Fear

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I wonder if anyone else has the problem that i am about to confide to Thousands of people around the world. I have a fear that I KNOW kills my game sometimes and when it comes up I hate it..it doesnt rear its head very often but when it does ...its cripling..this is what it is..I shoot pretty damn sporty and i have the ability to run out at any time...but I get scared....can you believe that I get scared to run out..i get worried around the 3rd ball i pocket that im gona run down to the 7 or 8 and lock a ball up that I find my self missing the 3 or 4 on purpose making the other guy run out and hope that he screws up..I hate that i do that..I wish i could develop that killer instinct...blood in the water,,,shark mentality to not worry about missing..and just know without question that im out. Like i said i dont always feel that way..sometimes...i dont care where im left on the table..I have that 1000 yard stare and just know im out..anyone else have this come up.

Quitecoolguy has exposed the one weak link in his chain of armor..heheh
 
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quitecoolguy said:
I wonder if anyone else has the problem that i am about to confide to Thousands of people around the world. I have a fear that I KNOW kills my game sometimes and when it comes up I hate it..it doesnt rear its hear very often but when it does ...it cripling..this is what it is..I shoot pretty damn sporty and i have the ability to run out at any time...but I get scared....can you believe that I get scared to run out..i get worried around the 3rd ball i pocket that im gona run down to the 7 or 8 and lock a ball up that intentally find my self missing the 3 or 4 making the other guy run out and hope that he screws up..I hate that i do that..I wish i could develop that killer instinct...blood in the water,,,shark mentality to not worry about missing..and just know without question that im out. Like i said i dont always feel that way..sometimes...i dont care where im left on the table..I have that 1000 yard stare and just know im out..anyone else have this come up.

Quitecoolguy has exposed the one weak link in his chain of armor..heheh

Well, I think what you have to do once you've put in the practice is:

Tell yourself that the guy you are playing can't beat you. No matter who they are. Keep telling yourself this. You have to be aware of the fear as it rises to the surface and savagely push it back with some thought that connotates winning, i.e., "This guy can't beat me.", "If this guy misses again, he'll pay for it with two games.", "I can completely control a match if I just get a shot."

I think you have to develop, with each and every shot, a total, absolute belief in your game.

When you miss, don't think "Oh God, how did I miss that shot?", think something more along the lines of "Well, it's going to take a little longer to beat him now, is all. Now I'm going to show him I can play perfect the rest of the match."

This requires an absolute committment to shootly every shot perfectly, giving the shot your complete attention, figuring out EXACTLY where you want the cue ball to go, and EXACTLY how you are going to strike the cue ball to get there.

You know how so many athletes have that cocky swagger? I think it is more supreme confidence backed up by skill. You say you have the skill, so you just have to actively nurture the confidence. One thing that always helps is to convince yourself you can beat anyone.

How to do that is something you'll have to figure out, but hopefully I've provided a few helpful hints..

Russ
 
XXL Brother is scared...:D :D :D
No seriously, you are thinking too much. You need to go auto pilot...more muscle memory type playing and quit with the brain impulses. Another factor is if you bet serious amounts of cash...enough that it hurts...you'll develop more of that killer attitiude and refuse to lose. I often remember those damn mind tapes..."you've practiced hard, you've won before, you know all the shots, you are a champion!!!";)
 
I put it in perspective this way...........

I've been a journeyman welder/pipefitter/steel worker for all of my life and have found myself in some very precarious and dangerous situations in the course of my work. I have stood under 60 tons of steel hangin off the end of a crane 50 feet in the air on a steel tower, I've welded on receiver tanks full of ammonia vapor and large ammonia pipes half full of liquid, I've welded holes in gasoline tanks shut.....you get the picture.

Doing things like this give you the sense of confidence to do things with a stick and a ball that a lot of people just can't imagine.

