Filler withdrawn from Reyes cup

Next thing to do for Matchroom is to "have withdrawn" from the Reyes Cup mister Efren Reyes himself :rolleyes: "Regretfully".

In all honesty this inaugural event is all about Efren. The idea of Boyes being the coach for Europe is an insult to the opposing captain IMO.

How cool would it have been to see Efren captain both teams?

To see him select his own match ups!

Watching him trying to out wit himself?

The Master Vs The Master

After all the inaugural year cannot be repeated nor should it. Could have been really special. Very rarely are true legends still alive to see their legacy!

OH WELL! The PR machine obviously didn't see as a viable option.
 
We don’t know that.

Given| the lack of clarity in all these disputes, I am unwilling to blame any entity specifically until or unless I get more information. I prefer to ask questions first,

Most of us merely reflect our biases when we state things we don’t know for certain. I‘ve done that before too.

i am biased in favor of MR generally because of what it has done for the game, but no person or organization is perfect. All have self interests and make mistakes. Sometimes even good people or successful businesses do bad or ill-conceived things.

i am not giving MR pass, though. They have not been entirely forthcoming either.
Get informed before you make bold statement. There is a Podcast where Predator's CEO talked about scheduling conflicts.
 
Get informed before you make bold statement. There is a Podcast where Predator's CEO talked about scheduling conflicts.
You don’t take anything Matchroom says at face value. i am not going to take the Predator CEO as the first and last word on the matter, either.

Aa for bold statements, earlier in the thread you referred to the people at MR as "clowns.’ Seems like a rather emotional statement than an informed one.
 
In all honesty this inaugural event is all about Efren. The idea of Boyes being the coach for Europe is an insult to the opposing captain IMO.

How cool would it have been to see Efren captain both teams?

To see him select his own match ups!

Watching him trying to out wit himself?

The Master Vs The Master

After all the inaugural year cannot be repeated nor should it. Could have been really special. Very rarely are true legends still alive to see their legacy!

OH WELL! The PR machine obviously didn't see as a viable option.
to be a competition both sides need their own captain. to do otherwise would make it even more of nothing but an exhibition.
 
You don’t take anything Matchroom says at face value. i am not going to take the Predator CEO as the first and last word on the matter, either.

Aa for bold statements, earlier in the thread you referred to the people at MR as "clowns.’ Seems like a rather emotional statement than an informed one.
for some reason the guy has a total hard-on for MR. That's clearly his right but i have no clue why. They have pulled pro pool from the ashes. No outfit is going to be perfect. Keeps harping about scheduling but why should they cede choice tour stops/dates to a competing tour? If it can be done and them not lose money/viewer shares they probably would consider it but they are a for-profit co. and $ rules.
 
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Yeah, agree. I wrote in the other thread:

Stands still empty. I know its 11AM there, and 2nd day of the event, but I would have expected more from the Vietnamese fans watching the most famous player of the last 15 years.
I think the empty seats came before the Reyes. Better reason for all the lateral bickering too.
 
You don’t take anything Matchroom says at face value. i am not going to take the Predator CEO as the first and last word on the matter, either.

Aa for bold statements, earlier in the thread you referred to the people at MR as "clowns.’ Seems like a rather emotional statement than an informed one.
The writing could be right on the wall in front of you and you would still spin it in the opposite direction. Get a clue.
 
sum it up if you like. i only caught stonewalling and bla bla not getting into what's said privately between players
Of course you aren’t going to get that in that interview. You can’t expect that. EF gave a lengthy off the cuff interview which most would not give in that context. IMO the nugget that EF gave was that they had a tour and players to protect. That’s where they’re coming from. And were I a player who stood against the WPA/ Asian Federation ban and skipped a big event, I would very much appreciate what MR did and what EF said.
 
It's show time with Emily Frazier and Window's Open on-site at Hanoi Open. "Emily Frazer on Filler, WPA, Hanoi and Reyes Cup."


Even though Emily did not share many details on this debacle. I like how she framed it “ it would not be fair to Joshua to comment without him there”

Could be a way of dodging the question, but I believe that she is sincere when she says she loves Josh and hopes the best for him.

I hate to see the spot Josh was put in, maybe partly due to decisions that he made. It’s possible that he made his statement to stand with the Asian players, and the the sponsor Predator came in and told him he has to play to keep his sponsorship. That would put him in a tough place. I do not like this situation as I am sure no one else does. I truly believe Josh had everyone’s best interests at heart, but got bullied into decisions he did not want to make.
 
The writing could be right on the wall in front of you and you would still spin it in the opposite direction. Get a clue.
No use arguing with groupies. They believe because Matchroom has done good for the sport, which nobody contest, MR can behave like a monopoly and try to overrun everyone. Well it doesn't work that way unless you are truly a monster monopoly. Matchroom is seeing the negative effects in Hanoi, which of course they would argue is not a problem.
 
Not much in the Emily interview.

Standoff with the WPA is the same. No change.

Generalized sympathy expressed for players sitting out Hanoi, but "the show must go on."

Focus is building up the tour so great players can eventually become millionaires. She used darts as an example.

In short, no reason to expect the dispute with the WPA and/or Predator to end anytime soon. MR plans to try to steamroll its opponents is the vibe I got.
 
Nice job by Molina Mike. I guess the answers were expected so no new information. However, we don't ban players we just withdraw them 😆 😆

If you close your eyes all of Emily's words are exactly the same as Barry Hearns. Even in the order the words are said.

Check for yourselves if you don't believe me! 🤣
 
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If you close your eyes all of Emily's words are exactly the same as Barry Hearns. Even in the order the words are said.

Check for yourselves if you don't believe me! 🤣
They are aggressive, you have to give them that. However, it's a dog eat dog world and they are not the monster dog. It truly sucks, but WPA hurt them bad in Hanoi. This is their second major they couldn't fill the field. So some stuff sucks on their side.
 
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