? For Cue Builders only!!
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Ive stopped listening to "players" who want to promote my cues. They are usually just playing games.
I don't mind at all. Some people like a LD shaft, its not a crime. Personally I like a maple shaft. Putting the cue in storage is okay with me a well. They feel its nice enough to have but don't want to play with it all the time or ever. I just like to see someone take care of the cue what ever they chose to do with it. I'ver got a cue back from a customer who decided he did not like the guy he was playing so he used it as a bat. Fixed it, and now its back in for a refinish because he missed a shot and slammed the butt end and broke the Ivory butt cap. I'll fix it every time, but I do wish he took better care of it.
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Second one.
I would not trust ANY custom build shaft, ever.
(SS360 is not a custom shaft for me, for example).
Do be so personal about this.
Cheers,
M
As someone who builds stuff for a living (not cues, by the way) I couldn't agree more. I'm grateful for every sale, and the only thing that would upset me is if the customer wasn't satisfied and happy. Anyhow, no matter what anyone does, I can always build an identical one if it matters that much to me. I'm a pro...there's no luck or magic involved, so there's really no reason to ever get upset.
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Not custom? Sorry, although I now also sell standard spec shafts through Seybert's the largest part of my business is personally making custom SS360 shafts to fit most any cue out there, to most any spec, including for my custom cues.
I hope I don't raise any feathers, but what actually defines a "SS360" shaft?
It is the materials, the length, the taper, the joint, the tip, or a combination thereof?
What is the difference between a stock shaft that Seybert's carries and your "custom" shaft? Can a customer order specs other than a custom-fitted joint and collar?
SS360 definitely Custom
SS360 is a custom built shaft by Bob Danielson, no question of that. He now supplies them to Seyberts.
SS360 is a custom built shaft by Bob Danielson, no question of that. He now supplies them to Seyberts.
Who are they customized to?
Or does the term custom just mean that they are individually crafted? Or that they are unique to that particular shaft?
What exactly does custom mean, in this context?
Custom built and designed by Bob Danielson and yes individually crafted. I don't prescribe to the theory that a cue is only custom, if built to your personal specs.
Shafts for Seybert's come in 10 joint styles/collar combinations as SS360/2 my 2nd gen LD shafts. They also come in 10 joint styles/collar combinations as SS360/P, in this case as 11.75mm which are not 2nd generation.
Customers can order lengths to somewhat over 31",
Ferrule diameters from 13.5mm down to 10.00mm (just finished one at 9.9mm).
Any joint diameter.
A straight for 14" pro taper (not the same as the Seyberts /P) in any diameter down to 10.00mm.
A conical taper down to 10.00mm
Choice of ferrule material/length if other than standard is desired.
Choice of tip of other than standard is desired.
Matching trim rings.
Partials for your favorite cuemaker to finish.
Custom shaft weight (did one at about 11oz with 10.00mm tip).
Most joint threads, don't have the tap for the wavy yet or a couple other odd ones.
And the SS stands for Sweet Spot, has for over 20 years.
I do not match other tapers, my tapers work on my laminated shafts. I can pull the taper back a bit but otherwise it is what it is.
Custom enough?
I personally make all the shafts... from processing boards, cutting triangles, gluing, turning, finishing. I have some help from my g/f while cutting triangles and gluing and have had a couple of helpers over the years but currently no one besides my g/f.
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Thank you for all your information. It sounds like you make something for everyone's needs. I hope to find someone over here who has one that I can try out. I have more cues than I need but a good playing shaft always is nice to add.
I appreciate the clarification, as this is NOT what custom means in other contexts, so it is confusing,
I can accept either option. What drives me crazy is when people abuse and break cues that i worked so hard to build. But, like Dale said, its their cue, let em throw it at the wall if they want. Ill sell em another one later. Lol. I make cues for myself that have shafts made from an OB classic partial that i finish. Im fond of the LD shafts myself.
Joe
Joe