Face your fear....conquer your fear.....and [Soprano voice]fuggetaboutit[/Soprano voice]
 
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I'm going to make a guess and I'm pretty confident that it is a good one. When you can't visualize the complete runout including when and how you are going to break out problems is when doubt(fear as you called it) grabs you and wrecks the confidence needed to run out.

Stand at the table until you see all the way to sinking the last ball before shooting the first shot even if it takes five minutes. You may deviate from the plan along the way but doubt will be gone if you can visualize every bit of your run right through straightening up as the money ball slides in. (You set up for a sitting duck shot on the money ball and you can get away with finishing your stroke and straightening up as it rolls leisurely in!)

Hu


quitecoolguy said:
I wonder if anyone else has the problem that i am about to confide to Thousands of people around the world. I have a fear that I KNOW kills my game sometimes and when it comes up I hate it..it doesnt rear its head very often but when it does ...its cripling..this is what it is..I shoot pretty damn sporty and i have the ability to run out at any time...but I get scared....can you believe that I get scared to run out..i get worried around the 3rd ball i pocket that im gona run down to the 7 or 8 and lock a ball up that I find my self missing the 3 or 4 on purpose making the other guy run out and hope that he screws up..I hate that i do that..I wish i could develop that killer instinct...blood in the water,,,shark mentality to not worry about missing..and just know without question that im out. Like i said i dont always feel that way..sometimes...i dont care where im left on the table..I have that 1000 yard stare and just know im out..anyone else have this come up.

Quitecoolguy has exposed the one weak link in his chain of armor..heheh
 
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I think you can kick it pretty quick, I suggest when you feel this comming on, especialy if it happens while your down on the shot, STOP. Stand up, take a couple deep breaths, examine the table, go through your pre shot routine, and try to visualize the shot. Know what you need to do but do not think about it, just be aware, and trust yourself, once this happens that fear will slip away.

The hard part is trusting that your doing the right thing, once you second quess yourself its over. I personaly wouldnt buy a tape, and have to chant to myself on every shot, but you know it may work, I dont do it, but if it worked...lol

SPINDOKTOR
 
The lessons i took with Scott Lee really have been a blessing..I am getting more and more confident in what i do...I had one the guys who i think is in the top 10 shooters in Richmond tell me he was amazed at what a 2 hour session did for me...he actually sat around on last sunday and watch me play my brother..who aint a bad shot himslef..but I just creamed him...my brother said..."damn..when is that guy coming back to richmond" hehe..I konw its in my head...I know the stronger my games get the more confident i will be..I am steping out of my water hole here in Richmond and looking to play in the Tiger Planet Pool Tour and maybe Shannon the Cannon's tour..i know the level of play that i will face so i wanted to make the commitment to step my game up...Thanks guys for all the advise..this is why i love this forum...I log on just about everyday..it had become part of my daily routine..Take care...

And Kevin I cant wait to meet you in Person..you crack me up
 
Your energy is being channeled in the wrong direction. It's good to feel a bit tense, and to feel the adrenalin rush from the competition. The trick is to channel that energy in a positive direction by using it to help you focus and let your body do what it knows how to do.

My advice--do you play for anything? When nothing is on the line it's all too easy to not push yourself to perform to the level you are capable of, and to let things like the fear you mentioned become a reason to shy away from the competition. When there's something at stake you will develop that killer instinct and learn to fear losing your wallet more than you fear running out.

If you play as well as you say then you should be playing against players who will make you pay for 'intentionally' missing that 3 or 4 ball.
 
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read the book"the inner game of tennis" it uses sports psychology and tennis is the sport but its theory can be applied to any non-team sport it applies to golf, darts, bowling and you guessed it pool

the authors name is timothy w. galloway

it will help you
 
Hutchfish said:
I put it in perspective this way...........

