Francisco Bustamante stories

[straightline]

Just armchairing it, that was probably the best move.

 

[maha]

good stories not likely. heard similar from a few of the other players about themselves and exactly the same thing and them and such. i also got a few lies to tell.

 

[straightline]

There's that Larry, Earl, [place famous name of your choosing here] bullets whizzing past their ears, case 9 ball shot they made.

 

[patmoran]

I have told this tale before so I will try to keep it short. Bobby had cut a deal to swap eighteen wheeler transmissions and came to me for help. Working in gravel parking lots and with just a floor jack and piece of plywood we were going to pull four transmissions, put two in the other trucks. After two or three days on this project daylight to dark we stopped for a beer on the way home. Bobby and I had banged balls around on pool tables so I went to the pool table to stick some quarters in.

Two guys came up, wanted to play partners eight ball for a beer. Sure, why not. They won the coin flip and one of them broke dry. Bobby ran out from their break, dead cold and with arms that had to be as sore as mine from fighting those diesels with nothing but hand tools, no air or electric help. He ran seven more racks and halfway through the ninth before I got up. When he missed I cleaned up that rack and halfway through the next. When the other guys quit I had gotten up twice and and we had won thirteen games. I hadn't ran a full rack.

We were doing the transmission work dirt cheap. As we walked out the door I said, "Bobby, we have to talk." Two days later we took off on the road. My plan was simple, let Bobby do the heavy lifting and I would take whatever came my way on the side and bat clean-up if we got in partners action. I don't think Bobby strung two racks together in two weeks and I did all of the heavy lifting! So much for my easy money plan.

I have seen video of more strung but the run out from the dry break and seven racks from the break remains the most runs I have seen personally. I don't even know what my high run is. I was gambling and high runs wasn't what gambling was about, maximizing profit was.

Some of the pool stories do sound a lot like racing stories some car owners told. I was the driver involved, the stories sounded mighty good, but they were just fairy tales or highly enhanced at best. I forget the player now, but there was a string of about a dozen break and runs, a full set, in competition on youtube. Most of the stories I lump into the pile, could have happened, probably didn't.

Hu

I apologize for assuming the famous quote of asking to “double the bet” Bustamente made was a known fact. In the early 90s before the internet we read magazines like Billiards digest for our news and our memory of the details may fade, I thought Archer ran twelve, that quote and all details can be found in numerous pool media, one included in a comment below.
Archer running 13 racks is impressive but not jaw dropping let alone Busty running nine racks to CJ’s eight. Like Jay said, in gambling matches you saw some of the best pool ever.
My point is that pool takes more than just pure skill but also a mental approach to reach the highest level. And I believe Francsco and Efren are in a league of their own when it comes to mental toughness.
The Earl versus Efren match, as many of you know, the Color of Money, was for 100 k, winner take all, has been called the greatest pool match of all time. You can watch the match on YouTube.

 

[bbb]

It was just announced that
Busty will be inducted into the onepocket.org Hall Of Fame
this May
During the time frame of the Buffalo’s Onepocket tourney

 

[ShootingArts]

I apologize for assuming the famous quote of asking to “double the bet” Bustamente made was a known fact. In the early 90s before the internet we read magazines like Billiards digest for our news and our memory of the details may fade, I thought Archer ran twelve, that quote and all details can be found in numerous pool media, one included in a comment below.
Archer running 13 racks is impressive but not jaw dropping let alone Busty running nine racks to CJ’s eight. Like Jay said, in gambling matches you saw some of the best pool ever.
My point is that pool takes more than just pure skill but also a mental approach to reach the highest level. And I believe Francsco and Efren are in a league of their own when it comes to mental toughness.
The Earl versus Efren match, as many of you know, the Color of Money, was for 100 k, winner take all, has been called the greatest pool match of all time. You can watch the match on YouTube.

I have played a few tournaments, maybe a dozen or so. Way too much waiting and not enough shooting. When you get past ten or twelve hours in gambling matches you get in another place. You are loose, tired, and playing from a place I never got to in tournament play.

I was a lousy tournament player, didn't like them. I didn't like tournaments, was lousy tournament player. Yep, that is a closed loop! I never entered a big time tournament, won most of the smaller ones I entered, I just hated waiting most of the time to shoot a short match and wait again. I usually found myself on the hot seat and the B side could drag on forever!

Hu

 

[SJpilot]

It was just announced that
Busty will be inducted into the onepocket.org Hall Of Fame
this May
During the time frame of the Buffalo’s Onepocket tourney

Well deserved I'm surprised he wasn't already in. They don't do it at Derby anymore?

