manwon said:
The Hustler was certainly the all time classic, but below are how I would rate what I have seen:
The movies are rated by Stars!
1) The Hustler - ****
2) The Color Of Money - ***
3) The Baltimore Bullet - **
4) Super Cue Men - **
5) Pool Hall Junkies - *
6) Chalk - 0 - I think the Movie Sucked, worst of all
time.
7) The Player:
I can't rate this movie, because I have seen it. The Movie was made in 1971 and stared Minissota Fats. It was only shown to my knowledge twice at film festifals. There are no known copies left in existance to my knowledge, if anyone knows where a copy may be please contact me.
Thanks Craig
Man thats a sad statistic. 6 whole movies, one episode of the Twlight Zone, 1 episode of the Honeymooners W/J/Gleason and one episode of the Flint Stones. and some movie thats MIA in a cold film storage lost forever. All this after 80 years-can it really be worse??? Does Hollywood hate us?
Think about that, how weak is that? Freddy in Friday the 13th had 2 times an many moves alone, for the number of people who particapate in pool, bars, home, leagues, tournments, etc we get less than 20 hours screen time in 80 years or 20 hrs/700800 hrs. How bad is that??? If pool wanst everywhere-like darts arnt or pin ball, I could understand. Pool is full of colorful charcters-Bobby Pickle, Keith, Scooter, Melvin Sharp, Hawaiian Jimmy, Shannon, Jay, Hell Me for that matter, we are all part of a sub-culture in America that still exists-I left the scene for 12 or 13 years came back and it was a reunion, people remembered me I forgot about ad vice versa. Its a culture that people are curious about.
I went to the Harvard Club in NYC 4 years ago, they have one table, its for Harvard Graduates a hotel for $50/night instead of $500 becaue the school bought it years ago. I went in there with my $900/hr Lawyer he knew I played so he asked me to play. I had all these fancy very educated squares watching me play, bad cues, etc but they all thought I was world beater. They were so intreagued by the "Dark side" of society and to have me there, they were curiously inimated about me. One guy asked "are you gonna hustle us out of our $$". I smiles and said "there was a time in my life I would have got all the $$ from all of you" He asked how. So I explaine how to stall and keep the fish on the hook, he loved the lingo we players use, I'm not suggesting I'm a player as in pro, but I have paid my dues. These guys wernt stupid at all, the questions kept comming-all of them were very good as these 4-5 men, there kids 12-14 years ols and my lawyer were just amazed, I was their window into our lifes-something they heard about-and the more i told them the more interested they became-we all talked for a hour-i cut the off, I explained that to be a pro you have to live pool, I was honest and told them that I ws a a- player a few years back but not now, they were loving it.
And these Harvard guys are as sharp as they come, and in 80 years we get less than 20 hours, WTF are the studios and producers thinking? another shoot'em up movie like the last one, great "Rush Hour 34 Wild Ride in Vegas". Thats all we get same shit different day, thanks Hollywood. I spoke to Robert Lablank today for 20 minutes-he was the technical advisor to Junkies, He did his best, because a certain actor was hired, the actors influence changed alot of the movie or they wernt gonna get the actor, thats what ruined that movie, everyone was too pissed and confrontational, A half movie/documentarty to let the squares see our world would sell, in telemarketing there have been several movies and they did good and that world is a under world, squares dig that shit, and telemarketing is .0005% as big as pool.
There are missing the boat here bad, 3 good hours and 15 or 18 hours of shit movies in 80 years, OMGWTF whats up with that? a movie will help pool, it might not save it but it cant hurt, Junkies wasnt realistic-Mars changed it to get a actor and it screwed it up, its a uncomfortable movie to watch and dint help pool, Cotton or Lablanc did a great job.
a movie that peers into the derby follow some plaers, woofing etc. done in a way that wasnt a argument like every 2 minutes that makes audiences uncomfortiable would do great, maybe the danny bas. movie w/ jack black will be good, there should be a good pool movie every 5 years, that wouldnt be too many. like there lots of good new movies anyways, i dont need to see a cop and robber movie again. less people are cops and robbers than play pool.
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