Final from scott/dennis

Cracktherack said:
The way I saw the match, Dennis won with some superb pocketing skills. But, I wonder if the outcome would have been different if the dozen skidding balls that Frost shot had gone in?
I noticed Scott hit the object balls with more speed than Dennis and on those shots even the commentators were saying the ball skidded.
Imagine a dozen times Scott would have continued his run, but instead Dennis was given a golden opportunity to score.
Not counting the 3 end rail banks that rolled in towards the middle of the table that Frost shot, I see a 12 game potential difference. 12 games Frost would have won. That would have set back Dennis's score 12 games to 28 and added Frost's to 40.
Many will probably disagree with me, but I still think Scott Frost is the better player.
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How come then, DO wasn't plagued by the skids? With all the big money road games Frost has pkayed, I'm sure this was not the first time he experienced that. Also the balls were kept in a box between play.

Scott may me one of the most knowledgeable 1-pocket guys around, but he was simply outplayed.
 
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Filipinos play money matches in longer races and often they play into the early morning.

Endurance-wise Dennis had the edge. I wonder what would have happened if it were a shorter match.
 
cardiac kid said:
Hesitate to comment but.... here goes. Neither player played to his maximum ability. Way too many errors on both sides. Got sick of the stream commentators excusing Scott's errors. The missed shots. Missed opportunities. It was the rails, the cloth, the balls, the cue ball, the humidity, his temperment ad nausium. Scott was defeated by another great player playing more consistant pool. Period. JMHO.Lyn
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I agree.
The commentators were like the Scott Frost cheering/apologist section.
It was a pleasure to mute them.
Diliberto (old grouchy himself) and Cardone would've been soooo much better.
 
The one and only thing that never changes in pool no matter where it's played is the balls,cloth,table rolls,pocket size are always the same for both players,pool has always been about adjusting to the equipment being used and the Filipino players seem to be able to do that better than anyone :)

Dennis played a fantastic match his shot making ability was off the charts.
 
terryhanna said:
The one and only thing that never changes in pool no matter where it's played is the balls,cloth,table rolls,pocket size are always the same for both players,pool has always been about adjusting to the equipment being used and the Filipino players seem to be able to do that better than anyone :)

Dennis played a fantastic match his shot making ability was off the charts.
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Wait, it can't really be that simple can it???

Dead right as always terryhanna
 
gxman said:
I got a feeling aramith cant be too happy about soonsoring the match when the commentators did nothing but bash how terrible the balls were.
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Actually only Jeff Carter was ultra negative about the balls iirc. Chris Gentile didn't say much about them.

Chris was a great commentator and I think he analyzed the situation pretty good. He did say that in the end game Scott often got the first opportunity to win the game and dogged it.
 
cardiac kid said:
Hesitate to comment but.... here goes. Neither player played to his maximum ability. Way too many errors on both sides. Got sick of the stream commentators excusing Scott's errors. The missed shots. Missed opportunities. It was the rails, the cloth, the balls, the cue ball, the humidity, his temperment ad nausium. Scott was defeated by another great player playing more consistant pool. Period. JMHO.

Lyn
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If Dennis didn't play to his maximum ability then I don't know who on earth wants to try to fade a higher gear than what he showed. I watched a match where Dennis played about as good as a human can from the hundred hours of one pocket I watched these past couple months.
 
JB Cases said:
If Dennis didn't play to his maximum ability then I don't know who on earth wants to try to fade a higher gear than what he showed. I watched a match where Dennis played about as good as a human can from the hundred hours of one pocket I watched these past couple months.
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John,

The hours I watched were like watching two separate players. Some racks Dennis played flawless. Others he played safeties a rookie would not have played. He allowed Scott to look good from time to time. He had first shot at 7 - 7 several times and dogged it. Having said that, Dennis' play was vastly more consistant than Scott's. Do you really think Dennis was in absolute top form? Anyway, we can discuss this face to face at SBE. You might even coirce me to buy another case!

