Fear of Feel

You rest assure that real CTE is EXACTLY as prescribed......when you speak about more system magic......you can get your keyboard dig in about CTE but you will Never successfully stand up to me in aface to face CTE debate at a table.

Stan Shuffett


You really need to go to a psychiatrist and get some medication. How can anyone run s business that continual stalks and is so defensive.

Every time you type you make your position worse


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I know what you do for aiming. WOW! And you have the nerve to jump on Stan or anybody else? LOL, LOL.

Pat Johnson's Aiming System:


"I initially line up with my stick pointing CB center to ghost ball center, but I've never actually aimed (got to the final alignment) using any method but contact point-to-contact point "feel" learned through practice and memorization (aided by conscious comparison of where I'm pointing my stick)."

You do know the following, correct?

Ghost ball Center - Visual Subjectivity Ghost ball doesn't exist nor the GB center.

Contact point to contact point - OB contact point easy to identify and see - Visual Objectivity.

CB contact point - impossible to see on front of CB, guesswork - Visual Subjectivity

Stick Aiming - what part of stick? Aiming stick to WHAT? - Visual Subjectivity

Feel - more guesswork and last second cue manipulation but absolutely required
to attempt bringing all the previous visual subjectivity together. Visual Subjectivity.

When I first read this confession of yours I thought it was a joke! I then read it two more times and my initial impression was correct...it is a joke! LOL
Pro Snooker Players' Aiming System: Visually Subjective

Pro Snooker Players' reaction to potting challenges from a few AZ enthusiasts and a few of their semi-pro bucket pocket playing friends. "LOL"
 
You really need to go to a psychiatrist and get some medication. How can anyone run s business that continual stalks and is so defensive.

Every time you type you make your position worse


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Business is booming and has been for years!

Stan Shuffett
 
Pro Snooker Players' Aiming System: Visually Subjective

Pro Snooker Players' reaction to potting challenges from a few AZ enthusiasts and a few of their semi-pro bucket pocket playing friends. "LOL"

Sounds to me like PJ should spend a lot more time on Snooker forums schooling them since he has so much in common. He'll be a worldwide omniscient.
 
Everything posted here, even the critical things, aren't always about you, Stan. CTE isn't the only system that claims mystical powers - sorry.

pj
chgo

You have been zeroing in on CTE digs relentlessly at most any given opportunity for the past many years.......

Stan Shuffett
 
Sounds to me like PJ should spend a lot more time on Snooker forums schooling them since he has so much in common. He'll be a worldwide omniscient.
Snooker players are too busy practicing feel and going to the dentist to visit forums.

I don't think any in the know would argue that snooker incentivizes potting, rewards potting and demands higher potting standards than any US pool game does. And the system Patrick recommends is far closer to what they do that you do, so it doesn't merit being laughed off as ridiculous based on itself alone, without any counter argument.

If "Freddy One Blurry Eye Pull Across" said the same thing, it wouldn't make the claim foolish.
 
Snooker players are too busy practicing feel and going to the dentist to visit forums.

I don't think any in the know would argue that snooker incentivizes potting, rewards potting and demands higher potting standards than any US pool game does. And the system Patrick recommends is far closer to what they do that you do, so it doesn't merit being laughed off as ridiculous based on itself alone, without any counter argument.

If "Freddy One Blurry Eye Pull Across" said the same thing, it wouldn't make the claim foolish.

There's one big difference Colin, Patrick isn't even close to being in the same league as the pro Snooker players, American Pro pool players, Stan Shuffett, Landon Shuffett, Stevie Moore, as well as most good amateur players.

It is laughable especially when he goes off belittling systems used by players far superior to him. Maybe he should try using Shane's ferrule aiming system or CJ Wiley's three line aiming system with TOI. Whooops, I forgot...he's already demeaned and belittled CJ and his methods many times on here. CJ Wiley - World Champion
Pat Johnson - Keyboard Cowboy Nobody. Go figure.

I think you've been drinking too much of the PJ Kool-Aid. I might start seeing you on TV as a zombie in Night of the Living Dead.
 
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Patrick isn't even close to being in the same league as the pro Snooker players, American Pro pool players, Stan Shuffett, Landon Shuffett, Stevie Moore, as well as most good amateur players.
That may or may not be true - how would you know?

But I know this (and you apparently don't): if you aim the CB at the same spot on the OB and get different results, you don't actually know where you're aiming the CB.


pj
chgo
 
Snooker players are too busy practicing feel and going to the dentist to visit forums.

I don't think any in the know would argue that snooker incentivizes potting, rewards potting and demands higher potting standards than any US pool game does. And the system Patrick recommends is far closer to what they do that you do, so it doesn't merit being laughed off as ridiculous based on itself alone, without any counter argument.

If "Freddy One Blurry Eye Pull Across" said the same thing, it wouldn't make the claim foolish.

Don't play much 14.1 huh.
 
That may or may not be true - how would you know?

But I know this (and you apparently don't): if you aim the CB at the same spot on the OB and get different results, you don't actually know where you're aiming the CB.


pj
chgo

You mean aiming ccb at the center of the ob? That is the only one that could work at any distance. Everything else is just feel. And feel is not the way to play the game.

