Fractional Aiming - Analysis of Houlian Adjustment Method

Colin Colenso

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As has been discussed from time to time (a euphemism for ad nauseam), fractional aiming systems would appear to require an adjustment method for shots that don't fall exactly into the categories of half-ball hit (center-to-edge) or the other general aim guides.

I'm told that Hal Houle recognises this and recommends the adjustment method diagrammed and described below.

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In this example the pot required is a thinner hit than half ball, lets say 35 degrees.

The black lines represent the Center-to-Edge aim and the resultant undercutting that would result.

The red lines represent the resultant aim after a rightward bridge adjustment and the resultant OB track.

The brown line represents a parallel line to the black line after the bridge adjustment. The player needn't aim along this line, but if he does, he needs to pivot back to the center of the CB before taking the final stroke. The important aspect here is that the bridge needs to shift right in order to cut the object ball further to the right.

Conversely, if undercutting was required, the bridge would need to be adjusted to the left.

Some Pros and Cons of this system / adjustment method.
This system will allow infinite contact points, hence infinite angle possibilities. Therefore it can theoretically aim for any shot.

The amount of adjustment left or right relies on a lot of intuitive adjustment and hence a lot of practice to develop the eye for when and by how much pot angles are thicker or thinner than the basic categories.

Then, the amount of bridge adjustment needs to be determined and this will be affected by the following variables:

1. Distance of CB to OB: (Adjustment Related). The further the CB from the OB, the greater will be the effect of the adjustment compared to the sideways shift in bridge position. eg. If the CB is 6 feet from the OB, it would require about 1/6th the amount of sideways adjustment as for a separation if 1 foot.

2. Distance of CB to OB: (Aim Related). As the CB and OB come closer together, the resultant angle of a Center-to-Edge aim becomes increasingly smaller / fuller than a true half ball hit. For 1 foot of separation it is a few degrees fuller, for smaller distances it thickens the angle so much it is basically unusable.

3. Bridge Length: For a shorter bridge length the amount of sideways adjustment is magnified, hence a smaller adjustment is required. A larger bridge length means a larger sideways adjustment will be required. This may help in fine tuning the adjustments. The cue's pivot point won't have any bearing on this unless you intend to use english.

4. Throw: This aiming system does not take into account the very significant effects of throw according to the amounts of speed and spin. i.e. You might have the shot aimed well for a soft roll shot, but if you hit a power follow shot, the pot will be overcut by about 3 degrees. Conversely, you might aim correctly for a firm follow shot, but if you play a soft stun shot you'll undercut by several degrees.

I think the message is that aiming is a complex art with many variables and no aiming system can provide a pure fix-it-all. At least not one that can't adapt to all the variables.

Colin
 
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From the mysterious hints left in every aiming thread, this seems to be what people are talking about.

How is it that people seem to be claiming that the bridge adjustment is so easy when it clearly requires a lot of variables to take into account?
 
Colin,
Your picture is worth 1K words - thanks. It is what I was thinking.

How far to the right of center (in your picture) that you start at does make a difference as to the cutting angle, but is there a relationship to the point of contact on the OB (line going to the pocket) all be it an inverse one?

Also there is/must be a different offset from center for a 6 inch shot vs. an 8 foot one.
 
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PKM said:
From the mysterious hints left in every aiming thread, this seems to be what people are talking about.

How is it that people seem to be claiming that the bridge adjustment is so easy when it clearly requires a lot of variables to take into account?
Considering, that I have never even seen a CtoE'er offer a good visual geometrical explanation of their systems, let alone go into much detail about the adjustment method/s, I hope people can understand why I am very sceptical about the overall practicality and value of these systems as comprehensive aiming tools.

I bet we can also find a lot of people who were astounded by the improvements they made when they first learned the ghost ball systems or clock type systems too. In fact those systems have certain significant advantages over fractional aiming. They both actually direct the aim to the contact point at the line-through-centers for the angle required.
 
LAMas said:
Colin,
Your picture is worth 1K words - thanks. It is what I was thinking.

How far to the right of center (in your picture) that you start at does make a difference as to the cutting angle, but is there a relationship to the point of contact on the OB (line going to the pocket) all be it an inverse one?

