bankoutallday
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Men rob men all the time....don't take it personal...it's all about the cash.
Female players
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Men rob men all the time....don't take it personal...it's all about the cash.
haven't read most posts in this thread but have to say Jean Balukas was the real deal. she played and beat a lot of big time players. Saw Mizerack complain after his loss that the girls should play with the girls, not guys. have to say didn't take it too well
too bad she quit playing, believe even today approaching 60 that she would still be tough to beat. yes she was that good, too many have no idea of her level of play
thanks for pointing out the interview, excellent
but back on topic the ladies ARE playing better these days
would be cool to see anyone of the top ladies trying their hand with the guys. maybe later ...I wouldn't say they rob each other all the time, but certainly enough to make a pool tournament environment extremely uncomfortable. It's just not fun watching that all going down or even worse, being caught in the middle of it.
That's two-bit con low-life stuff.
If Wiki is right, she'll be 54 this coming Friday. Still young enough to compete if she wanted to!
You know you hit on something I have noticed in the last few years but have never made the comment. The women sports interviewers seem to do better interviews than the men sports interviewers in my opinion.
As to the spatial skill difference the only thing I read is this.
Where's the "Like" button?
Lol..............
My wife, everytime she scolds me like a little boy.
Lol..............
You're making a lot of assumptions. We all know Serena and Venus are dominant players, but you state with ultimate conviction that they could play with the best male players, and that's mere assumption. It was a big deal when Billy Jean King played Bobby Riggs, about 2 decades older than she was and had been out of the game for some time. Plus that was just one match. I can't speak for others, but my point in this male vs female thing is not to quibble about whether or not women are as good as men at anything - but more to question why, if such is the case, they aren't playing fulltime against the men without having their own rinky dink leagues to run back to when things get too tough. When you see Serena or Venus play against and dominate men, or even play equal with the men, then you can make your statement with conviction. in the meantrime you're assming what they can do based only on what they've done to their female competition. People who feel as you do should spearhead a move to get rid of all femle leagues so everyone can play on an equal field. I'm all for that. If you're a woman, you're not going to like it though.
TJ
TJ
People forget that Riggs, then 55, also beat the top-ranked woman player in the world, Margaret Court (then 30), 6-2, 6-1, that same year before he played King.
In 1998 Karsten Braasch, then ranked 203rd in the world among men, beat Venus Williams 6-2, and then beat Serena Williams 6-1, after Venus and Serena had claimed that they could beat any man ranked outside the top 200. After the match Braasch said the Williams sisters wouldn't have a chance against any man ranked in the top 500.
What's funny and also sickening is the way people who share your sentiment, and I'm one who does, feel obligated all the time to prove they're not being critical of women, and how we feel we need to make that statement either before or after expressing our own true feelings. I'm sick of it. When I was playing I know I could have beaten most of the women players. Corr and a few others have a safety game that I honestly don't think I could have challenged even at my best. I'm not saying I was anything great, just that I know by watching who I can play with, and I feel the same as you, that I could hang with most of the women, but watching the men I get a feeling like one miss and I'm done. Back when Allison Fisher's only main competition was Jeanette Lee and a few others, she won because she was better than they were, but also because few of the top female players of that time were true run-out players. You could count on them to miss. They have improved. They can get better. Maybe they can play as well as men. Good. Get rid of the woman's league and let's see what happens. And I mean get rid of it, not put it on ice for when times get tough.
TJ
I remember it well. It's just incredible the unsubstantiated comments some people make. The women can play with the men. Of course they can. They can even win now and then. But can they do it consistently? Absolutely not. That's why they have their own leagues. Nothing we say will stop the wishers though. Next thing they'll be telling us Rhonda Rousey can handle the men in her division in the MMA.
TJ
I've coached and instructed more than 50 women over the years.
Here's a few observations I've made:
Women who played other competitive sports (softball, tennis, soccer,etc.) before they picked up a pool cue seemed to learn at a much more accelerated rate than those that hadn't competed earlier in their lives.
