Fixing the game of 9 ball.

Why would I leave? I haven’t been forced into exile for cheating anyone and I haven’t been banned (yet). And this time of the year I think the tides control my emotions more than you possibly could. I’m fishing the King of the Beach this weekend (it’s not a sport btw-although as much as it costs it should be) and then I’m tarpon fishing in Boca Grande 8 days around the first moon of May. (That’s closer to being a sport-it’s freaking exhausting). And the Lightning are in town and playing pretty good so I’m gonna catch a game or two. I’m getting all emotional just thinking about it.

But you need to keep the eye on the prize. Quit wasting time with nobodies like me and stay focused. Do you think Abe Froman became the Sausage King of Chicago by taking days off to argue with nobodies? Of course not! Dammit, this is what happened the last time you tried to save pool! Quit pissing into the wind and get shit done. Guys like me who have absolutely nothing in their lives (except four kids, an overachieving wife, and way too many hobbies, wine and rum) need you to succeed this time. So nose to the grindstone Cobra! This stuff doesn’t happen by itself. You’ve proven that!

Now put me on ignore because you just can’t help yourself. And get to work!
BTW, it been a while, I was told that if you're in the money, maybe the top dog winner, had to take a lie detector,
is this so or was part of the fishing tournaments?
 
Who are YOU again?? A nobody!!!

The funny thing is that you think you are a somebody, based on having skill in maintaining a recreational product while running your business in a discreditable manner and coming up with crackpot ideas. While for all you know the guy you called a nobody towers above you in all the things that really count in life.

Very strange that we have 2 different 'visions' for restructuring pool being talked about on the forum and both use the same insult the consumers marketing technique.
 
The funny thing is that you think you are a somebody, based on having skill in maintaining a recreational product while running your business in a discreditable manner and coming up with crackpot ideas. While for all you know the guy you called a nobody towers above you in all the things that really count in life.

Very strange that we have 2 different 'visions' for restructuring pool being talked about on the forum and both use the same insult the consumers marketing technique.
Almost laughable!!! You don't know shit, but that don't stop you from voicing your opinion, about what you don't know shit about!!
 
To make pool work, you have to have the ability to bring in the non-players/recreational players/weekend warriors.... with an engaging game that not only creates interest, but gives everyone a chance to win.
None of the traditional games does this.
At it's core/to make this hopefully work, it must create new friendships and interaction amongst the players, not just the game itself.
This is why many of us go to the pool room, to engage others and create NEW friendships, it's what life is built upon.
Having a two day weekend event is NOT what this demographic group will endorse, unless it's the end of season Final event.
All events along this line of thinking, must be ONE day events and MUST happen on a Saturday/period.
If it's a two day event, it'll be just pool players.... usually the skill levels tells the avg player..... ''don't waste your money''.
 
The funny thing is that you think you are a somebody, based on having skill in maintaining a recreational product while running your business in a discreditable manner and coming up with crackpot ideas. While for all you know the guy you called a nobody towers above you in all the things that really count in life.

Very strange that we have 2 different 'visions' for restructuring pool being talked about on the forum and both use the same insult the consumers marketing technique.
I know it's hard, but try staying on topic! I am not the topic!
 
When I see recreational players in the pool hall out with their friends to have a good time they are almost always playing 8 ball.

"Fixing" the game of 9 ball isn't going to bring those players into the fold.
 
To make pool work, you have to have the ability to bring in the non-players/recreational players/weekend warriors.... with an engaging game that not only creates interest, but gives everyone a chance to win.
None of the traditional games does this.
At it's core/to make this hopefully work, it must create new friendships and interaction amongst the players, not just the game itself.
This is why many of us go to the pool room, to engage others and create NEW friendships, it's what life is built upon.
Having a two day weekend event is NOT what this demographic group will endorse, unless it's the end of season Final event.
All events along this line of thinking, must be ONE day events and MUST happen on a Saturday/period.
If it's a two day event, it'll be just pool players.... usually the skill levels tells the avg player..... ''don't waste your money''.
And that right there is the explanation as to why the Pros for the most part can't make a living, because they MUST let the amateurs compete, and play for their dead money, and by their rules of play! Pool, played at its highest level is entertainment to the masses around the world who like to watch, but not in America! In America if the amateurs can't get their thrill playing against the Pros, then they complain and complain and threaten NOT to pay their entry fees, because they ALL know, overall....THEY control this sport, because without them in this country, pool is dead.....almost like it is NOW!

There's a time and place for the amateurs to fit in, but its NOT in holding the Pros back, there needs to be a separation!!!!
 
BTW, it been a while, I was told that if you're in the money, maybe the top dog winner, had to take a lie detector,
is this so or was part of the fishing tournaments?
Yes, we took first in the Spanish mackerel division and had to take a lie detector but they only test the division winners. And about 7-8 years ago they also started giving you a W2 with a check instead of paying cash. Took 4th one year and second in the Calcutta. That was a nice payday.
 
I know it's hard, but try staying on topic! I am not the topic!

