Guys, we all get it. Glen, your peanut butter is the nuts. Mark, you've got the best chocolate in the world. Will you two quit bickering and make a damn Reece's already?
Seriously, it's been old for a while, and you're doing nothing with all of your talent and wisdom but make the rest of the mechanic section look bad. What a waste. You remind me of my kids picking back and forth at each other every time you post. The difference is I can send my kids to separate rooms to punish them for their childish behavior...oh and THEY ARE children. You two are grown men just acting like it.
Look, please realize I like and respect both of you. That's why this stuff frustrates me on a personal level. Mark, I don't know that there's anyone out there that would argue your rail work is the best. Even Glen has said that. I haven't had the privilege of being invited to your shop like some of these other guys, and I've only had a couple conversations with you on the phone, but I have no reason not to respect and admire your work. With your talent, why are you so threatened by Glen and his "minions"? Are you afraid someone will steal your thunder?
I'll tell you the same thing I told Glen on the phone the other day (when my last post on this topic prompted a call). I try to keep in mind that when someone Googles my business, there's a good chance my most recent AZB post will show up pretty high in the results. I try to keep in mind every time I post that a potential customer may read what I'm saying right now. Is this the impression I want to make? Another tidbit from my bag of wisdom and humility....I told myself a long time ago that I never wanted to take the attitude that I don't need the work. I remember where I came from and how hard I worked to get to where I am, and how hard I continue to work to feed my family. I appreciate every dime people choose give to me instead of my competition. Turning away work because you're too good for it is a luxury, but a dangerous one. It allows you to abandon humility and unknowingly turn away other work. Can you both imagine how much $$ you've lost by people who have read your posts and though "Who is this idiot?" and not given you the chance to show them why you can afford to act like that?
Glen, I HAVE had the privilege of working side by side with you and being invited into your home. For those that don't know, Glen is actually a really great dude. The whole "minions" thing pisses me off because I've seen the side of Glen that not many have, and anyone that's worked with the guy is automatically given a bad name just for that. Glen is at heart a very generous person with his knowledge and has helped many people learn tricks to this trade without asking anything in return. Every time we do talk, he asks about my family and how things are going, and genuinely cares. That said, dude, why do you let Mark get under your skin so much? Are YOU threatened by HIM and his knowledge and talents? You're not showing the big teddy bear, you're showing an arrogant ass that has to have the last word.
Look, I don't care if either of you take this to heart or not. You're grown men and will do what you want. I can't sit by any longer without voicing my frustration though. I feel like I know you both well enough to tell you how I feel and hope you see that it's because I want to see positive change. I'm sick of it. Every time I see you two go at it and hijack another thread it makes my blood boil. This section used to be, and still could be a positive thing for our trade. Instead, how many people...customers and mechanics.... have you turned away from our group just because you had to let your ego get the best of you. You couldn't just answer a question without a poke at the other guy, or making some comment to make sure we all know you're the best. WHO CARES!? You know what Don and I would tell people when they say they heard we're the best in this area? "No, we're the second best." You always either get a puzzled look or they ask well who's the best? I tell them "Every other guy out there will tell you they're the best. I just do good work." I'm still learning about this stuff EVERY day, and I know both of you are too. Embrace that and learn from each other and respect the talent and knowledge both of you have. If you put your heads together and leave the egos out of it, you could do a whole hell of a lot for our industry. Please stop choosing instead to continue the downward spiral you've send this mechanic section into.
So if you made it this far, thanks for reading...here's what I propose...either bite your tongue and use some tact for the sake of humility, professional image and our sanity, or keep the bullshit in THIS thread. Keep the others clean and informative and productive. If you can't keep the egos in check, address each other HERE with a link to the thread you're talking about. At the root of it, none of your interactions on here have anything to do with the original question anyway...it all becomes a pissing contest between you two.
That's my honest 2 cents. Thanks for taking the time to read it.
Seriously, it's been old for a while, and you're doing nothing with all of your talent and wisdom but make the rest of the mechanic section look bad. What a waste. You remind me of my kids picking back and forth at each other every time you post. The difference is I can send my kids to separate rooms to punish them for their childish behavior...oh and THEY ARE children. You two are grown men just acting like it.
Look, please realize I like and respect both of you. That's why this stuff frustrates me on a personal level. Mark, I don't know that there's anyone out there that would argue your rail work is the best. Even Glen has said that. I haven't had the privilege of being invited to your shop like some of these other guys, and I've only had a couple conversations with you on the phone, but I have no reason not to respect and admire your work. With your talent, why are you so threatened by Glen and his "minions"? Are you afraid someone will steal your thunder?
I'll tell you the same thing I told Glen on the phone the other day (when my last post on this topic prompted a call). I try to keep in mind that when someone Googles my business, there's a good chance my most recent AZB post will show up pretty high in the results. I try to keep in mind every time I post that a potential customer may read what I'm saying right now. Is this the impression I want to make? Another tidbit from my bag of wisdom and humility....I told myself a long time ago that I never wanted to take the attitude that I don't need the work. I remember where I came from and how hard I worked to get to where I am, and how hard I continue to work to feed my family. I appreciate every dime people choose give to me instead of my competition. Turning away work because you're too good for it is a luxury, but a dangerous one. It allows you to abandon humility and unknowingly turn away other work. Can you both imagine how much $$ you've lost by people who have read your posts and though "Who is this idiot?" and not given you the chance to show them why you can afford to act like that?
Glen, I HAVE had the privilege of working side by side with you and being invited into your home. For those that don't know, Glen is actually a really great dude. The whole "minions" thing pisses me off because I've seen the side of Glen that not many have, and anyone that's worked with the guy is automatically given a bad name just for that. Glen is at heart a very generous person with his knowledge and has helped many people learn tricks to this trade without asking anything in return. Every time we do talk, he asks about my family and how things are going, and genuinely cares. That said, dude, why do you let Mark get under your skin so much? Are YOU threatened by HIM and his knowledge and talents? You're not showing the big teddy bear, you're showing an arrogant ass that has to have the last word.
Look, I don't care if either of you take this to heart or not. You're grown men and will do what you want. I can't sit by any longer without voicing my frustration though. I feel like I know you both well enough to tell you how I feel and hope you see that it's because I want to see positive change. I'm sick of it. Every time I see you two go at it and hijack another thread it makes my blood boil. This section used to be, and still could be a positive thing for our trade. Instead, how many people...customers and mechanics.... have you turned away from our group just because you had to let your ego get the best of you. You couldn't just answer a question without a poke at the other guy, or making some comment to make sure we all know you're the best. WHO CARES!? You know what Don and I would tell people when they say they heard we're the best in this area? "No, we're the second best." You always either get a puzzled look or they ask well who's the best? I tell them "Every other guy out there will tell you they're the best. I just do good work." I'm still learning about this stuff EVERY day, and I know both of you are too. Embrace that and learn from each other and respect the talent and knowledge both of you have. If you put your heads together and leave the egos out of it, you could do a whole hell of a lot for our industry. Please stop choosing instead to continue the downward spiral you've send this mechanic section into.
So if you made it this far, thanks for reading...here's what I propose...either bite your tongue and use some tact for the sake of humility, professional image and our sanity, or keep the bullshit in THIS thread. Keep the others clean and informative and productive. If you can't keep the egos in check, address each other HERE with a link to the thread you're talking about. At the root of it, none of your interactions on here have anything to do with the original question anyway...it all becomes a pissing contest between you two.
That's my honest 2 cents. Thanks for taking the time to read it.
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