I've been a journeyman welder/pipefitter/steel worker for all of my life and have found myself in some very precarious and dangerous situations in the course of my work. I have stood under 60 tons of steel hangin off the end of a crane 50 feet in the air on a steel tower, I've welded on receiver tanks full of ammonia vapor and large ammonia pipes half full of liquid, I've welded holes in gasoline tanks shut.....you get the picture.

Doing things like this give you the sense of confidence to do things with a stick and a ball that a lot of people just can't imagine.

Face your fear....conquer your fear.....and [Soprano voice]fuggetaboutit[/Soprano voice]

So let me get this straight; What you're suggesting is for people to conquer their fears at the pool table by welding explosives or standing under 60 ton loads held up by a shoestring?:confused: Where do I sign up?

I think the important thing is to have confidence in yourself, because if you don't, nobody else will.
 
I agree with PoolBum. The only way out is the way through. Keep competing!

BTW, I don't know how often you play the ghost, but it's one of the best things I know for developing your flow and building a fearless runout game. There's no passing the baton and hoping your opponent sells out. You've got to get out or die! Betting cheap against the ghost has the additional benefit of developing your ability to runout under pressure.
 
VIProfessor said:
Betting cheap against the ghost has the additional benefit of developing your ability to runout under pressure.

Yes, but that darned ghost is always shooting air barrels ! ;)

I have had the same affliction on occassion. When I start thinking too much about the total game / runout I can have problems with confidence at each shot. My recovery technique is to concentrate on the shot I'm taking, just like I do when practicing. It's the uncertainly about the outcome of the GAME, as opposed to the outcome of the SHOT, that worries me. Saying to myself "it's just a pool shot, one I know and can execute" while ignoring the game works for me most times. This also works for me when I'm down in a set, giving me the peace of mind that allows a comeback.

Dave
 
Most of the time when I have this feeling, it's because I haven't completely visualized the shot/shape. Sure, I know which ball I want shape on, etc, but it's fuzzy, incomplete in my head. I'd say about half of those are situations where I should be playing safe.

My solution: determine/visualize EXACTLY what you're shooting (someone already said this, eh Russ?). Don't get down over the shot until the plan is complete. It's not as easy as it sounds, but work on it and it will get better.

-s
 
Fear is NO problem....... just visualize yourself and your opponent playing in your underwear (tighty whities).;)
 
I had a similar problem. It seems that winning means more to the other guy than to me. For me it’s a sport not my self definition. I found the best way for me is not to play the other guy. I play against myself and the table. Can I do better than I did the last time. There is no tougher competition than that. In a race to 7 can I do better than I did the last time. I can even cheer you on and appreciate your good shots. If I did better than last time and you won -- OK I need more practice and I will be back.

When I was young I won several titles as a diver for our swim team. When others would ask how I did it I did not know. What I later realized is that I never knew the other guy’s score – didn’t care as it was about how well I could dive, not him.

In my thinking all sports that I play are self challenges. Maybe that will help you too. Obviously “sharks” don’t like to play with me as I don’t play for money. To make money I earn a living or play in a tournament – won a few of those too.
 
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I do two things:

1. Don't waste yout time trying to rid yourself of fear. Learn to play your game with (or depite) fear. To do this you need to place yourself regularly in playing situations where you experience that emotion; whether it be for money, or league play, or individual competition of whatever sort; and develop a consistent preshot routine that becomes your center of focus during the shot process and forget about the outcome.

2. I ask myself, "what is there to fear?" No one's going to get hurt. No one's life is in danger. This isn't my livelyhood. How important is this stupid game, I love, relative to my family, my health etc.? So what, if I lose a little money. So what, if I'm embarassed for a moment. Your not really putting anything really significant at risk except pride and ego. Let it it go. You'll be happier and perform better.
 
Gregg said:
So let me get this straight; What you're suggesting is for people to conquer their fears at the pool table by welding explosives or standing under 60 ton loads held up by a shoestring?:confused: Where do I sign up?

My point is that there are some things in life when you should be scared, but playing a rack of pool shouldn't be one of them. If your particular fear is swimming deep water, overcome it and everything else in life you do(including pool) becomes easier.

