So does MR get a pass for what is essentially a ban? Or are they to be seen in the same negativity as WPA?
Filler withdrawn from Reyes cup
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Lol, a response is not an initial action. Threatening and initiating bans is completely different from having consequences for failing to follow through on your word.
Without consequences, there can be no solidarity.
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i don't think so. especially since he was qualified by points
does an invitational like reyes cup need to be WPA approved?
Filler does not rightfully like the WPA so he will not do their bidding. He did not "withdraw" per the the clowns from Matchroom, he was disqualified. He should be taking a close look at his contract. I would actually love to see MR sued on this, if their actions are not covered in the contract in black and white.
I don’t know, I was thinking more that Filler is being pressured by his sponsors / federations to not play in WNT events. Because I think this ban makes the WNT look bad as filler earned his spot through points.
Interesting that Google Search hasn't updated the edited Matchroom statement about Joshua Filler. Matchroom also removed the word "Regrettably."
I can just see the powers-that-be at Matchroom rubbing their hands together and and snickering at the social media blast by chattering railbirds. Quite cheeky of Matchroom.
I can just see the powers-that-be at Matchroom rubbing their hands together and and snickering at the social media blast by chattering railbirds. Quite cheeky of Matchroom.
Filler isn’t banned from anything. He’s uninvited. It sounds like he can play all the WNT Open events he wants. It makes sense to me given Team Asia has players like Doang Quoc Hoang who is actively banned by the ACBS from playing in WPA events just because he was born in Vietnam. Team Europe is captained by players like Jayson Shaw that will receive a ban after Hanoi. And Josh twice promised to stand in solidarity with the banned Asian players and twice went back on his word. Why would anyone expect his presence at the Reyes Cup would be a welcome addition to what is effectively a celebration of Asian pool.
They should have asked him to withdraw for some of the reasons you stated re: Asia. He never bad mouthed MR so he cannot be held for not "standing up for his words" given that he could have been presented false information at the MR staged meeting and signed the MR prepared document. Hope he sues because he invested money in getting the points.
Given that MR already changed their initial statement shows what knee-jerk clowns HRH Emily and sidekick Karl are.
Josh Filler is one of the best players in our sport. And a great ambassador. While he has a flamboyant way about him at times, most players and viewers respect him.
If anything, he may have made a few premature decisions.
If there is to be any discredit to be passed around it is the professional pool organizers who have made miserable business decisions without care and respect the the great players. Players who have for years tried to eke out a living and giving it their all.
Some folks may want to rethink their premature remarks.
If anything, he may have made a few premature decisions.
If there is to be any discredit to be passed around it is the professional pool organizers who have made miserable business decisions without care and respect the the great players. Players who have for years tried to eke out a living and giving it their all.
Some folks may want to rethink their premature remarks.
Is MR actually banning him from all their events or are they just not including him in the 'invitational' events?
The cyberbullying on social media of Joshua Filler is disgusting, in my opinion. His career as a young professional pool player has been ripped apart by sucker-punching cyber snipers who have no financial interest in professional pool or Joshua Filler. It's just entertainment for most.
You are right, thanks to social media chattering trolls and virtual railbirds, his presence will not be welcome anywhere. They've done a good job of raking him through the coals and kicking a man when he's down. I pray his mental health remains strong. Most pros do have a good self-confidence, and in that regard, I'm hoping he will be okay.
you have a boss and an employee. the pool player is unfortunately the employee.
his options are to:
quit
find another way to play
get better contracts
sue if his was violated
join or create a union of some kind with solidarity
or acquiesce and do what they say as they are your employer basically.
his options are to:
quit
find another way to play
get better contracts
sue if his was violated
join or create a union of some kind with solidarity
or acquiesce and do what they say as they are your employer basically.
You're wrong on so many levels. None of the pros are "employees." None of them get benefits of health and life insurance, sick leave, vacation pay, and retirement. They pay their own taxes, with no help from anyone but themselves. They are independent contractors. Sad but true.
problem is, he qualified. qualification must mean something for the points being worth chasing. that's the entire idea.
i can understand the asians' feelings about filler, as shown in the comment section of just about any pool stream the last month, but it would be better to let him face the music in manila then. that's what these cups are about in a way, feelings..
I'm sorry, but you are really wrong about this. Look up the definition of an employee and independent contractor. Big difference. This is something I am very familiar with. Joshua is most definitely, without a doubt, not an employee. None of the WNT pro players are employees, and as such, they have free will to pick and choose where they will play. If they change their mind, they can do so as they are not an employee. The WNT is not a union, yet people are treating Joshua as if he's a scab of a collective bargaining unit. This "he gave his word" crap is ridiculous. He has free will as an independent contractor, a free agent.