Of those that have competed in other sports, their work ethic or time spent at the table such as practicing by themselves or in competition, was usually 5 to 10 times longer than those women who didn't compete in other sports.
Also, they would be much more willing to play against better male players than those that hadn't competed earler in their lives.
Most women I taught had a much better feel than most men for rolling a ball to a specific point as long as it didn't involve multiple rails.
Most of the women I've taught had one glaring thing in common, though. They were very comfortable stunning the cue ball or going one rail for position. It was a rare bird to find a woman who was comfortable or even willing to try driviing a cue ball 2 or more rails for shape. Trying 3 or more rails, I might as well have been barking at the moon.
Out of all the women I coached, I only had two that became comfortable with multi-rail position as part of their regular game.
Maybe it's the spatial thing. Who knows?
Stones
Here's a few observations I've made:
Women who played other competitive sports (softball, tennis, soccer,etc.) before they picked up a pool cue seemed to learn at a much more accelerated rate than those that hadn't competed earlier in their lives.
Of those that have competed in other sports, their work ethic or time spent at the table such as practicing by themselves or in competition, was usually 5 to 10 times longer than those women who didn't compete in other sports.
Also, they would be much more willing to play against better male players than those that hadn't competed earler in their lives.
Most women I taught had a much better feel than most men for rolling a ball to a specific point as long as it didn't involve multiple rails.
Most of the women I've taught had one glaring thing in common, though. They were very comfortable stunning the cue ball or going one rail for position. It was a rare bird to find a woman who was comfortable or even willing to try driviing a cue ball 2 or more rails for shape. Trying 3 or more rails, I might as well have been barking at the moon.
Out of all the women I coached, I only had two that became comfortable with multi-rail position as part of their regular game.
Maybe it's the spatial thing. Who knows?
Stones
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bankoutallday
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You see the Williams sisters just physically dominate these dainty eastern European girls. It's all about their physicality and skill. So often they are just stealing. I think they wouldn't fare as well with 126 MPH serves of the top male players.
Orly???? Granted their age at the time as there is a big difference between 16-17 to 20+ they have no shot vs most of the top men...now granted your comment mentioned the serves only but even then I will disagree as they dont face that speed vs anyone except when they play each other to which they do soso on returns on the bigger serves.
Karsten Braasch vs. the Williams sisters
A fourth event dubbed "Battle of the sexes" took place during the 1998 Australian Open[19] between the 203rd ranked male player Karsten Braasch and the Williams sisters. The match took place on court number 12 in Melbourne Park.[20] First Braasch - who was 30 at the time - took on Venus Williams and beat her 6–2. He also played Serena Williams and won 6–1 after the Williams sisters, who were 17 and 16 at the time, said they could beat any man ranked 200 or worse. [21] Braasch said afterwards, "500 and above, no chance" as he claimed he had played like someone ranked 600 in order to keep the game "fun."[22]
That's right, John. The differences are sociological. The women are not as willing to put up with that crap. I've bitten the bullet over the years and jumped into many local tournaments against the guys. I remember one guy, pretty well known, running around the table like a speed demon, carrying on like an idiot...oh wait.... that's because he was playing on speed. It's just ridiculous to have to play in that kind of environment. I had hoped things would get better in time. But the male ego is hard to crack.
There were hundreds of incidents like that. I remember another local tournament I played where I won a match and the guy I beat came screaming in my face about how he could beat me on his worst day. Seriously? We're supposed to want to endure that to get better?
I've seen fistfights, shootings, pool cues cracked over heads, dirty dealings, stealing, cheating, robbing. All men.
You guys took away a decent environment for us all to enjoy the game together and you have the gall to complain that we can't play?
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Pathetic Shark
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Christ, this one's even better than the last...
What does this have to do with the SKILL of being able to compete on an Equal Level..........The answer is NOTHING......Get off this BS that the men are preventing women from having the ability to compete equally.......So if you want to keep responding to my post, please stay on topic.....