Also there is/must be a different offset from center for a 6 inch shot vs. an 8 foot one.
LAMas,

Given the same length of bridge and the same distance between CB and OB then the rightward bridge adjustment would have a correlation with the OB contact point moving leftward. Though this would not be linear due to the rounded nature of the OB, whether measured in mm leftward or resultant cut angle.

So it is hard to develop an adjusment system such as 1 mm right = 2 degrees more cut. Especially when we also have to take into account the bridge length and the distance between CB and OB as I mentioned above.

That said, many similar shots get repeated over and over, so it is possible for people to guestimate an amount of bridge adjustment for relative accuracy on common shots. They just may wonder why their accuracy declines when the distances, bridge lengths and angles change into less familiar areas.

Colin
 
Colin...there is no bridge hand adjustment. Again, I'm not going to discuss the technical details of the method being taught to me by Stan. That would just be unfair to him.

However, if there is any "magic" to the system it is in the placement of the bridge hand and THAT is why the system produces continuously and properly changing cut angles.

Just to exaggerate to demonstrate a point, intentionally place your bridge hand one inch to the left or right of the line from the center of the CB to the left edge of the OB in your diagram.

Then accomplish the CUE pivot...NOT a bridge hand shift and you will see that the cut angle changes dramatically and incorrectly.

I would strongly urge interested people to arrange instruction from Stan or call Mr. Houle who has been amazingly willing to speak to utter strangers on the phone.

However, the system that Stan teaches is partially his own in some very important respects and in addition, it is FAR better to be taught the system in person vs. over the phone. I know because I have tried both methods.

As I've said, there has been SO much misinformation about the system as A tells B and B tells C and C posts on the forum etc. that getting personalized instruction is WAY the right thing to do.

Regards,
Jim

PS to JoeyA...Your comments EXACTLY conform to my experiences so far. Stan tells me I am now at Stage 2...one more to go. And as I suspect is your experience as well, my 1 rail bank shot success ratio has TRIPLED!

I'm running them in from all over the table and "scaring the hell out of the pockets" every time! (-:

FINALLY.....As I have repeatedly stated, we should all be spending 10 times as much time on issues other than aiming. The greatest players are those who make the fewest "difficult cuts" because their shape games are so advanced.


Regards,
Jim
 
av84fun said:
Colin...there is no bridge hand adjustment.

I have received more than one trusted testimonial that this is the adjustment method taught by Hal Houle.

It may not be what you have learned, but bridge hand adjustments are used. If there are other systems let someone explain them. The person who can will guarantee themselves a spot in Internet billiard fame.


I'm running them in from all over the table and "scaring the hell out of the pockets" every time! (-:

FINALLY.....As I have repeatedly stated, we should all be spending 10 times as much time on issues other than aiming. The greatest players are those who make the fewest "difficult cuts" because their shape games are so advanced.


Regards,
Jim
Ok, so for the first time in your life you are running balls in from all over the table, yet we should all just look away because there is nothing much to see here?

I understand you don't feel you have the right to share Mr. Shuffet's aiming system. Perhaps he's willing to share?

I understand that criticising a method that people have come to hold dear is inflammatory. But in the interest of making better information available to a wider audience, I'm willing to be one of those thorns in the side that continues to question vaguely explained theorems.

Colin
 
Colin Colenso said:
I have received more than one trusted testimonial that this is the adjustment method taught by Hal Houle.

It may not be what you have learned, but bridge hand adjustments are used. If there are other systems let someone explain them. The person who can will guarantee themselves a spot in Internet billiard fame.



Ok, so for the first time in your life you are running balls in from all over the table, yet we should all just look away because there is nothing much to see here?

I understand you don't feel you have the right to share Mr. Shuffet's aiming system. Perhaps he's willing to share?

I understand that criticising a method that people have come to hold dear is inflammatory. But in the interest of making better information available to a wider audience, I'm willing to be one of those thorns in the side that continues to question vaguely explained theorems.

Colin

Colin,

There's no bridge hand adjustment---- don't care who you heard it from. It's bad information.

Dave
 
SpiderWebComm said:
Colin,

There's no bridge hand adjustment---- don't care who you heard it from. It's bad information.

Dave
Dave,

Does any part of the diagram resemble what you are doing?

Colin
 
SpiderWebComm said:
Colin,

There's no bridge hand adjustment---- don't care who you heard it from. It's bad information.