Gregg said:
I think the important thing is to have confidence in yourself, because if you don't, nobody else will.

Agreed.
 
quitecoolguy said:
I wonder if anyone else has the problem that i am about to confide to Thousands of people around the world. I have a fear that I KNOW kills my game sometimes and when it comes up I hate it..it doesnt rear its head very often but when it does ...its cripling..this is what it is..I shoot pretty damn sporty and i have the ability to run out at any time...but I get scared....can you believe that I get scared to run out..i get worried around the 3rd ball i pocket that im gona run down to the 7 or 8 and lock a ball up that I find my self missing the 3 or 4 on purpose making the other guy run out and hope that he screws up..I hate that i do that..I wish i could develop that killer instinct...blood in the water,,,shark mentality to not worry about missing..and just know without question that im out. Like i said i dont always feel that way..sometimes...i dont care where im left on the table..I have that 1000 yard stare and just know im out..anyone else have this come up.

Quitecoolguy has exposed the one weak link in his chain of armor..heheh
QCG,
It's good that you can admit this very common obstacle. Many players will not admit that it is a chronic problem in their game and hence they are likely to never conquer it.

It is very rare to find players who play most their competition matches without fear. The few that you will see are likely great players. Some may be guys who don't play so well, but just do not care about the result (such people are very rare and normally don't stick with the game).

Anyway, some recommendations to reduce your fear:

Fear comes from doubt. It can be doubt about your ability to perform certain shots, doubt about how you'll deal with losing or winning. The best solution for this aspect is practising a lot and learning what you can and can't do, and becoming more familiar with playing under competitive situations.

The other solution is a difficult one, but a very powerful one. It is to change the nature of the focus of your desire. To change your goals at the table, to goals that you can control. If you can control a goal, then doubt is less likely to creep in, and hence fear does not come into play.

So, instead of having the focused goals of winning, make ball x, don't leave shot on oppnent's ball y, with an emotional attachment to the end result of such shots, you can change your thinking to something like the following.
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Controllable Goals:

1. I will endeavor to study the table and commit to the most appropriate shot.

2. I will endeavor to execute this shot to the best of my ability without letting myself get distracted.

3. I will accept the result of the shot and endeavor to learn from my strengths or weaknesses in execution.

4. I shall admonish myself mentally whenever the focus of my desire turns toward the wish for winning, wishing not to miss a shot, good fortune, bad play by the opponent or any other selfish goals that do not accord with the goals listed above.

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If the goals above can become the focus of your desire, then there is nothing to doubt or to fear, accept the fear of allowing your uncontrollable desires to take over. That is, the fear of yourself (whichis better than having a fear of something external as their is hope of gaining control over it). You will begin to play at or near to the best of your ability, and the results will come by themselves.

Wishing for good results is a kind of mental cancer. It leads to the dread of bad results.

Great players simply believe they will have good results, but this belief stems from past experience which has removed doubt.

Colin
 
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Thanks So much guys...

and a special thank you to colin

Those four points of
Controllable Goals:

1. I will endeavor to study the table and commit to the most appropriate shot.

2. I will endeavor to execute this shot to the best of my ability without letting myself get distracted.

3. I will accept the result of the shot and endeavor to learn from my strengths or weaknesses in execution.

4. I shall admonish myself mentally whenever the focus of my desire turns toward the wish for winning, wishing not to miss a shot, good fortune, bad play by the opponent or any other selfish goals that do not accord with the goals listed above.


I have printed those out on a index card and im am gona take it to work and have it laminated and keep that in my pool case so that i can read it before i play..i was really charged when i read that...I will help me focus on what i can do instead of what i cant.. I have been practicing for the Richmond City Tournament here in Va..this will be my frist big step into the tournament world..I want to play in some major tournaments and see where i stack up against the everyone...thanks guys
 
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