If you think you can do what you describe at any cb-ob distance and you still pocket the ob, then you don't know what you are doing. You just play by feel. I don't say this is bad. But there is no "knowledge" there.
 
That may or may not be true - how would you know?

But I know this (and you apparently don't): if you aim the CB at the same spot on the OB and get different results, you don't actually know where you're aiming the CB.


pj
chgo

How would I know that you can't play anywhere close to pro snooker players, American Pro Pool Players, Stan Shuffett, Landon Shuffett, Stevie Moore, or good amateur players?

It certainly isn't because I've seen you doing a video since that would be worse than having a rope around your neck with the trap door ready to be opened. It's because I know a few people who have played with you or seen you play. So everything I said is true.

Now if you think you are a real strong player, you shouldn't have the terror you go through when a video is suggested. And you might consider taking Stan up on a few of his bets to really put him in his place. LOL

As far as where to hit the OB, you make it easy for me because this says it all:

http://scottberkun.com/essays/40-why-smart-people-defend-bad-ideas/

"The problem with smart people is that they like to be right and sometimes will defend ideas to the death rather than admit they’re wrong. This is bad. Worse, if they got away with it when they were young (say, because they were smarter than their parents, their friends, and their parent’s friends) they’ve probably built an ego around being right, and will therefore defend their perfect record of invented righteousness to the death. Smart people often fall into the trap of preferring to be right even if it’s based in delusion, or results in them, or their loved ones, becoming miserable. (Somewhere in your town there is a row of graves at the cemetery, called smartypants lane, filled with people who were buried at poorly attended funerals, whose headstones say “Well, at least I was right.”)
 
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if you aim the CB at the same spot on the OB and get different results, you don't actually know where you're aiming the CB.

pj
chgo
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You mean aiming ccb at the center of the ob? That is the only one that could work at any distance.
This is clearly untrue. I'm interested if you have a specific example.

...feel is not the way to play the game.
It's not the way we'd like to play it, but we don't have a choice. Denying feel is a bandaid, but I guess that's the best some can do.

pj
chgo
 
Honesty. Who'dathunkit?

Originally Posted by SpiderWebComm View Post

How would I know...?

It certainly isn't because I've seen you

pj
chgo

You need to put a new cartridge in your typewriter. It ran out of ink at a crucial part of your post. This is what I thunk and know for a fact.

How would I know that you can't play anywhere close to pro snooker players, American Pro Pool Players, Stan Shuffett, Landon Shuffett, Stevie Moore, or good amateur players?

It certainly isn't because I've seen you doing a video since that would be worse than having a rope around your neck with the trap door ready to be opened. It's because I know a few people who have played with you or seen you play. So everything I said is true.

Now if you think you are a real strong player, you shouldn't have the terror you go through when a video is suggested. And you might consider taking Stan up on a few of his bets to really put him in his place. LOL
 
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Snooker players are too busy practicing feel and going to the dentist to visit forums.

I don't think any in the know would argue that snooker incentivizes potting, rewards potting and demands higher potting standards than any US pool game does. And the system Patrick recommends is far closer to what they do that you do, so it doesn't merit being laughed off as ridiculous based on itself alone, without any counter argument.

If "Freddy One Blurry Eye Pull Across" said the same thing, it wouldn't make the claim foolish.

Colin,

Thanks for the chuckle laugh. Not your last statement...

but the dentist comment.

Later,
Rick
 
There's one big difference Colin, Patrick isn't even close to being in the same league as the pro Snooker players, American Pro pool players, Stan Shuffett, Landon Shuffett, Stevie Moore, as well as most good amateur players.

It is laughable especially when he goes off belittling systems used by players far superior to him. Maybe he should try using Shane's ferrule aiming system or CJ Wiley's three line aiming system with TOI. Whooops, I forgot...he's already demeaned and belittled CJ and his methods many times on here. CJ Wiley - World Champion
Pat Johnson - Keyboard Cowboy Nobody. Go figure.

I think you've been drinking too much of the PJ Kool-Aid. I might start seeing you on TV as a zombie in Night of the Living Dead.


Are you saying that just because you can not do it physically, you can not understand or instruct better than someone who plays better?

Is the best coach the best basketball player?
Golfer?
Swimmer?
Etc.


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A bet to play Stan or anyone does not approve the effectiveness of any system. Common Sense.

Stan played well before his CTE, therefore, his subconscious has years of experiences on the pool table before it. You do not lose those experiences, and You can not tell which experiences he is pulling from.

All you could say is Stan is a better shot, to deduct anything else from it would be like saying the moon is made of cheese


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Are you saying that just because you can not do it physically, you can not understand or instruct better than someone who plays better?

Is the best coach the best basketball player?
Golfer?
Swimmer?
Etc.


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Of the three sports you mentioned, most basketball coaches have either played professionally or been top college players so they have played at the top levels.

There are some ex PGA tour players who played at the highest level and then moved into teaching but the other instructors have professional accreditation and years of serving an internship under a PGA professional.

I don't know about a swimming coach. I would assume they swam quite fast themselves at one time and were on college teams and then professionally.

What is PJ's professional accreditation, professional play record, pro players taught, and total number of pool players instructed who have gone on to be pro players.

How many paid lessons does he do per year? Does he have his own instructional website or created any books and dvds?
 
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