Finger Jointed handle area?

nbll01

nbll01

Albrecht Custom Cues
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Heres a production cue(I wont say which kind) I'm installing a leather wrap on. My question is how many of you fellow cue builders have seen this. Is this a real common practice with production cues? It just seemed really odd to me is all and wanted to get some oppinions? yes the cue is warped if thats what you were gonna ask.....Dave

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It's either a Joss or a Viking. Either way, very much a production cue. No custom builder in his right mind would build a cue using that method. And yes, I've seen a few. It's amazing what you can get away with.
 
Mali did that too.
One can tell why that thing warped and it has nothing to do with the joint imo.
 
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I've never used it, but they do use it in all kinds of woodworking, including a company I know of that builds beams & trusses for home building. It does seem like a lot more glueing surface area, than a tenon & hole...JER
 
JoeyInCali said:
Mali did that too.
One can tell why that thing warped and it has nothing to do with the joint imo.
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LOL, could hang ten on those waves.;)

I've seen finger joints in the 3 cues mentioned here so far, but not sure how many other productions have used them.
 
i have some of these off ebay from the same supplier as i got the butt caps in the erlier thread so it looks like they were mali also, in the construction industry we see this joint quite often in doors and kitchen worktops
 
brianna187 said:
they came tom vegh in Cleveland selling parts on ebay there imported cue blanks seconds
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I bought pins off of him and those were of good quality. I seen the finger jointed blanks and thought LOLz.
 
good call lee, i am using them for practice to get used to my hightower as it costs a fortune to import wood into the u.k.
 
The substraight will fail befoe the joint does. That is a very strong joint in woodworking. Think about it. A full splice is a similar joint just longer and less fingers. As long as the glue lines are all glue and not air pockets the wood on both sides of that joint will fail before the joint itself does. I wouldn't recomend it but it is strong. I like a threaded pin in there someplace.
 
I still have several of those blanks around my shop that I never put out. I sold the blanks joined that way several years ago. I heard of very few problems and the ones I did hear of sounded more like customer abuse. Like the cue breaking at the joint. That joint never causes any buzzes like a screw and tenon will occasionally have. It was strong and seemed no more prone to warping than any other normal method. So you might ask why I don't use it in all my cues. Two main reasons are: #1 I like the decorative rings at the wrap joint and butt sleeve. #2 if I can't have rings there I want the butt and forearm woods to match or have full splice points. So mainly it is a looks thing. All the ones I built had exotic woods in the handle area and birdseye in the forearm. There seems to be an overall negative attitude when the finger joint is brought up on here. But I have yet to see any real good reasons it is a bad way to join a cue. I have not done it in many years, but still think it is about as good as most any other method.
 
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cueman said:
I still have several of those blanks around my shop that I never put out. I sold the blanks joined that way several years ago. I heard of very few problems and the ones I did hear of sounded more like customer abuse. Like the cue breaking at the joint. That joint never causes any buzzes like a screw and tenon will occasionally have. It was strong and seemed no more prone to warping than any other normal method. So you might ask why I don't use it in all my cues. Two main reasons are: #1 I like the decorative rings at the wrap joint and butt sleeve. #2 if I can't have rings there I want the butt and forearm woods to match or have full spice points. So mainly it is a looks thing. All the ones I built had exotic woods in the handle area and birdseye in the forearm. There seems to be an overall negative attitude when the finger joint is brought up on here. But I have yet to see any real good reasons it is a bad way to join a cue. I have not done it in many years, but still think it is about as good as most any other method.
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Are those done while they are square Chris?
 
JoeyInCali said:
Are those done while they are square Chris?
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Actually they were finger jointed when the handle was turned mostly round and the forearms turned partly round. They were run through a doweling machine that only rounded the 4 corners off the 1.25" forearms so they could be held in a collet. Then the finger joint cutter was run across through the faces.
 
This is the first time i ever replyed,or wrote anything.But i am a regular reader of the forum. I live 20 min from Tom.I buy some of his stuff. his stuff is not seconds.And a realy nice guy to deal with.IM making two cues with his blanks now and havnt run in to no problemds yet.
 
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