For Sale: Unused Unhit Fancy 1990s TAD Cue Feather Inlays

You seldom see ivory-jointed Tads.
Is that because of a moral aversion he had to using it, or because so many of his cues were destined for Japan?

It couldn't be a moral thing as he did use ivory in cues, just not nearly as much as some other makers. It might be out of respect for the Japanese market but strangely enough (or not), most of Tad's big ivory pieces reside in Japan. I can't recall ever seeing an ivory jointed Tad, although I have seen a few with ivory points.

If anyone has a big Tad that they'd like to share pics of, I'd welcome a slight derailment of this thread.

Thanks

Kevin

PS Now that I think of it, junksecret had a "Martin Style" Tad and I can't remember if that flat-faced joint was ivory or not.
 
It couldn't be a moral thing as he did use ivory in cues, just not nearly as much as some other makers. It might be out of respect for the Japanese market but strangely enough (or not), most of Tad's big ivory pieces reside in Japan. I can't recall ever seeing an ivory jointed Tad, although I have seen a few with ivory points.


I don't believe anyone got a specific answer to why Tad Kohara doesn't use ivory other than the reason being because of export. I'm not surprised that the really big TAD cues reside in Japan when the popularity of TAD cues also resides primarily in Japan and Asia.


If anyone has a big Tad that they'd like to share pics of, I'd welcome a slight derailment of this thread.


There is a TAD Kohara cue thread in the Cue Gallery.
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=126944&highlight=kohara

Actual post in that thread for the Ivory TAD.
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showpost.php?p=1880263&postcount=48


PS Now that I think of it, junksecret had a "Martin Style" Tad and I can't remember if that flat-faced joint was ivory or not.

junksecret's "Martin Style" TAD #7, who happens to be the prior owner of the cue, did not have an ivory joint.
 
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I don't believe anyone got a specific answer to why Tad Kohara doesn't use ivory other than the reason being because of export. I'm not surprised that the really big TAD cues reside in Japan when the popularity of TAD cues also resides primarily in Japan and Asia.





There is a TAD Kohara cue thread in the Cue Gallery.
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=126944&highlight=kohara

Actual post in that thread for the Ivory TAD.
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showpost.php?p=1880263&postcount=48




junksecret's "Martin Style" TAD #7, who happens to be the prior owner of the cue, did not have an ivory joint.


Thanks for the pointers. I love the butt work on that ivory Tad.

Thanks again

Kevin
 
24 Hour Notice

This Tad auction ends in 24 hours and at just under $3k, still represents an substantial bargain on a unique stick.

Thanks

Kevin
 
All this talk about morality. I'll tell you what's immoral, that this cue was crafted back in the 90's and is still unused. :rolleyes:

She's a beauty, g'luck w/the sale.
 
It wouldn't be AZ if someone didn't find something to be critical of.

It is a beauty, those feathered inlays are the sh*t.

Thanks for the bid and I still think that Charlie Conlon opening the windows in the Michigan Union in the dead of Winter before the finals of the First Annual Ann Arbor 9 Ball Championship was a shark move.

Thanks again

Kevin

This is too funny. I forgot about this, but was it Carl Conlon? I'm too old to remember details. Good luck with your sale.
 
This is too funny. I forgot about this, but was it Carl Conlon? I'm too old to remember details. Good luck with your sale.

Me too, except:

It was in the Michigan Union in about 1974. Dieckman had invited you to play in the Ann Arbor 9 Ball Tourney. You were "that 3 cushion guy from Detroit". Carl Conlon was a character in his own right, but it was you and Charlie Conlon (no relation) in the final (Charlie had beat me in the semis). Charlie was a hustler type with a a Palmer window cue and one of those Filipino up and down strokes (before we knew and feared the Filipinos). Anyway, dead of Winter in Michigan and you and Charlie in the finals. Charlie decides that his shark move was to claim he was hot and begin to open the windows near the table in order to either freeze you out or rattle you into a confrontation about it. The room was freezing cold. Charlie won. In that area of the Country there were 2 "Baby Faces", Al "Baby Face" Whitlow and Charlie "Baby Face" Conlon. Charlie had hung up his cue at that time and was selling insurance and playing cards, but completely out of stroke he still was good enough to beat all of us (although with you he resorted to a move with those windows).

A lot of cue stuff in that room that day. There was Carl Conlon with his beautiful Helmstetter 3 cushion "wood to wood" straight taper cues that were to revolutionize that game (before Helmstetter decided to change the face of golf and design the Big Bertha) that Carl was introducing to America out of Japan. Kobiyashi and Yoshihara were both using them and were just about to turn the 3-C upside down in the World's Championship by going 1-2 with unheard of inning averages. There was Dieckman, now a renowned cue maker and teacher of many. And there was Steve Titus. Titus invented the cue test machine, "Iron Willie" and became one of the 2 original founders of Predator. And of course there was me, now the world famous eBay (sometimes) cue guy.

I would guess that you and I were in the same room maybe 50 times without knowing each other all those years ago. I used to go to Ray Abrahm's Cushion and Cue to see all the 3-cushion stuff and play some straight pool and traveled up there plenty so a friend of mine could play Palmer Byrd (remember her ? - there's another Palmer window cue). I also spent loads of time in what was then the Capitol Cue Club, later to be known as The Rack. Cornbread referred to me as "College Boy".

Thanks

Kevin
 
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All this talk about morality. I'll tell you what's immoral, that this cue was crafted back in the 90's and is still unused. :rolleyes:

She's a beauty, g'luck w/the sale.

Thanks much. If this sale goes well I might be able to coax a few more rarish Tads out of the closet this one came from.