Dave

Agree. I was NOT taught any "adjustment". For some reason, you seen bound and determined to make this harder to understand than it is.
 
Colin Colenso said:
Dave,

Does any part of the diagram resemble what you are doing?

Colin

Based on what I see, yes. It looks like you are lined up correctly but instead of doing anything with the bridge hand, pivot your backhand back to center of the cueball.
Dammit I wish that video of Efren was still available.

I do like the commentary though.
 
Seems like a lot of work to me. I'm glad you put it up but I honestly doubt I'll use it. Just thinking about all the lines makes my head want to explode.
MULLY
 
Pushout said:
Agree. I was NOT taught any "adjustment". For some reason, you seen bound and determined to make this harder to understand than it is.
Several posters to previous threads and others who have communicated with me have explained that adjustments are necessary and it is part of the teaching of Hal Houle himself for the fractional aiming system.

From the non-adjustment crowd, who appear to have different ideas of what they are doing, we hear close to nothing in terms of explanation of what they are doing.

For some reason it can only be explained on a table, or it is the secret property of one of the several inventors of these seemingly magical systems. And this is all we've heard for years.

If people have nothing of substance to contribute, or a reasonable question to ask, perhaps they should just stick to C-to-E fantasy land where all the pots, regardless of spin, speed, angle, bridge length, CB-to-OB distance magically line up, despite all the evidence to the contrary.

Or god forbid, someone have the courage to actually attempt to explain the system as they understand it, instead of mocking attempts to represent it.

Colin
 
Koop said:
Based on what I see, yes. It looks like you are lined up correctly but instead of doing anything with the bridge hand, pivot your backhand back to center of the cueball.
Dammit I wish that video of Efren was still available.

I do like the commentary though.
Thanks Koop,

In the image, the cue position is meant to represent where it would be after the bridge is adjusted a few mm to the right. The red line is where it would be pivoted to by shifting the back hand.

Does that make sense?

btw: I've seen Busta use this method many times, especially when shooting the 9-ball toward the camera. Perhaps some of his videos can be found.

Colin
 
Patrick Johnson said:
What is the brown line pointed at? The true OB contact point? How is that determined?

pj
chgo

The brown line just shows where the cue would be pointed if it were shifted parallel after the rightward bridge adjustment. (It is supposed to go through the center of the cue as drawn).
As some have mentioned, this step can be skipped entirely, by just shifting the bridge and keeping the cue pointed at the center of the CB while doing that.

But shifting parallel might provide a guide to the level of adjustment.

Colin

Edit: Some small changes to the original image. Maybe it will clarify it bit:
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...there is no bridge hand adjustment.
...if there is any "magic" to the system it is in the placement of the bridge hand

"Adjustment" and "placement" must by synonymous here. In order to be able to pivot the cue to center ball the bridge must be "placed" or "adjusted" to the side of the center-to-edge line.

...I'm not going to discuss the technical details of the method

I think that not being able to describe the system in detail may be a reflection of what makes it valuable to you. I don't mean that as a criticism; it's a guess about the unique abilities of the players for whom these "subconscious adjustment" systems work better than other ways.

pj
chgo
 
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Colin Colenso said:
Thanks Koop,

In the image, the cue position is meant to represent where it would be after the bridge is adjusted a few mm to the right. The red line is where it would be pivoted to by shifting the back hand.

Does that make sense?

btw: I've seen Busta use this method many times, especially when shooting the 9-ball toward the camera. Perhaps some of his videos can be found.

Colin

Hey Colin,

Based on what I see, the black line is what your eyes should be looking at, from the center of the CB to the edge of the OB. The tip is placed inside the center of the CB at the same time. This is your basic setup for a thin cut. Once you have it aligned, with your backhand, pivot the tip back to center and you're ready to shoot. A thick cut you place the tip on the opposite side of center and then pivot back.

Regards,
Koop
 
Colin Colenso said:
The brown line just shows where the cue would be pointed if it were shifted parallel after the rightward bridge adjustment.

I was asking how you choose how far left or right to move the bridge. But now I've found this:

The amount of adjustment left or right relies on a lot of intuitive adjustment and hence a lot of practice to develop the eye for when and by how much pot angles are thicker or thinner than the basic categories.

In other words, the bridge adjustment/placement is learned by experience and applied by feel for each different cut angle?

pj
chgo
 
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