Calling people nobodies is not the topic either but it doesn't stop you. And yes, you and your lack of credibility, because of your own actions, are very much part of the topic because you are asking people to believe you when there really is no reason for them to do so.
 
And that right there is the explanation as to why the Pros for the most part can't make a living, because they MUST let the amateurs compete, and play for their dead money, and by their rules of play! Pool, played at its highest level is entertainment to the masses around the world who like to watch, but not in America! In America if the amateurs can't get their thrill playing against the Pros, then they complain and complain and threaten NOT to pay their entry fees, because they ALL know, overall....THEY control this sport, because without them in this country, pool is dead.....almost like it is NOW!

There's a time and place for the amateurs to fit in, but its NOT in holding the Pros back, there needs to be a separation!!!!
''there Has to be separation"
 
Calling people nobodies is not the topic either but it doesn't stop you. And yes, you and your lack of credibility, because of your own actions, are very much part of the topic because you are asking people to believe you when there really is no reason for them to do so.
If you don't know what I'm doing, what gives YOU the credibility to question my plans? Is it because I haven't discussed them with you first, hoping to get your approval?
 
If you don't know what I'm doing, what gives YOU the credibility to question my plans? Is it because I haven't discussed them with you first, hoping to get your approval?

I'm not questioning your plans so much as I'm questioning your integrity. And that throws everything you say and do into question. There are 2 sides to every story, but the guy who refuses to tell his side is invariably the guilty party no matter much he tries to ghost the issue and engage in massive gaslighting.
 
I'm not questioning your plans so much as I'm questioning your integrity. And that throws everything you say and do into question. There are 2 sides to every story, but the guy who refuses to tell his side is invariably the guilty party no matter much he tries to ghost the issue and engage in massive gaslighting.
Why would I discuss or answer to a bunch of people that have absolutely nothing to do with my business or life??? Just because you on AZB feel you're ENTITLED to know?
 
I'm not questioning your plans so much as I'm questioning your integrity. And that throws everything you say and do into question. There are 2 sides to every story, but the guy who refuses to tell his side is invariably the guilty party no matter much he tries to ghost the issue and engage in massive gaslighting.
Here come more rationalization and questions as answers .
 
Why would I discuss or answer to a bunch of people that have absolutely nothing to do with my business or life??? Just because you on AZB feel you're ENTITLED to know?
Often a defense attorney will not put the defendant on the stand claiming the prosecution did not prove their case. I would say your situation is just the opposite. It was a big deal on AZ that you should have addressed before moving on to other things.

Look, nobody is perfect. Oftentimes a sincere explanation and apology are all it takes to get forgiveness. I am often surprised by how generous and forgiving people can be, although I am sure I am wasting my time stating this.
 
When I see recreational players in the pool hall out with their friends to have a good time they are almost always playing 8 ball.

"Fixing" the game of 9 ball isn't going to bring those players into the fold.
That’s something I observe but thought it was just Canada. Pool here is almost synonymous with 8 ball. On the AZ forum Pool seems to be almost synonymous with 9 ball.

I play in 3 billiard leagues (pre Covid) and nobody ever mentions 9 ball. I also visit thr UK, France and Germany once a year or so and never played 9 ball there.

9 ball is a fine game but beats me where the future is in it as a pro sport. The world’s best billiard players concentrate on Snooker and Chinese 8 ball...where the money is at. 99% of players in Canada are playing 8 ball...where the fun is at. No idea how 9 ball, virtually unknown by most billiard players, has any future other than as a sideline to other billiard sports.
 
Often a defense attorney will not put the defendant on the stand claiming the prosecution did not prove their case. I would say your situation is just the opposite. It was a big deal on AZ that you should have addressed before moving on to other things.

Look, nobody is perfect. Oftentimes a sincere explanation and apology are all it takes to get forgiveness. I am often surprised by how generous and forgiving people can be, although I am sure I am wasting my time stating this.
You know what? YOU are assuming I did something wrong, and that's your first mistake. Your second is thinking I should have apologized to people that have no idea what has happened, NOR need to know!

I refuse to answer to anyone that has no business sticking their nose into my business or private life!

So, all the AZB members can ASSUME all they want, i don't really care. Tell me something will you, WHY do I owe ANYONE on AZB an apology for ANYTHING?
 
That’s something I observe but thought it was just Canada. Pool here is almost synonymous with 8 ball. On the AZ forum Pool seems to be almost synonymous with 9 ball.

I play in 3 billiard leagues (pre Covid) and nobody ever mentions 9 ball. I also visit thr UK, France and Germany once a year or so and never played 9 ball there.

9 ball is a fine game but beats me where the future is in it as a pro sport. The world’s best billiard players concentrate on Snooker and Chinese 8 ball...where the money is at. 99% of players in Canada are playing 8 ball...where the fun is at. No idea how 9 ball, virtually unknown by most billiard players, has any future other than as a sideline to other billiard sports.
The answer is simple, 9B is an American game, fast paced, played mostly for the purpose of gambling! 8B is more for social playing, and having fun.
 
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