to insulin resistant cells, which is caused by over-eating, snacking between meals, and eating foods high on the Glycemic index. So, no, their not just built that way. Bad habits create bad conditions.
 
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I agree that bbb's comment wasn't disrespectful. It was meant in a good way. However, I disagree with the "choice" thing. I'm skinny as a rail and have been my whole life. I can eat whatever I want and as much as I want and barely gain a pound. It's just the way I was made. I have to assume the same thing happens to some overweight people. They're just built that way. endomorphs. American diet doesn't help, too.
dan
here is a true story
my cousin like you was "skinny as a rail"
his idea of "stuffing" himself was what i considered an appetizer when i was heavy........:eek:
 

Dan White

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No, your absolutely wrong about that. I study dietetics and the reason you cant gain weight is because your metabolism is extremely efficient and your not using the right techniques .
Is it your profession? What do you mean about the bold part?

Also, when you say my metabolism is extremely efficient that implies there are others with extremely inefficient metabolism, which would make losing weight difficult or impossible, no? I was born that way. If it boils down to metabolism it seems to me not everyone is born with the same metabolic rate.

Overweight people are overweight because of a condition called insulin resistance. When your constantly eating foods that trigger insulin, you create a condition where your body doesn't want to accept the insulin with the food you just ate into the cells because you have excessive insulin and your cells have become numb to it. The insulin then transports the food to be stored because the cells wont accept it in to use for energy. Excessive fat storage is due to insulin resistant cells, which is caused by over-eating, snacking between meals, and eating foods high on the Glycemic index. So, no, their not just built that way. Bad habits create bad conditions.
I'm not an expert but that sounds oversimplified to me. It's not just bad habits. What about the fat parents that have a fat 2 year old? Are they really feeding him some kind of high fat baby food? There are accepted body types - ectomorph, mesomorph and endomorphs.

On the other hand, I have to recognize that other cultures have much lower incidents of obesity, and so diet is a large part, but I can't believe it is the whole story.
 
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Dan White

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dan
here is a true story
my cousin like you was "skinny as a rail"
his idea of "stuffing" himself was what i considered an appetizer when i was heavy........:eek:
I'm thin but not petite. I can eat a large amount if I'm really hungry. 24 oz steak, etc, but not typically. I'm not thin because I have a small appetite, if that is what you mean.

I stopped consuming sugar in the form of juices and simple carbs, for the most part, about a year ago. I lost about 3 lbs and two people asked me if I was sick. Made me feel good. :rolleyes:
 
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Are they really feeding him some kind of high fat baby food?
Clean your plate. Here comes the airplane. Better make a happy plate like mommy and daddy. Grandma has little debbie cakes, she made the cookies with love. Skinny kids run around and play, eat like a bird. Overweight kids have to follow the schedule even if not hungry. It's breakfast, it's lunch, it's dinner, the snacks in the cabinet are for snacking.

People didn't used to be fat because they didn't have the kind of crap we have now. They also "played outside." Is it any wonder that if you were to feed a kid heroin they live life as an addict? Food companies know, it's like a casino, the house always wins. Feed the craving.

The main difference in me between when I was 430 lbs and now 250 is just eating when hungry. Not out of boredom. Sweets in moderation. Instead of buying a bag of chocolates and munching on them for a few days, getting cheap candy after Halloween sales, now it's buy a single candy bar and eat 2 bites, maybe have a couple more bites tomorrow or the next day. A bag of chocolate could last me 3 months so I don't buy em.

Food is an enjoyable thing in life, but it's also just food. Take it or leave it. It's like buying a lottery ticket a couple times a year instead of spending a quarter of your check on scratch offs each week.

You have to crucify the fat kid in you and resurrect as your true self. Bury the past, live in the present. It's intimately related to pool in a way, do you make the shot or choke? It's 90% mental. 🙃
 

RailKing85

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Also, when you say my metabolism is extremely efficient that implies there are others with extremely inefficient metabolism, which would make losing weight difficult or impossible, no? I was born that way. If it boils down to metabolism it seems to me not everyone is born with the same metabolic rate.
The same way people gained the way is the same way people will lose it. It's just a matter of reversing the method. i.e... burning more calories than you would consume in a day. And you are correct we are not all born with the same metabolic rate. However when our metabolic rate is functioning normally because of healthy eating habits and lifestyle, we do not put on unnecessary weight. Having a little extra fat is perfectly ok. We play the cards we are dealt bud. Those who are more susceptible to issues should be doing their best to take care and be vigilant about their health.
 

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On the other hand, I have to recognize that other cultures have much lower incidents of obesity, and so diet is a large part, but I can't believe it is the whole story.
It in fact is the whole story my friend. American's in general tend to live a more sedentary lifestyle coupled with high sugar and carb diets. This is the problem.
 

Dan White

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The same way people gained the way is the same way people will lose it. It's just a matter of reversing the method. i.e... burning more calories than you would consume in a day. And you are correct we are not all born with the same metabolic rate. However when our metabolic rate is functioning normally because of healthy eating habits and lifestyle, we do not put on unnecessary weight. Having a little extra fat is perfectly ok. We play the cards we are dealt bud. Those who are more susceptible to issues should be doing their best to take care and be vigilant about their health.
I agree with all that but it is pretty much what I said in the first place -- not everybody can lose weight so easily. You are probably right that weight loss is a choice for many people. You have to consider my perspective, too. I cannot gain weight, period. If I took some drug maybe it would happen, but why would I want to do that. Skinny is good. :)
 

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I'm not that fat but I consider myself fat ok. Ok
 

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RailKing85

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I agree with all that but it is pretty much what I said in the first place -- not everybody can lose weight so easily. You are probably right that weight loss is a choice for many people. You have to consider my perspective, too. I cannot gain weight, period. If I took some drug maybe it would happen, but why would I want to do that. Skinny is good. :)
Find yourself the right nutritionist. You can do it brother. Remember though just because your body doesn't to put on fat doesn't mean its a bad thing. But trust me me it is possible. It would just require more eating than you could probably stomach.
 

Dan White

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Find yourself the right nutritionist. You can do it brother. Remember though just because your body doesn't to put on fat doesn't mean its a bad thing. But trust me me it is possible. It would just require more eating than you could probably stomach.
Thanks. I'm not complaining and I'm too old to now to care. If my body wants to stay thin I'm fine with that.
 
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