Thanks again

Kevin
 
Last Bump

This cue is at $3,250 with about an hour and a half to go. Maybe it's played out, or maybe there's a little play left in this auction.

Anyone up for an over/under guess as to the auctions final number?

Thanks

Kevin
 
Me too, except:

It was in the Michigan Union in about 1974. Dieckman had invited you to play in the Ann Arbor 9 Ball Tourney. You were "that 3 cushion guy from Detroit". Carl Conlon was a character in his own right, but it was you and Charlie Conlon (no relation) in the final (Charlie had beat me in the semis). Charlie was a hustler type with a a Palmer window cue and one of those Filipino up and down strokes (before we knew and feared the Filipinos). Anyway, dead of Winter in Michigan and you and Charlie in the finals. Charlie decides that his shark move was to claim he was hot and begin to open the windows near the table in order to either freeze you out or rattle you into a confrontation about it. The room was freezing cold. Charlie won. In that area of the Country there were 2 "Baby Faces", Al "Baby Face" Whitlow and Charlie "Baby Face" Conlon. Charlie had hung up his cue at that time and was selling insurance and playing cards, but completely out of stroke he still was good enough to beat all of us (although with you he resorted to a move with those windows).

A lot of cue stuff in that room that day. There was Carl Conlon with his beautiful Helmstetter 3 cushion "wood to wood" straight taper cues that were to revolutionize that game (before Helmstetter decided to change the face of golf and design the Big Bertha) that Carl was introducing to America out of Japan. Kobiyashi and Yoshihara were both using them and were just about to turn the 3-C upside down in the World's Championship by going 1-2 with unheard of inning averages. There was Dieckman, now a renowned cue maker and teacher of many. And there was Steve Titus. Titus invented the cue test machine, "Iron Willie" and became one of the 2 original founders of Predator. And of course there was me, now the world famous eBay (sometimes) cue guy.

I would guess that you and I were in the same room maybe 50 times without knowing each other all those years ago. I used to go to Ray Abrahm's Cushion and Cue to see all the 3-cushion stuff and play some straight pool and traveled up there plenty so a friend of mine could play Palmer Byrd (remember her ? - there's another Palmer window cue). I also spent loads of time in what was then the Capitol Cue Club, later to be known as The Rack. Cornbread referred to me as "College Boy".

Thanks

Kevin

I love all the details, thanks. I do remember the tourney and the window opening, which did affect my break. I just don't remember if I ever knew the guys name I played in the finals. Dennis Dieckman PM'd me to tell me the difference between the two Conlon/Conlins. They were worlds apart :wink:. That night I took my younger brother to his first concert, we saw David Bowie at Cobo - it was a fantastic day and night! I even defrosted after the 2nd song :).

I certainly remember Palmer Byrd, is she still around that you know of? I remember she wanted someone to practice straight pool with and asked me to play a game to 50. I mostly played 3-cushion and she has never seen me play straight pool, which I rarely did. Well, I beat her like 50-18 and she started crying. I felt horrible and asked her what was wrong - she said she was a professional pool player (straight pool all the time then) and she got beat by someone who rarely plays pool. We were always pool room friends adn I felt bad and always regretted making her feel that way.

Who did you know of the billiard palyer? I'm sure I knew them all.

Kevin, I would love to meet you, again, now that we know each other for real. Where are you living now? I'm in Colorado. If you're in Ann Arbor area, we will be visiting in a couple weeks. Tight schedule but maybe...

Dave
 
Damn, I was at the Shooters final and underbid my max on this one.

Damn.

Damn. I like the medium blue veneers in the buttsleeve trim. I`ve got several Tads with feathers, but none with this color veneer work.

Take care,

Will
 
I love all the details, thanks. I do remember the tourney and the window opening, which did affect my break. I just don't remember if I ever knew the guys name I played in the finals. Dennis Dieckman PM'd me to tell me the difference between the two Conlon/Conlins. They were worlds apart :wink:. That night I took my younger brother to his first concert, we saw David Bowie at Cobo - it was a fantastic day and night! I even defrosted after the 2nd song :).

I certainly remember Palmer Byrd, is she still around that you know of? I remember she wanted someone to practice straight pool with and asked me to play a game to 50. I mostly played 3-cushion and she has never seen me play straight pool, which I rarely did. Well, I beat her like 50-18 and she started crying. I felt horrible and asked her what was wrong - she said she was a professional pool player (straight pool all the time then) and she got beat by someone who rarely plays pool. We were always pool room friends adn I felt bad and always regretted making her feel that way.

Who did you know of the billiard palyer? I'm sure I knew them all.

Kevin, I would love to meet you, again, now that we know each other for real. Where are you living now? I'm in Colorado. If you're in Ann Arbor area, we will be visiting in a couple weeks. Tight schedule but maybe...

Dave

Dave

I saw lots of concerts at Cobo but not Bowie.

That's a funny story about Palmer, she was a sponsored player at Brunswick at the time and booked exhibitions and really wasn't subject to string together 2 racks. The talent pool in womens' pool is certainly much deeper nowadays.

I've been in the Los Angeles area since the late 70s. I split to the Coast to get my head together, man.

Kevin
 
Damn, I was at the Shooters final and underbid my max on this one.

Damn.

Damn. I like the medium blue veneers in the buttsleeve trim. I`ve got several Tads with feathers, but none with this color veneer work.

Take care,

Will

Will

Sorry to hear that, I'm always happy to see you bidding. On to the next. When I saw these feathers I was reminded of that first box cue.

Thanks

Kevin
 
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