Fouette Help
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I think Bob Jewitt has some video somewhere or utilize the search function here at at AZB.I think I am familiar with the shot you may be trying to find info about,I am not sure of the spelling or pronunciation.
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It's just low outside english with a bit of elevation so that deflection gets your tip out of the way in time. At least that's what I've always thought it meant. I guess it doesn't have to be low english, but that's how I've usually shot it. Occasionally, I've used extreme 3:00 or 9:00 with a level cue, almost like an intentional miscue.
Do you play with a low deflection shaft? It seems like that could make the shot harder.
Haha. You have Fouetts Syndrome.
Yeah! Well FK you, this is my table, go play somewhere else A Hole.
I haven't been back to work at the hospital for several months now. Maybe I have
my medical terminology all mixed up.
Yeah! Well FK you, this is my table, go play somewhere else A Hole.
I haven't been back to work at the hospital for several months now. Maybe I have
my medical terminology all mixed up.
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Well, it's been a long time but we used to start things out with a few Plies, with a couple of Grande Plies thrown in, a Frappe, or two, and finish things off with a sweeping Arabesque. It almost always brought the house down. 
P.S. Many of these moves can be used with CTE.
P.S. Many of these moves can be used with CTE.
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Video shows it nicely; i said "low outside" but I that should be low inside. That's going to push the CB away from the OB while your cue tip goes to where the object ball was, which is not where the CB is because it was deflected away!
Extremely low inside english with a level cue. A LONG smooth follow through. Don't hit it too hard or the English won't have an opportunity to take effect (that's the usual mistake). And practice, practice. When you do it right you'll hear a clacking sound.
Bob Jewett DOES have a video but I didn't find it very helpful other than showing that it was possible. It's still not clear if it is a legal hit or not because it may be coming off a part of the ferrule in the process, hence the sound.
Bob Jewett DOES have a video but I didn't find it very helpful other than showing that it was possible. It's still not clear if it is a legal hit or not because it may be coming off a part of the ferrule in the process, hence the sound.
I think you have to judge legality by the action of the cue ball. Does it initially leave the collision at a right angle to the object ball's path?
I find a short follow through helps, but I could be mistaken.
That's a great shot
I don't think I would call Fouette in a hillbilly bar and not expect to fight over the hit though.
I don't think I would call Fouette in a hillbilly bar and not expect to fight over the hit though.
look the beginning of this vid : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLL8P1fe-dc
a stiff shaft makes fouette shots harder to achieve.
a stiff shaft makes fouette shots harder to achieve.
Dear "JMuck,"
The Larousse Dictionary says that FOUET is the French word for "a whip." FOUETTER is "to whip." I guess that FOUETTE is "a little whip," the way MAISONETTE is a little house (MAISON).
The pronunciation is PHOO-ETT with an equal stress on both syllables.
The Larousse Dictionary says that FOUET is the French word for "a whip." FOUETTER is "to whip." I guess that FOUETTE is "a little whip," the way MAISONETTE is a little house (MAISON).
The pronunciation is PHOO-ETT with an equal stress on both syllables.
Dear "Book Collector,"
If playing a fouette stroke in a hillbilly bar and ecountering a protest, simply explain that it is a common stroke in French billiards, like the "piquet." Emphasize above all that is part of the great Gallic tradition of LA BELLE FRANCE. I'm sure that this explanation will satisfy.
If playing a fouette stroke in a hillbilly bar and ecountering a protest, simply explain that it is a common stroke in French billiards, like the "piquet." Emphasize above all that is part of the great Gallic tradition of LA BELLE FRANCE. I'm sure that this explanation will satisfy.
My guess is that rather than coming to an understanding, they will probably call you a British cigarette (which sounds quite similar to those other words) and punch your teeth in.
I think there is an accent on the final e, making it the equivalent of "whipped". It also makes it pronounced. Like masse, which should also be typed with an accent on the e, and is pronounced like mah-say.
Oh, phoo-ee!
I think many artistic billiard players have special flexible shafts for the fouetté shots.
I've posed this before as both a student of linguistics as well as French (many moons ago), but it hasn't grown legs....
In many areas in New England and the UK, possibly because non-rhotic speakers will often pick up the R's left on the table and insert them in odd places (drawring, sawr, idear, gararge)...
I often hear the word pronounced as "mahr say" for massé in the Boston area. In fact, in my head, I hear the word "Marseille" (pronounced mar SAY). Many of you from Boston will now say it out loud and realize that's exactly how you say it: mahr SAY.
Like people say French Fries, Boston Pool, and English on shots, none of these originated in France, Boston, or England respectively.
Etymologically speaking, I only find the french world massé in relation to billiards. I don't ever remember a conjugation of the word in French that included massé (i.e. the verb masser doesn't have anything to do with billiards, vertical motion, spin, etc.)
I've postulated for many years that the word massé is actually a misspelling of Marseille as pronounced in the Boston area or the UK (mahr SAY) possibly because the first people (in the UK?) who saw someone using spin on a cueball may have come from Marseille, France and the term stuck just like we Americans say the term English because undoubtedly the first someone here saw use the magic stuff must have been from a guy with an English accent.
Mingaud was from France, but not Marseille but pretty damned close. It is certain that the initial leather spin practitioners would be from France and that when that art form was introduced to England via exhibition or otherwise, a new English viewer would give the term of that new shot recognition to the one who showed them and the place they were from just like some will call rotation Chicago pool or the 1/15 8-ball as Alabama 8-ball. It's a wonder we don't call side spin "French." But... if it happened to be the guy doing the show was from Marseille... then it all might make sense.
Bob, if you're still reading this... maybe you can have Shamos shut me up on this ? Or, Shamos can add it as a possibility in the history books.
Regards,
Frederic <~~~ the French Way
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