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[white1]

I only have one story. Only saw him in person once. Setting front row at job’s a few years ago. Wanted my son to see high level play up close. It was the last year job had a lot of champions play. Sky put like an 8 pack on him-I think the race was to 9 or 11-busty shot twice. Two kick shots. Tough.

 

[Maniac]

Some of the pool stories do sound a lot like racing stories some car owners told.

Hu

They sound a whole lot like many fisherman's stories I have heard. Talk is cheap. I gotta see it to believe it.

 

[ShootingArts]

They sound a whole lot like many fisherman's stories I have heard. Talk is cheap. I gotta see it to believe it.

Yeah, I need to at least know similar stories are true. Tell me anything about Scotty Townsend in life or on a bar table and I would be inclined to believe it. He jumped 120-130 feet into the Mississippi where it was over a mile wide with plenty of witnesses.

On a good day he could run with anybody in the country on a short table and not embarrass himself on a long table. I ran out of money playing him, twice!

Hu

 

[maha]

so many stories are just that stories. some are actually close. so give them that. but almost all that get to be remembered are embellished to some or great extent.

certainly with so many games played it stands to reason mathematically that there would be many long strings of games put together.

 

[BeiberLvr]

I once saw Bustamante offer Chuck Norris the breaks and wild 7, and ol' Charlie said, "No thanks!"

 

[alphadog]

I once saw Bustamante offer Chuck Norris the breaks and wild 7, and ol' Charlie said, "No thanks!"

The other Charlie,Bronson,would have said "post".

 

[straightline]

The other Charlie,Bronson,would have said "post".

WUTT???
Chucky once spotted the Ghost the break!

 

[easy-e]

I have played a few tournaments, maybe a dozen or so. Way too much waiting and not enough shooting. When you get past ten or twelve hours in gambling matches you get in another place. You are loose, tired, and playing from a place I never got to in tournament play.

I was a lousy tournament player, didn't like them. I didn't like tournaments, was lousy tournament player. Yep, that is a closed loop! I never entered a big time tournament, won most of the smaller ones I entered, I just hated waiting most of the time to shoot a short match and wait again. I usually found myself on the hot seat and the B side could drag on forever!

Hu

The two sentences I underlined above contradict each other... Were you lousy, or usually in the hot seat?!

 

[ShootingArts]

The two sentences I underlined above contradict each other... Were you lousy, or usually in the hot seat?!

I generally didn't like tournaments and my record was better in action. Didn't mean I lost many tournaments of the fifty dollar entry or less variety. I usually came up the A side and was letting the ponies run so I spent a lot of time sitting in the hot seat bored.

Hu

 

[Dave714]

CJ Wiley said on a podcast that the only time he was ever intimidated playing pool was against Busty in Chicago for 14 k.
It was a time CJ was riding high and feeling confident with scores against Efren and Mark Tadd who was one of if not the most feared gambler at that time.
CJ said he ran the first eight racks on a tight table, missed and Busty ran nine racks and went on to win the match.
It was only a few years earlier and new in the U.S. when he played Johnny Archer a best of three races to twelve. Archer runs out the first set and Francisco asks him to double the bet. Archer wisely refuses losing the next two sets.
Many pool players and athletes in other sports are at their best when ahead but not so much when the pressures mount when losing. One of the best comebacks ever in any sporting match was Efren rallying from a 106 to 89 deficit against Earl in the race to 120. For two and a half days Earl had his way and you could sense the resignation on the faces of Efren’s supporters. Efren never showed any give up. He got his break working finally and slowly chipped away and won the match. Earl shot well ( while Efren astonishingly missed with ball in hand while ar 117).
Efren and Busty are joined at the hip as pool players. Like twin brothers from different mothers as they say or a 1 and 1a entry in a horse race which would be my ticket. I have no argument against Earl or Buddy being the best ever nine ball player but if they are gambling I got Efren or Busty.
In fact Earl was in the Philippines last year and lost to busty in a race to 90 before playing alcano who he lost to and I believe Kiamco as well.
I would like to hear any stories you may have.
Cheers!

CJ was also getting the 8 ball. When you're constantly giving up weight and then your getting the 8 that can be a little unsettling.

 

[1pocket]

Well deserved I'm surprised he wasn't already in. They don't do it at Derby anymore?

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When the casino moved on land, they renovated so much of that Horseshoe property they lost the room that we had held our HOF dinner in. Then there was Covid. Now there is a side function room but last Derby a streamer was set up there for the week. So we are trying Buffalo's. At Buffalo's this year it will be a free event, which will be nice. Both Bustamante and Pagulayan were actually elected 2021, but the visa problems got in the way. Alex's preference was to wait until Busty could be there in person. Now, ironically, it might be Alex that won't be there in person, lol. Efren will be there, and other peers though...