Lyn
 
i doubt that any one here has ever played good enough to
criticize the play

who wants to play Dennid mow?
none of you guys would play him for $10,000
or scott for that matter

Both guys played great,no one plays perfect


Is there anybody who wi;ll play Dennis now


What kind of weight would John Barton need to play

12 to 6,how wold that work?
I saw some of the best one pocket I ever saw
 
deanoc said:
i doubt that any one here has ever played good enough to
criticize the play

who wants to play Dennid mow?
none of you guys would play him for $10,000
or scott for that matter

Both guys played great,no one plays perfect


Is there anybody who wi;ll play Dennis now


What kind of weight would John Barton need to play

12 to 6,how wold that work?
I saw some of the best one pocket I ever saw
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i like JB @ 12 to 6...he's very slick
 
adam,i like dennis

you have action if they play

i hope all is well with you
its been a long time
dean
 
deanoc said:
i doubt that any one here has ever played good enough to
criticize the play

who wants to play Dennid mow?
none of you guys would play him for $10,000
or scott for that matter

Both guys played great,no one plays perfect


Is there anybody who wi;ll play Dennis now


What kind of weight would John Barton need to play

12 to 6,how wold that work?
I saw some of the best one pocket I ever saw
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I doubt Alex is hiding in the weeds ,, shorten the Race Eren is taking a peak
The key word is some , the best I've seen no I don't think so , I think Scott played his B game throughout the match , he's played much better than he did here a lot of that yes was the pressure DO was putting on him but he missed routine shots time and time again
that's undeniable he had ghosts in his head some form DO some form table rolls and skidding shots , he simply never caught gear
Keep putting big cash out there you'll bring in Shane who was catching on real quick cause at the end of the day Shot making that won this match was pretty basic .


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WHAT?!?!? Basic?! Are you nucking futs?

That little man, errr... Man drained so many long rail banks it blew the tires off his opponent.

And the man made the rest of it look easy. When I run out, it looks hard...not so much for Dennis.

That's why he is rrrrrreal good.
one stroke said:
I doubt Alex is hiding in the weeds ,, shorten the Race Eren is taking a peak
The key word is some , the best I've seen no I don't think so , I think Scott played his B game throughout the match , he's played much better than he did here a lot of that yes was the pressure DO was putting on him but he missed routine shots time and time again
that's undeniable he had ghosts in his head some form DO some form table rolls and skidding shots , he simply never caught gear
Keep putting big cash out there you'll bring in Shane who was catching on real quick cause at the end of the day Shot making that won this match was pretty basic .


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deanoc said:
i doubt that any one here has ever played good enough to
criticize the play
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Dean,

This was supposedly the highest amount ever played for on a live stream. Guess I expected two great one hole players to play at the highest level virtually every rack. Am I asking too much?

Lyn
 
JB Cases said:
Actually only Jeff Carter was ultra negative about the balls iirc. Chris Gentile didn't say much about them.

Chris was a great commentator and I think he analyzed the situation pretty good. He did say that in the end game Scott often got the first opportunity to win the game and dogged it.
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I liked Chris' commentary, he's a great 1 pocket player himself...
 
If you expect more than this from two great players
yes,i think you expect too much

if dennis plays anty american i will have to bet on him


SVB vs Dennis O,i will take Dennis

Am I crazy,i thought it was terrific one pocket


I thought Dennis was at a very high level and scott was a little below him

People don't realize when you play a great player you don't get the opportunities to shine
every safety takes a great amount of skill to navigate

While gentile is a pretty good player,i don't think he can beat either of these 2

It disturbs me to see players criticized so much,the typical no player who couldn't beat either of these two gladiaters 18 to 5 is proud to call one or the other of these a dog for missing shots


What I love about pool is the step up or shut up

ask for a game and put up your dough,if you win you win,if you lose

you deserve the credit of trying


Frankly I would be afraid to match up with either of these two guys
 
deanoc said:
i doubt that any one here has ever played good enough to criticize the play
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Maybe, but being from Indiana, I have watched alot of basketball. While it can be argued that Bird and Magic are not the greatest ball players of all time, they brought the game back from the brink. Like pool, when Larry played his best, they usually won, when Magic couldnt be stopped they were unbeatable.

The folks on this forum couldnt beat either Bird or Magic, but that doesnt mean we dont know what greatness looks like.

IMO, greatness looks like.....

Efren vs Jason Miller at the 2006 DCC onepocket finals.
Secretariat at the Belmont
Pele kicking a soccerball backwards and over his head
Kirk Gibson's game winning home run 1988 World Series

Ken
 
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